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Why is everyone so in hurry nowadays?

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Lets see what you can do Brian Page/MarketingDir.

www.bitsharesblocks.com/charts

Check the bottom chart "New Accounts"

Note: This most likely does not consider the exchanges.
loss faster than growing if just 28 new accounts per day. new accounts should more than 300/day will gow . Belowe 300 means we have lost 272 accouns perday.Also means market cap loss more than 1% perday. So just 28/day isn't good news for btser.

28 new accounts a day isn's very good , it should grow faster.


loss faster than growing if just 28 new accounts per day. new accounts should more than 300/day will gow . Belowe 300 means we have lost 272 accouns perday.Also means market cap loss more than 1% perday. So just 28/day isn't good news for btser.

28 new accounts a day isn's very good , it should grow faster.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2014, 06:17:42 am by jckj »

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Investor confidence will rise if we knew 100% that a select few trusted people, e.g. Toast, Daniel and Vikram, have full insight into what is happening behind the scenes and have reviewed it saying in each case "Trust me, it will blow your mind, sit tight everyone!"

The problem as it stands now is that it feels like too much trust is tied directly to Brian, instead of spreading it across several of the most trusted members of BitShares. It is not enough that BM says he trusts Brian - I want to know explicitly that he (and Toast etc.) knows what is happening in detail and vouches for it.

So make a new thread, collect some official reviews in awesome quotes from the BitShares team and investor confidence will resume and the hype can officially begin.  +5%

Our whole team spent yesterday afternoon with the whole marketing team.  Awesome guys.
I consider their success to be a foregone conclusion.  We are so lucky to have them.  Dan and I are super excited.

But actions speak louder than words.  Watch what happens.   :)

This post concerns me... quite a bit.

Line #1 - sounds, like you met them for the first time... no good, considering the 100K salary of their boss, and up to 150K pre-hiring bonus of said team.

Line #2 - The last time I heard BM getting really exited was about the VOTE DAC... well mostly VOTE was trying to kill the main baby ... the main product BTSX... so...

Yet we have documented our relationship with them from Texas through a week with them in St. Maartin to ongoing work with YouTube movies etc.  Come on, you know better.

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Silver coin went from under fifty million to over a billion in weeks from cryptopawns knowing and trembling in anticipation, rising hype surface tension. Listen for silent echos in cryptohallways, whispering: the push cometh..

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« Last Edit: November 07, 2014, 01:03:37 am by CLains »

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Investor confidence will rise if we knew 100% that a select few trusted people, e.g. Toast, Daniel and Vikram, have full insight into what is happening behind the scenes and have reviewed it saying in each case "Trust me, it will blow your mind, sit tight everyone!"

The problem as it stands now is that it feels like too much trust is tied directly to Brian, instead of spreading it across several of the most trusted members of BitShares. It is not enough that BM says he trusts Brian - I want to know explicitly that he (and Toast etc.) knows what is happening in detail and vouches for it.

So make a new thread, collect some official reviews in awesome quotes from the BitShares team and investor confidence will resume and the hype can officially begin.  +5%

Our whole team spent yesterday afternoon with the whole marketing team.  Awesome guys.
I consider their success to be a foregone conclusion.  We are so lucky to have them.  Dan and I are super excited.

But actions speak louder than words.  Watch what happens.   :)

This post concerns me... quite a bit.

Line #1 - sounds, like you met them for the first time... no good, considering the 100K salary of their boss, and up to 150K pre-hiring bonus of said team.

Line #2 - The last time I heard BM getting really exited was about the VOTE DAC... well mostly VOTE was trying to kill the main baby ... the main product BTSX... so...

And let me spill the whole truth while at it:

The other Marketing guy got how much pre-paid bonus?

40% of VOTE which is 40% of 3% of 2.5 Bill BTS, before anybody seeing any results?
30 Mil BTS????

 $450K to $900K and he has not done a thing?


And at the same time the people that actually build the product get crucified (17 page thread, of pure non-sense by the crazies, like crazyBar? ) for getting a meager 3 Mil BTS bonus.... give me a break...

« Last Edit: November 07, 2014, 12:33:57 am by tonyk2 »

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This post concerns me... quite a bit.

Line #1 - sounds, like you met them for the first time... no good, considering.

Line #2 - The last time I heard BM getting really exited was about the VOTE DAC... well mostly VOTE was trying to kill the main baby ... the main product BTSX... so...

Hehe, yeah.

"Hey guys, great news!   We have come up with an entirely new product that will kill bitshares by being better!  And you dont have shares in it yet! 

But dont worry, we will now merge it into BTS, and you'll get this great new idea as well, at a cost of the BTS share price tanking another 50%!  We are super excited about this!"

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Investor confidence will rise if we knew 100% that a select few trusted people, e.g. Toast, Daniel and Vikram, have full insight into what is happening behind the scenes and have reviewed it saying in each case "Trust me, it will blow your mind, sit tight everyone!"

The problem as it stands now is that it feels like too much trust is tied directly to Brian, instead of spreading it across several of the most trusted members of BitShares. It is not enough that BM says he trusts Brian - I want to know explicitly that he (and Toast etc.) knows what is happening in detail and vouches for it.

