Possible use case: bitUSD backend for centralized exchange

monsterer · October 30, 2014, 09:27:56 AM

Quote from: Princelucky on October 30, 2014, 04:44:29 AM
That's true, but if there are many dependable ways of getting dollars into and out of bitUSD then there would be no single point of failure, that would be the difference. the problem may be better handled by the on-ramp, assuming that there are many.

But equally, there are many exchanges which allow you to buy bitcoins with fiat. No difference.

xh3 · October 30, 2014, 04:44:29 AM

Quote from: monsterer on October 29, 2014, 12:20:04 PM
Quote from: Princelucky on October 29, 2014, 01:14:08 AM
How close are we to having fluid ways in/out of bitUSD?
Is the Bitshares platform ready for such a usage case?
if not how soon?

Then you just moved the problem from the exchange to the on-ramp for bitUSD. The problem is the *banks* - they like to shut things like that down, whether it be exchange or on-ramp.

That's true, but if there are many dependable ways of getting dollars into and out of bitUSD then there would be no single point of failure, that would be the difference. the problem may be better handled by the on-ramp, assuming that there are many.

ticklebiscuit · October 29, 2014, 12:36:46 PM

Quote from: Riverhead on October 29, 2014, 03:10:31 AM
Quote from: luckybit on October 29, 2014, 03:04:15 AM
Quote from: Princelucky on October 29, 2014, 01:14:08 AM
Justcoin is shutting down, citing banking issues. Would it be possible to use the bitUSD as the backend for a centralized exchange? Liberating the exchanges from banks would make it easier to run an exchange by orders of magnitude.
so..

How close are we to having fluid ways in/out of bitUSD?
Is the Bitshares platform ready for such a usage case?
if not how soon?

LOL..US loses world power status cause of corruption stifle innovation! Welcome to mexico!

Proof of Solvency, but a centralized exchange would cost quite a bit of money to set up due to the recent FinCen announcements.

Only in the US.

monsterer · October 29, 2014, 12:20:04 PM

Quote from: Princelucky on October 29, 2014, 01:14:08 AM
How close are we to having fluid ways in/out of bitUSD?
Is the Bitshares platform ready for such a usage case?
if not how soon?

Then you just moved the problem from the exchange to the on-ramp for bitUSD. The problem is the *banks* - they like to shut things like that down, whether it be exchange or on-ramp.

CLains · October 29, 2014, 10:26:52 AM

ATMs wouldn't need to touch banks :P

Another use-case: Immigrants to US/Europe who send money back home. Many taxi drivers, [insert stereotypes here], etc. are diligently sending almost everything they earn back to family and friends, and the services they use rip them off with insane fees.. We have the power to fix this injustice.

Edit: lol, found this post right after writing this,
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10679.msg140658#msg140658

matt608 · October 29, 2014, 09:24:00 AM

Nice idea +5%

xh3 · October 29, 2014, 03:50:20 AM

It wouldn't matter where it was, just so long as it was accessible to anybody. Legally, this exchange would only be trading in crypto-tokens.... Like Cryptsy or coined up.

When bitUSD is ready, it should be used in a scenario like this, It would really help adoption if people were able to see it out there solving actual problems. Generating freedoms. Proving it's metal so to speak.

We just need multiple on/off ramps. that's the trick tho, the capital flow needs to touch the banks somewhere. The instant it does, it generates liabilities for whoever handles it.

Riverhead · October 29, 2014, 03:10:31 AM

Quote from: luckybit on October 29, 2014, 03:04:15 AM
Quote from: Princelucky on October 29, 2014, 01:14:08 AM
Justcoin is shutting down, citing banking issues. Would it be possible to use the bitUSD as the backend for a centralized exchange? Liberating the exchanges from banks would make it easier to run an exchange by orders of magnitude.
so..

How close are we to having fluid ways in/out of bitUSD?
Is the Bitshares platform ready for such a usage case?
if not how soon?

Proof of Solvency, but a centralized exchange would cost quite a bit of money to set up due to the recent FinCen announcements.

Only in the US.

luckybit · October 29, 2014, 03:04:15 AM

Quote from: Princelucky on October 29, 2014, 01:14:08 AM
Justcoin is shutting down, citing banking issues. Would it be possible to use the bitUSD as the backend for a centralized exchange? Liberating the exchanges from banks would make it easier to run an exchange by orders of magnitude.
so..

How close are we to having fluid ways in/out of bitUSD?
Is the Bitshares platform ready for such a usage case?
if not how soon?

Proof of Solvency, but a centralized exchange would cost quite a bit of money to set up due to the recent FinCen announcements.

Pheonike · October 29, 2014, 01:24:56 AM

We should implement ways for transparency. They could scam their users and then try to pin it on bitshares. They would be a good on ramp. Let them deal with kyc and aml.

xh3 · October 29, 2014, 01:14:08 AM

Justcoin is shutting down, citing banking issues. Would it be possible to use the bitUSD as the backend for a centralized exchange? Liberating the exchanges from banks would make it easier to run an exchange by orders of magnitude.
so..

How close are we to having fluid ways in/out of bitUSD?
Is the Bitshares platform ready for such a usage case?
if not how soon?