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Kim DotCom is broke. Bankrupted by legal fees.
« on: November 28, 2014, 03:26:21 AM »

He has sacrificed a lot personally and professionally. His biggest regret is not taking the MPAA/RIAA serious enough. He believed he would be protected by the law.

Can someone contact Kim DotCom? Introduce him to 2.0 technologies including Bitshares? Partnership opportunities?


http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/11/27/2022216/kim-dotcom-says-legal-fight-has-left-him-broke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68-PYA7uuGI#t=218
https://twitter.com/kimdotcom
« Last Edit: November 28, 2014, 03:30:03 AM by luckybit »
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Re: Kim DotCom is broke. Bankrupted by legal fees.
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2014, 04:13:39 AM »
The guy is a blowhard and an unstable businessman with limited respect for the law. Take my advice and don't invite people like Kim into your community. Reach out to Ledar Levinson. Honest and has integrity.

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Re: Kim DotCom is broke. Bankrupted by legal fees.
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2014, 05:05:46 AM »
The guy is a blowhard and an unstable businessman with limited respect for the law. Take my advice and don't invite people like Kim into your community. Reach out to Ledar Levinson. Honest and has integrity.

You have no idea, the guy is a genius. You've been brainwashed dude.
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Re: Kim DotCom is broke. Bankrupted by legal fees.
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2014, 05:12:03 AM »
The guy is a blowhard and an unstable businessman with limited respect for the law. Take my advice and don't invite people like Kim into your community. Reach out to Ledar Levinson. Honest and has integrity.

You have no idea, the guy is a genius. You've been brainwashed dude.

you can find good genius.
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Re: Kim DotCom is broke. Bankrupted by legal fees.
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2014, 08:10:51 AM »
I am also undecided about Kim .. To people that move will look shady ..
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Re: Kim DotCom is broke. Bankrupted by legal fees.
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2014, 09:09:19 AM »
The guy is a blowhard and an unstable businessman with limited respect for the law. Take my advice and don't invite people like Kim into your community.

+1

This is not the first time this guy has gone broke. He's always been walking along the thin line between legal and illegal, and often ended up on the wrong side.
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Re: Kim DotCom is broke. Bankrupted by legal fees.
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2014, 09:33:07 AM »
The guy is a blowhard and an unstable businessman with limited respect for the law. Take my advice and don't invite people like Kim into your community. Reach out to Ledar Levinson. Honest and has integrity.

 +5%

Not best way to building trust if invite people like Kim to BTS ecosystem. IMO
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Re: Kim DotCom is broke. Bankrupted by legal fees.
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2014, 09:42:15 AM »
The guy is a blowhard and an unstable businessman with limited respect for the law. Take my advice and don't invite people like Kim into your community. Reach out to Ledar Levinson. Honest and has integrity.

 +5%

Not best way to building trust if invite people like Kim to BTS ecosystem. IMO

I agree.
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Re: Kim DotCom is broke. Bankrupted by legal fees.
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2014, 12:29:14 PM »
The guy is a blowhard and an unstable businessman with limited respect for the law. Take my advice and don't invite people like Kim into your community.

+1

This is not the first time this guy has gone broke. He's always been walking along the thin line between legal and illegal, and often ended up on the wrong side.
I don't know the guy just wanted to say that many successfully personality's have get several times broke before they succeed...   

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Re: Kim DotCom is broke. Bankrupted by legal fees.
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2014, 12:49:55 PM »
I dont wish anyone to get extradited for copyright infringement, but that guy clearly was playing with fire by making millions off copyright infringement. I remember watching an interview with him, and he called it "innovation".


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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2014, 10:15:48 PM »
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You have no idea, the guy is a genius. You've been brainwashed dude.

Wired had a good writeup of Kim: http://www.wired.com/2012/01/kim-dotcom/. He's a very effective self-promoter and an excellent Call of Duty player, but not a technologist or well respected in any business circle. The man makes his money for better or worse via enabling copyright infringement.