So make a new thread, collect some official reviews in awesome quotes from the BitShares team and investor confidence will resume and the hype can officially begin.  +5%

Our whole team spent yesterday afternoon with the whole marketing team.  Awesome guys.
I consider their success to be a foregone conclusion.  We are so lucky to have them.  Dan and I are super excited.

But actions speak louder than words.  Watch what happens.   :)

This post concerns me... quite a bit.

Line #1 - sounds, like you met them for the first time... no good, considering the 100K salary of their boss, and up to 150K pre-hiring bonus of said team.

Line #2 - The last time I heard BM getting really exited was about the VOTE DAC... well mostly VOTE was trying to kill the main baby ... the main product BTSX... so...




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Investor confidence will rise if we knew 100% that a select few trusted people, e.g. Toast, Daniel and Vikram, have full insight into what is happening behind the scenes and have reviewed it saying in each case "Trust me, it will blow your mind, sit tight everyone!"

The problem as it stands now is that it feels like too much trust is tied directly to Brian, instead of spreading it across several of the most trusted members of BitShares. It is not enough that BM says he trusts Brian - I want to know explicitly that he (and Toast etc.) knows what is happening in detail and vouches for it.

So make a new thread, collect some official reviews in awesome quotes from the BitShares team and investor confidence will resume and the hype can officially begin.  +5%

Our whole team spent yesterday afternoon with the whole marketing team.  Awesome guys.
I consider their success to be a foregone conclusion.  We are so lucky to have them.  Dan and I are super excited.

But actions speak louder than words.  Watch what happens.   :)
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What Brian is doing is more Strategic partnerships. We need a more tactical side too which I think Methodx is bringing. They can both work together, just requires some coordination as to not overlap or confuse message.

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Investor confidence will rise if we knew 100% that a select few trusted people, e.g. Toast, Daniel and Vikram, have full insight into what is happening behind the scenes and have reviewed it saying in each case "Trust me, it will blow your mind, sit tight everyone!"

The problem as it stands now is that it feels like too much trust is tied directly to Brian, instead of spreading it across several of the most trusted members of BitShares. It is not enough that BM says he trusts Brian - I want to know explicitly that he (and Toast etc.) knows what is happening in detail and vouches for it.

So make a new thread, collect some official reviews in awesome quotes from the BitShares team and investor confidence will resume and the hype can officially begin.  +5%

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28 a day!  That is tremendous given it is near impossible for a new user to register an account.

But on to more important issues.   Not that we need it yet because the product simply is not ready, but in the very near future we are going to need marketing funds.  Advertising, free samples, attending tradeshows, are just some of the hard costs let alone the time of the marketing professionals.  This community has raised big dollars for dev, but not for marketing.  Brian no longer draws a salary from 3I. 

I am a big fan of marketers competing for marketing dollars via delegate positions.  Having said that, it is important to know that marketers generally do not have the skills or desire to learn anything about running a delegate.  To his credit MethodX has gone to the trouble to create a delegate.  Has he been voted in?  Was it a good use of his time?  I don't know.  I would like to.

Is there another way?  Perhaps delegates should campaign on "donating money" to marketing funds?

We are charting new territory here as a decentralized company.  There are many lessons to learn and problems to solve. I am more confident than ever they will be solved and an amazing product with high profits for all of us is within grasp. But if you think you can solve a problem... solve it... but don't complain about poor results if you are unable or unwilling to do better.

I refer you to the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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Hey guys, we were mostly completed with our marketing funnel until we got the news that the entire BitShares brand is being relaunched and a new snapshot taken (today).  There aren't new accounts as a result of our efforts because what we've been working on all these weeks has not been launched yet. It cant be launched without coordinating with the MASSIVE structural change at BitShares currently underway - which includes everything from our product, to our brand to our software.  I'm not going to defend myself, but rather just say we are not sitting around here, we are working on this day in and day out. If the results aren't fast enough for you, I don't know what more to say.  I can assure you, we are moving forward. If you want to contact me directly my email is brian@bitshares.org.


Say nothing...work on the porn payment app and the connections to make it happen!  Now that is a funnel!

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This is one of the biggest game changers announced in marketing IMHO:

"Epic brainstorming session between Marketing and Dev teams"

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Hey guys, we were mostly completed with our marketing funnel until we got the news that the entire BitShares brand is being relaunched and a new snapshot taken (today).  There aren't new accounts as a result of our efforts because what we've been working on all these weeks has not been launched yet. It cant be launched without coordinating with the MASSIVE structural change at BitShares currently underway - which includes everything from our product, to our brand to our software.  I'm not going to defend myself, but rather just say we are not sitting around here, we are working on this day in and day out. If the results aren't fast enough for you, I don't know what more to say.  I can assure you, we are moving forward. If you want to contact me directly my email is brian@bitshares.org.

