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Look what someone has figured out...
« on: November 14, 2014, 10:58:37 PM »


http://cointelegraph.com/news/112915/bnp-paribas-research-reveals-5-potential-disruptive-impacts-of-cryptocurrencies

Caught this this quote from the article,

"These initiatives might first appeal those who are already raising money through alternative channels such as crowdfunding. However, we might not be far from the day when a quoted company says that coins (that we could call ‘Bitshares’ to distinguish them from the currency coins) represent shares of its capital."



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Re: Look what someone has figured out...
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2014, 11:11:20 PM »
yes very good article regarding BTS thanks for sharing. ;D

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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2014, 11:16:19 PM »
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represent shares of its capital

On one hand, it's great that they managed to independently arrive at this conclusion themselves.

At the same time, it's disconcerting that Bitshares isn't sufficiently well-known that we weren't identified by name as an example.

Meanwhile other alts (nxt, etherium) do get a mention in the article.

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Re: Look what someone has figured out...
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2014, 12:44:02 AM »
Bitsahres is the best name for what we are doing for exactly this reason.

People who have no idea about what BTS is are instinctively calling this idea 'Bitshares'. 
People are going to then hear about it and search for 'Bitshares' and what will they find?  BTS already doing exactly this thing that they are thinking about.

What are they going to want to do then?  Buy some.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2014, 12:50:41 AM »
Problem is that what we're saying BitShares is is explicitly *not* digital tokens that represent shares in a company. We need some distinct name to call UIA's that actually represent those.
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Re: Look what someone has figured out...
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2014, 12:50:48 AM »
Also:  Yeah, nobody out there has any idea what Bitshares is.   Because the marketing hasnt happened yet.

People got a small taste of what Bitshares was about in August when bitAssets released.  Aside from that they just have no idea.


Even most of the bitshares holders have no idea whats going on, I think!  Thats why they dumped so hard about the 'dilution', because they didnt understand what was happening and were vulnerable to fear and people spreading FUD.


Hopefully when the marketing campaign occurs and we begin to promote a clear message to the world, lots of people out there will start to understand what Bitshares is and get excited about it.
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Re: Look what someone has figured out...
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2014, 12:52:06 AM »
Problem is that what we're saying BitShares is is explicitly *not* digital tokens that represent shares in a company. We need some distinct name to call UIA's that actually represent those.

But BitShares IS digital tokens that represent ownership of equity in the whole system.   Its not exactly the same but it is analogous.

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2014, 12:55:14 AM »
so basically "shh, don't think about it too hard". Fine with me. Know your target audience I guess.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2014, 01:18:03 AM »
As best I can tell, the entire company / DAC metaphor has been abandoned to avoid provoking securities' regulators.

The 'Bitshares' brand/name is the last legacy of that.

We used to try and claim any and all metaphors that could be made to fit in order to communicate the nature of BTS/X.

Now, we go out of our way to disown them.



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Re: Look what someone has figured out...
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2014, 01:25:00 AM »
As best I can tell, the entire company / DAC metaphor has been abandoned to avoid provoking securities' regulators.

The 'Bitshares' brand/name is the last legacy of that.

We used to try and claim any and all metaphors that could be made to fit in order to communicate the nature of BTS/X.

Now, we go out of our way to disown them.

The SEC doesn't care what you call it... Securities... Companies... Corporations.. IPOs.. ICOs... Donations...

A spade is a spade in their eyes, and if their criteria for identifying a security was triggered then it doesn't matter what you call it.
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2014, 01:31:07 AM »
As best I can tell, the entire company / DAC metaphor has been abandoned to avoid provoking securities' regulators.

The 'Bitshares' brand/name is the last legacy of that.

We used to try and claim any and all metaphors that could be made to fit in order to communicate the nature of BTS/X.

Now, we go out of our way to disown them.

The SEC doesn't care what you call it... Securities... Companies... Corporations.. IPOs.. ICOs... Donations...

A spade is a spade in their eyes, and if their criteria for identifying a security was triggered then it doesn't matter what you call it.

Not true.  In fact what you call it is part (but not all) of their criteria.   

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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2014, 01:33:15 AM »
Urg...why does this shit frustrate me so much?  Maybe because the people who pushed us to crypto with their extreme levels of corruption/treason are now plannin to regulate us...and we are all seemingly cool with letting them.
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Re: Look what someone has figured out...
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2014, 01:38:21 AM »
Mostly doesn't matter. 

We get to Number 2 without even mentioning the technology or BitShares theory or anything we love to discuss here.

We are just the world's best crypto savings and checking account.

Once at Number 2, people will be interested because we are Number 2.

We won't stay long at Number 2.  :)

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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2014, 02:10:15 AM »
We won't stay long at Number 2.  :)

I think we will be at #2 for quite a while myself. :)
But its good that Stan feels confident.

Passing bitcoin wont be easy.  And in fact, we dont even need to pass bitcoin to make us all rich.  Just reach a significantly higher percent of bitcoin's market cap than we are at now, while also having bitcoin increase during its next bubble.

(Of course, eventually passing it is an even bigger deal).
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Re: Look what someone has figured out...
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2014, 02:45:13 AM »
Most markets are comprised of a couple of dominate incumbents. Bitshares is nicely distinguished in features from Bitcoin (profitable pos, pegged assets, fast) to make it a great alternative for end-users. Getting to number 2 would be an awesome achievement!

 

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