Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami

[fuzzy]

We'll know him when we see him. True to pattern, he'll remind us that HE started and built BitShares, before someone else compromised it. Name dropping ensues, followed by a mention of Etherum's might. And then an opinion or two on what we should do next, which generally has some really abstract, experimental, no-value-added concept attached to it.

Believe it or not, I like him too.

I have to admit I am harder on him than I like to be.  But I think Donkeypong is generally on point here. 

[donkeypong]

We'll know him when we see him. True to pattern, he'll remind us that HE started and built BitShares, before someone else compromised it. Name dropping ensues, followed by a mention of Etherum's might. And then an opinion or two on what we should do next, which generally has some really abstract, experimental, no-value-added concept attached to it.

Believe it or not, I like him too.

[fuzzy]

Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:

@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long

CH's account has been deleted from this forum. I noticed this several days ago. I like him actually.

why this ? Any news? Pity IMO

Yeah, I was watching when he did. Fuzz noticed he deleted his own account minutes after posting his last.

Don't worry.  Charles is still frequenting the forums.  Just not likely under his name :)

yup guess so also :)

The dude abides, cass, the dude abides.

[cass]

Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:

@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long

CH's account has been deleted from this forum. I noticed this several days ago. I like him actually.

why this ? Any news? Pity IMO

Yeah, I was watching when he did. Fuzz noticed he deleted his own account minutes after posting his last.

Don't worry.  Charles is still frequenting the forums.  Just not likely under his name :)

yup guess so also :)

[fuzzy]

Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:

@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long

CH's account has been deleted from this forum. I noticed this several days ago. I like him actually.

why this ? Any news? Pity IMO

Yeah, I was watching when he did. Fuzz noticed he deleted his own account minutes after posting his last.

Don't worry.  Charles is still frequenting the forums.  Just not likely under his name :)

[Thom]

Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:

@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long

CH's account has been deleted from this forum. I noticed this several days ago. I like him actually.

why this ? Any news? Pity IMO

Yeah, I was watching when he did. Fuzz noticed he deleted his own account minutes after posting his last.

[jsidhu]

good news happened already with swiss bank move

[toast]

Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:

@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long

CH's account has been deleted from this forum. I noticed this several days ago. I like him actually.

why this ? Any news? Pity IMO

I think he ragequit. The thread about testing / dev process is where he declared that he's out

[vlight]

Where are all the leaks when you need them ?  :D

[cass]

Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:

@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long

CH's account has been deleted from this forum. I noticed this several days ago. I like him actually.

why this ? Any news? Pity IMO

[inarizushi]

I really hope a good news is coming, because on the bad news side... : http://www.coindesk.com/research-hackers-install-backdoor-bitcoin-cold-storage/

Can someone evaluate the significance of this ? That doesn't smell good...

FUD news ... old issue ..

from #bitcoin

12:49:11 |  op_mul> coindesk is pushing more nonsense about ECDSA flaws
12:49:30 |  op_mul> "Each time a bitcoin transaction is signed, the signature is generated partly from a random number known as 'k'. The compromised ECDSA uses a specific formula to select 'k' .."
12:49:35 |  op_mul> no fucking shit.
12:50:26 |  Anduck> so.. nothing new there?
12:50:36 |  op_mul> nothing new at all.
12:50:40 |  Anduck> also can't you do the k-pickin in a deterministic way?
12:51:19 |  op_mul> you can, but with bitcoin's ECDSA you can't prove it was picked deterministically without the private key.
12:51:53 |  Anduck> so re-using 'k' is impossible if done right
12:52:06 |  op_mul> improbable.
12:52:36 |  op_mul> there's ~2^128 possible nonces. if you've made the same one twice you've got bigger problems than signatures.
12:53:21 |  op_mul> ie, you used the same RNG to make the private key in the first place.
12:55:15 |  wumpus> an ecdsa *implementation* flaw
12:56:18 |  op_mul> wumpus: point was it's being presented as some new wild attack.
12:56:26 |  wumpus> but yes, old well-known problem
12:56:38 |  wumpus> recycling old problems is very much like FUD
12:56:48 |  op_mul> I'm aware of at least one claimed attack where it has actually been used, though I wasn't able to confirm it.
12:57:48 |  wumpus> broken wallet impementations that reused nonces, sure, I don't know of any cases where it was done intentionally

Thanks xeroc, I'm glad to hear that

[xeroc]

I really hope a good news is coming, because on the bad news side... : http://www.coindesk.com/research-hackers-install-backdoor-bitcoin-cold-storage/

Can someone evaluate the significance of this ? That doesn't smell good...

FUD news ... old issue ..

from #bitcoin

12:49:11 |  op_mul> coindesk is pushing more nonsense about ECDSA flaws
12:49:30 |  op_mul> "Each time a bitcoin transaction is signed, the signature is generated partly from a random number known as 'k'. The compromised ECDSA uses a specific formula to select 'k' .."
12:49:35 |  op_mul> no fucking shit.
12:50:26 |  Anduck> so.. nothing new there?
12:50:36 |  op_mul> nothing new at all.
12:50:40 |  Anduck> also can't you do the k-pickin in a deterministic way?
12:51:19 |  op_mul> you can, but with bitcoin's ECDSA you can't prove it was picked deterministically without the private key.
12:51:53 |  Anduck> so re-using 'k' is impossible if done right
12:52:06 |  op_mul> improbable.
12:52:36 |  op_mul> there's ~2^128 possible nonces. if you've made the same one twice you've got bigger problems than signatures.
12:53:21 |  op_mul> ie, you used the same RNG to make the private key in the first place.
12:55:15 |  wumpus> an ecdsa *implementation* flaw
12:56:18 |  op_mul> wumpus: point was it's being presented as some new wild attack.
12:56:26 |  wumpus> but yes, old well-known problem
12:56:38 |  wumpus> recycling old problems is very much like FUD
12:56:48 |  op_mul> I'm aware of at least one claimed attack where it has actually been used, though I wasn't able to confirm it.
12:57:48 |  wumpus> broken wallet impementations that reused nonces, sure, I don't know of any cases where it was done intentionally

[inarizushi]

I really hope a good news is coming, because on the bad news side... : http://www.coindesk.com/research-hackers-install-backdoor-bitcoin-cold-storage/

Can someone evaluate the significance of this ? That doesn't smell good...

[graffenwalder]

Probably the Bitcoin ETF thing or secondmarkets investment trust thing

I bet on this. Hopefully something like that..

*Bracing for impact.*

It seems that Adam guy and Charles are on other sides. Adam said watch ok coin, which has some big dumps at the moment. And Charles says to go long

[CLains]

Probably the Bitcoin ETF thing or secondmarkets investment trust thing

I bet on this. Hopefully something like that..

*Bracing for impact.*