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Hey guys, we were mostly completed with our marketing funnel until we got the news that the entire BitShares brand is being relaunched and a new snapshot taken (today).  There aren't new accounts as a result of our efforts because what we've been working on all these weeks has not been launched yet. It cant be launched without coordinating with the MASSIVE structural change at BitShares currently underway - which includes everything from our product, to our brand to our software.  I'm not going to defend myself, but rather just say we are not sitting around here, we are working on this day in and day out. If the results aren't fast enough for you, I don't know what more to say.  I can assure you, we are moving forward. If you want to contact me directly my email is brian@bitshares.org.   

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I would say the merger to BTS should wrap up right around the time the first marketing push begins.

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Actually, Adam mentioned the issue before, what brain and other marketing team are doing should be called business developing, not marketing. Marketing is to attract new users.  Sadly, even for business developing, there is no positive result, just some "potential" chances. Marketing are basically being done by volunteers.   

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A new account cannot even register yet without posting and waiting for a faucet payout. That has nothing to do with marketing!

And the thread telling them how to go about that is particularly well hidden  :)

Point taken. Speaking of which, that's another issue that needs addressing. Transferring BTSX into the wallet is nowhere near as easy as it could be.

We'll see.  I hope for brians sake he has something good coming.  The townsfolk are getting restless.

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Im with MeTHoDx points taken but there needs to be maybe a new way to get an ID.  Why cant we just have numbered ids to start with, like numbered accounts 2 to 10 digits long allowing people to just register 2 - 5 or something.


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A new account cannot even register yet without posting and waiting for a faucet payout. That has nothing to do with marketing!

And the thread telling them how to go about that is particularly well hidden  :)

Point taken. Speaking of which, that's another issue that needs addressing. Transferring BTSX into the wallet is nowhere near as easy as it could be.

We'll see.  I hope for brians sake he has something good coming.  The townsfolk are getting restless.

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I so much miss the ignore functionality on this forum...

Mumble and other forums are so much fun that way!  :)
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no, 28 a day..this is not good, this is dangerous.

btsx has been 3 months since launch, and now the time was supposed to be high speed development period. I know some guys with large shares cashed out from the early mid october ( before the discussing and proposal things ). And you see the price is heading back to where it started.... The market is not blind, it will tell you whether your product and marketing is good or not, by showing the supply and demand. The truth is that not many people is demaning. The marketing sucks, let us and 3i face it.

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I agree 28 accounts per day is embarrassingly low. Shareholders are clearly getting very restless and want to see anything at all from the marketing side of Invictus.

We'll see.  I hope for brians sake he has something good coming.  The townsfolk are getting restless.
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I agree 28 accounts per day is embarrassingly low. Shareholders are clearly getting very restless and want to see anything at all from the marketing side of Invictus.

A new account cannot even register yet without posting and waiting for a faucet payout. That has nothing to do with marketing!

And the thread telling them how to go about that is particularly well hidden  :)
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I agree 28 accounts per day is embarrassingly low. Shareholders are clearly getting very restless and want to see anything at all from the marketing side of Invictus.

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Lets see what you can do Brian Page/MarketingDir.

www.bitsharesblocks.com/charts

Check the bottom chart "New Accounts"

Note: This most likely does not consider the exchanges.

28 new accounts a day is very good but it should grow faster.

This is across the bitsharesX qt/platform, not that website.

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Lets see what you can do Brian Page/MarketingDir.

www.bitsharesblocks.com/charts

Check the bottom chart "New Accounts"

Note: This most likely does not consider the exchanges.

28 new accounts a day is very good but it should grow faster.
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Rune:  He is trying to develop the nuclear bomb strategy rather than doing both small missile (small marketing, interviews, etc), and Atomic Bomb Preparation strategy to get us to $10 dollars each.

onceuponatime:  He has no competition, he tells us his strategy or works with us hes fine.  If he private messages on the forum everyone over 100 posts, he will gain many allies.


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He just has to get his act together, cut through this BS PTS deal (Now when I say BS im not voting so its just how it is the PTS Deal), and lets not get not focused on the development as well as preparation of marketing.  Dont worry to much about the missile delivery system of some nuclear weapon.  Just have many missiles and do the development of the Atomic Strategy.

What part of "we're not ready for mass adoption before the next (and hopefully last for a while) hardfork" don't you get GeneralEagleye?

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While I'm also slightly confused why there has been nothing to show for Brians apparent several months of full time work, it's important to note that there simply is not a finished product to sell right now. It would be useless to go after small amounts of users at this time, what we need is a launch pad for when the full product, BTS is ready for mainstream(ish) users to come flooding in. Anyway, the kind of skillset it takes to double 28 new users/day to 52 new users/day is vastly different from the skillset it takes to double 2k new users/day to 4k new users/day, so having someone who is good at the former wouldn't really make much sense.

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He just has to get his act together, cut through this BS PTS deal (Now when I say BS im not voting so its just how it is the PTS Deal), and lets not get not focused on the development as well as preparation of marketing.  Dont worry to much about the missile delivery system of some nuclear weapon.  Just have many missiles and do the development of the Atomic Strategy.


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I don't know what they do behind the screen .but at this moment,really suck.

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Lets see what you can do Brian Page/MarketingDir.

www.bitsharesblocks.com/charts

Check the bottom chart "New Accounts"

Note: This most likely does not consider the exchanges.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2014, 02:13:03 am by eagleeye »