Development seems to be suspended

[Tuck Fheman]

It is unreasonable to expect every aspect of the Bitshares development process to be posted online. Github commits hardly paint a full picture and threads like this often become an echo chamber for disgruntled armchair project managers. You would know if development was in actual turmoil because the devs would be dumping their significant holdings.

Part of the reason the "gag" is necessary is to start managing investor expectations. Do you want core developers theorycrafting back and forth on the forums or writing code? Should Dan have to hire a scribe to jot down every internal discussion that pertains to development and then post it on the forums? No, you're right, we should have all of the devs start filling out time sheets and posting them online. They'd love that. And just to be extra sure, let's have Stan hovers over their workstations at random intervals to keep them on their toes and REALLY let 'em know that we're watching.

As investors, we have been spoiled by the unprecedented transparency offered by this project in its infancy. Those days are gone. Investors have never, and will never have 100% oversight on the way development and business processes unfold precisely because of the unsubstantiated speculation thrown around in this thread.

[clout]

It's like people don't even realise that the web wallet is out, and that it works perfectly!

wallet.bitshares.org!

wallet.bitshares.org does not have market functionality, does not integrate any bridges or gateways, and you cannot login into your wallet from other computers. currently wallet.bitshares.org is pretty useless. no offense. obviously its a huge milestone, but we certainly would have expected it several weeks if not months ago.

What do you mean? I have successfully logged in to web wallet using my phone. The wallet was created using Windows on PC. I haven't tested it in practice, but with metaexchange i could buy anything using just my phone with BitUSD where BTC is accepted. The only issue is that all web wallets in general are less secure. It isn't useless.   

I mean useless relative to what it needs to be in order to get more people to actually use bitshares. I'm pretty sure its not configured for mobile device. I cant use it on my phone. I just get a white page.

[vlight]

It's like people don't even realise that the web wallet is out, and that it works perfectly!

wallet.bitshares.org!

wallet.bitshares.org does not have market functionality, does not integrate any bridges or gateways, and you cannot login into your wallet from other computers. currently wallet.bitshares.org is pretty useless. no offense. obviously its a huge milestone, but we certainly would have expected it several weeks if not months ago.

What do you mean? I have successfully logged in to web wallet using my phone. The wallet was created using Windows on PC. I haven't tested it in practice, but with metaexchange i could buy anything using just my phone with BitUSD where BTC is accepted. The only issue is that all web wallets in general are less secure. It isn't useless.   

[cass]

It is unreasonable to expect every aspect of the Bitshares development process to be posted online. Github commits hardly paint a full picture and threads like this often become an echo chamber for disgruntled armchair project managers. You would know if development was in actual turmoil because the devs would be dumping their significant holdings.

Part of the reason the "gag" is necessary is to start managing investor expectations. Do you want core developers theorycrafting back and forth on the forums or writing code? Should Dan have to hire a scribe to jot down every internal discussion that pertains to development and then post it on the forums? No, you're right, we should have all of the devs start filling out time sheets and posting them online. They'd love that. And just to be extra sure, let's have Stan hovers over their workstations at random intervals to keep them on their toes and REALLY let 'em know that we're watching.

As investors, we have been spoiled by the unprecedented transparency offered by this project in its infancy. Those days are gone. Investors have never, and will never have 100% oversight on the way development and business processes unfold precisely because of the unsubstantiated speculation thrown around in this thread.

 

 

  well said.

 

[lovejoy]

It is unreasonable to expect every aspect of the Bitshares development process to be posted online. Github commits hardly paint a full picture and threads like this often become an echo chamber for disgruntled armchair project managers. You would know if development was in actual turmoil because the devs would be dumping their significant holdings.

Part of the reason the "gag" is necessary is to start managing investor expectations. Do you want core developers theorycrafting back and forth on the forums or writing code? Should Dan have to hire a scribe to jot down every internal discussion that pertains to development and then post it on the forums? No, you're right, we should have all of the devs start filling out time sheets and posting them online. They'd love that. And just to be extra sure, let's have Stan hovers over their workstations at random intervals to keep them on their toes and REALLY let 'em know that we're watching.

As investors, we have been spoiled by the unprecedented transparency offered by this project in its infancy. Those days are gone. Investors have never, and will never have 100% oversight on the way development and business processes unfold precisely because of the unsubstantiated speculation thrown around in this thread.

 

 

  well said.

[vegolino]

It is unreasonable to expect every aspect of the Bitshares development process to be posted online. Github commits hardly paint a full picture and threads like this often become an echo chamber for disgruntled armchair project managers. You would know if development was in actual turmoil because the devs would be dumping their significant holdings.