Whether you agree or disagree with existing laws, Bitshares isn't primarily about copyright law. You guys have market pegged assets, decentralized exchange, DAC business models, incumbency value transitions, and stealth addresses. It seems you should be looking for allies in those spheres such as people like Ray Kurzweil or Pieter Hintjins. The latter btw is one of the worlds foremost network engineers and completely philosophically aligned with your movement > http://hintjens.com/blog:36 (His book is free: http://cultureandempire.com/#/).

Allies are easy enough to find, but you have to have vision and proper execution to actually utilize them. You have to say hey in a year we will be here and accomplish this and within three years we'll be there. Then people with like goals will naturally be drawn to your movement.

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Re: Kim DotCom is broke. Bankrupted by legal fees.
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2014, 10:29:44 PM »


Allies are easy enough to find, but you have to have vision and proper execution to actually utilize them. You have to say hey in a year we will be here and accomplish this and within three years we'll be there. Then people with like goals will naturally be drawn to your movement.

I've heard you are a very good marketer in this way. .. perhaps once marketing begins you'll try to get involved again
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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2014, 10:40:34 PM »
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I've heard you are very good marketer in this way. .. perhaps once marketing begins you'll try to get involved again

Carpet, the things that frustrates me most is that Dan has invented a brilliant product with a lot of room to innovate and monetize; however, Invictus is short a chief marketing officer and a chief software architect. They keep saying hey this is when the vision gets realized and then a benchmark is missed, a brand is diluted or changed, or great partnerships are never established.

Counterparty's work with Overstock is a great example. The CEO is philosophically more with Bitshares than any other venture in the space and the platform is far better to deploy Medici than CP. Vennd.io is another platform that should be in the Bitshares ecosystem.

I do understand that people are working hard and I do admire toast, Stan and Bo Shen for their efforts. I've been there and it's tough as hell building something like this. You feel like you're moving in slow mo when the world is racing past you. Also every mistake becomes a rally point where successes are often overlooked or trivialized. This is why it's essentially that you recruit a great team and hold them to strict metrics. Furthermore as an open sourced project, you need to account for the community's contributions, which is why I mentioned Pieter in the prior post. ZMQ is a very well run OSP.

You might also want to try to get Eric Raymond to lend a hand. http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/

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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2014, 11:02:47 PM »
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I've heard you are very good marketer in this way. .. perhaps once marketing begins you'll try to get involved again

Carpet, the things that frustrates me most is that Dan has invented a brilliant product with a lot of room to innovate and monetize; however, Invictus is short a chief marketing officer and a chief software architect. They keep saying hey this is when the vision gets realized and then a benchmark is missed, a brand is diluted or changed, or great partnerships are never established.

Counterparty's work with Overstock is a great example. The CEO is philosophically more with Bitshares than any other venture in the space and the platform is far better to deploy Medici than CP. Vennd.io is another platform that should be in the Bitshares ecosystem.

I do understand that people are working hard and I do admire toast, Stan and Bo Shen for their efforts. I've been there and it's tough as hell building something like this. You feel like you're moving in slow mo when the world is racing past you. Also every mistake becomes a rally point where successes are often overlooked or trivialized. This is why it's essentially that you recruit a great team and hold them to strict metrics. Furthermore as an open sourced project, you need to account for the community's contributions, which is why I mentioned Pieter in the prior post. ZMQ is a very well run OSP.

You might also want to try to get Eric Raymond to lend a hand. http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/

Hmm.. I feel as though your analysis overlooks the many partnerships that have been established in VOTE, the sun microsystems Aus CEO, MethodX.  As for the sharedrops and other business strategy shifts, startups pivot to get closer to the best path, bitshares is no different.

The only thing I was complimenting you on was your ability to rub elbows with high-popularity technologists and journalists.  Don't see why you needed to rant on Dan like that.  I get the sense that you don't want to contribute because of Dan.  However, this is open-source, self-funded, and unstoppable at this point.  From here on, all of us are either helping bring the product to the masses or standing on the sideline.  The choice is yours alone.
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