Part of the reason the "gag" is necessary is to start managing investor expectations. Do you want core developers theorycrafting back and forth on the forums or writing code? Should Dan have to hire a scribe to jot down every internal discussion that pertains to development and then post it on the forums? No, you're right, we should have all of the devs start filling out time sheets and posting them online. They'd love that. And just to be extra sure, let's have Stan hovers over their workstations at random intervals to keep them on their toes and REALLY let 'em know that we're watching.

As investors, we have been spoiled by the unprecedented transparency offered by this project in its infancy. Those days are gone. Investors have never, and will never have 100% oversight on the way development and business processes unfold precisely because of the unsubstantiated speculation thrown around in this thread.

 

 

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

The rate at which bitshares is developing is quite good... you are just looking in the wrong place for it.

... and yet I am unable to use a wallet on my PC, essentially rendering it useless. Great job!

I just installed the wallet in a newly installed windows 8.1 and imported my wallet. Worked without issue.

If you have a specific problem there are people who can help.. like xeroc.. all you got to do is ask.

You got a web wallet now too.. that didn't happen without dev.

Also just the other day Dan said he was working on optimizing the client to be more user friendly.

[xeroc]

The rate at which bitshares is developing is quite good... you are just looking in the wrong place for it.

... and yet I am unable to use a wallet on my PC, essentially rendering it useless. Great job!

That's not necessarily the developers fault .. Where is the bug report or thread where you are discussing your issue? Maybe I can help you out?

[sumantso]

The rate at which bitshares is developing is quite good... you are just looking in the wrong place for it.

... and yet I am unable to use a wallet on my PC, essentially rendering it useless. Great job!

[fav]

It is unreasonable to expect every aspect of the Bitshares development process to be posted online. Github commits hardly paint a full picture and threads like this often become an echo chamber for disgruntled armchair project managers. You would know if development was in actual turmoil because the devs would be dumping their significant holdings.

Part of the reason the "gag" is necessary is to start managing investor expectations. Do you want core developers theorycrafting back and forth on the forums or writing code? Should Dan have to hire a scribe to jot down every internal discussion that pertains to development and then post it on the forums? No, you're right, we should have all of the devs start filling out time sheets and posting them online. They'd love that. And just to be extra sure, let's have Stan hovers over their workstations at random intervals to keep them on their toes and REALLY let 'em know that we're watching.

As investors, we have been spoiled by the unprecedented transparency offered by this project in its infancy. Those days are gone. Investors have never, and will never have 100% oversight on the way development and business processes unfold precisely because of the unsubstantiated speculation thrown around in this thread.

 

[.yoshi]

It is unreasonable to expect every aspect of the Bitshares development process to be posted online. Github commits hardly paint a full picture and threads like this often become an echo chamber for disgruntled armchair project managers. You would know if development was in actual turmoil because the devs would be dumping their significant holdings.

Part of the reason the "gag" is necessary is to start managing investor expectations. Do you want core developers theorycrafting back and forth on the forums or writing code? Should Dan have to hire a scribe to jot down every internal discussion that pertains to development and then post it on the forums? No, you're right, we should have all of the devs start filling out time sheets and posting them online. They'd love that. And just to be extra sure, let's have Stan hovers over their workstations at random intervals to keep them on their toes and REALLY let 'em know that we're watching.

As investors, we have been spoiled by the unprecedented transparency offered by this project in its infancy. Those days are gone. Investors have never, and will never have 100% oversight on the way development and business processes unfold precisely because of the unsubstantiated speculation thrown around in this thread.

[testz]

The nearest meaningful commit made by core devs was 4 days ago. (Limit fees when covering. https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/commits/develop)

I'm just wondering what they're doing (surely they're working hard but on what?)

Look at previous page: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=14854.msg192350#msg192350

[btswildpig]

The nearest meaningful commit made by core devs was 4 days ago. (Limit fees when covering. https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/commits/develop)

I'm just wondering what they're doing (surely they're working hard but on what?)

https://github.com/BitShares/fc

This is what Bytemaster has been working on .
FC is the underlying technology related to the BitShares project .
You need to look at all of the place  .

https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares
this one , is just part of BitShares that most people know of .

[clayop]

The nearest meaningful commit made by core devs was 4 days ago. (Limit fees when covering. https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/commits/develop)

I'm just wondering what they're doing (surely they're working hard but on what?)

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

The rate at which bitshares is developing is quite good... you are just looking in the wrong place for it.

Last year when updates were coming out every 3 days.. ug.. glad we got past that.