How many people are dispointed with recent bugs

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karnal

Quote from: triox on March 25, 2015, 08:48:14 AM
Quote from: karnal on March 23, 2015, 10:20:27 PM
I've had to re-download the entire blockchain at least 6 times now, excluding the next one (upon upgrading to 0.7.0, most of my balance simply vanished..), had the program repeatedly crash, it's hung on some random block while syncing countless times...

You're doing something wrong.  I've had Bitshares installed since release and I never had any issues. there were maybe 3 minor releases where it wouldn't sync and they were patched within a day or two.  The transition from 0.6.2 > 0.7 > 0.8 was flawless too. Maybe you're using unsupported OS?

Pretty vanilla Ubuntu, installed just for this 8)

triox

Quote from: karnal on March 23, 2015, 10:20:27 PM
I've had to re-download the entire blockchain at least 6 times now, excluding the next one (upon upgrading to 0.7.0, most of my balance simply vanished..), had the program repeatedly crash, it's hung on some random block while syncing countless times...

You're doing something wrong.  I've had Bitshares installed since release and I never had any issues. there were maybe 3 minor releases where it wouldn't sync and they were patched within a day or two.  The transition from 0.6.2 > 0.7 > 0.8 was flawless too. Maybe you're using unsupported OS?

testz

Quote from: gnarl on March 24, 2015, 10:17:30 PM
Old bugs are even worse.

The Check for Updates menu item has never worked.
Someone opened a bug on it, and it was closed immediately. The developer talked his way around fixing it.

The install takes a massive amount of memory, or it crashes and get stuck and never recovers.
Search for Stuck here - 82 threads about the installer or blockchain sync getting stuck.
Its been that way for over a year.

New users just leave if the program doesn't work after you install it.

Did you try 0.8.1?
Check for Updates menu designed to update only the web GUI.

gnarl

Old bugs are even worse.

The Check for Updates menu item has never worked.
Someone opened a bug on it, and it was closed immediately. The developer talked his way around fixing it.

The install takes a massive amount of memory, or it crashes and get stuck and never recovers.
Search for Stuck here - 82 threads about the installer or blockchain sync getting stuck.
Its been that way for over a year.

New users just leave if the program doesn't work after you install it.

xeroc

Quote from: 8-bit on March 24, 2015, 03:24:41 PM
focus on development and technology... not price

everything will work itself out in the end. i'm not disappointed with the bugs by any means. lets be supportive of the development crew, because with their hard work and determination BTS will prevail.
Agreed

8-bit

focus on development and technology... not price

everything will work itself out in the end. i'm not disappointed with the bugs by any means. lets be supportive of the development crew, because with their hard work and determination BTS will prevail.


oldman

Quote from: favdesu on March 24, 2015, 09:58:00 AM
At this stage I don't care about bugs tbh. wait until 1.0 and then start to riot :D

That being said, I will HODL BTS until a) I can quit my day job b) they're worthless and I try not to cry- cry a lot

Hodling to $1, divesting 25%, holding to $10, divesting 25%, holding to $100 divesting 25%.

The rest can go to my kids and grandkids.

Alternatively, hodling to $0 and divesting 0%...

kenCode

Quote from: chryspano on March 23, 2015, 11:30:29 PM
It seems that a lot of people are used/addicted to all those bitcoin shitcoin clones out there that change two variable values in the code and the color of the wallet UI and they call this "innovation".
Do you guys know how much time it takes just to make a simple game? Are you expecting a world changing and complex software to be developed in one single year?
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Quote from: favdesu on March 24, 2015, 09:58:00 AM
At this stage I don't care about bugs tbh. wait until 1.0 and then start to riot :D

That being said, I will HODL BTS until a) I can quit my day job b) they're worthless and I try not to cry- cry a lot

Same.
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At this stage I don't care about bugs tbh. wait until 1.0 and then start to riot :D

That being said, I will HODL BTS until a) I can quit my day job b) they're worthless and I try not to cry- cry a lot
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roselee

Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on March 23, 2015, 09:16:07 PM
Quote from: karnal on March 23, 2015, 08:03:54 PM
To me it's not disappointment as much as frustration. I've played with a lot of altcoins, several of them with much added functionality, and the amount of bugs has been a) minimal and b) nondisruptive.

And in general, over the years I've messed around with alpha and beta quality software, development/HEAD, and simply have not run into half the trouble I've had with BitShares.


For the time being I'm still on the boat but serious doubts are beginning to rise. I would definitely NOT recommend BitShares to anyone right now; I have the motivation and patience to work things out, most people don't, won't, and at any rate, it'd be silly to expect that of them.

The QT wallet seems to be alpha quality at best right now. Maybe I got the wrong impression, but I thought it was somewhat ready for general consumption. It isn't.
Have you tried the bitcoin wallet back in 2009? Or are you comparing a 5 year old software toolkit with 100s of developers with bitshares' 1yr with some 15 devs? Do you consider this a fair comparison? Take a look at btc ... does the wallet support asset trading? i guesa not .. because the blockchain doesn't support it .. at all ..
lol so true
:D

oldman

Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on March 23, 2015, 09:16:07 PM

Have you tried the bitcoin wallet back in 2009? Or are you comparing a 5 year old software toolkit with 100s of developers with bitshares' 1yr with some 15 devs? Do you consider this a fair comparison? Take a look at btc ... does the wallet support asset trading? i guesa not .. because the blockchain doesn't support it .. at all ..


This.

Methodise

Sooo many people struggling with nightmareish bugs.

That's a contrarian buy signal.

BTS: methodise

xiahui135


Quote from: Tuck Fheman on March 23, 2015, 10:56:41 PM
Quote from: xiahui135 on March 23, 2015, 01:17:14 PM
the team can not make it good to support user do some business on it.

That's an attempt to predict teh future, no? 

The BitShares client is still in Beta, so until v1.0 is released we won't be able to accurately say what the client can or can't accomplish.



"HEY! YOU UP THERE!!! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DO BUSINESS IN THIS?!!!"
bitshares have heavy history burden, so it is hard for bitshares to go fast. I think this is the problem. The competition just starts, how can bitshares will survive like this. If there is no Titian, no history that so many other DAC and merge, bitshares will have much few things to consinder than now, and can concentrate on the most important things.


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chryspano

It seems that a lot of people are used/addicted to all those bitcoin shitcoin clones out there that change two variable values in the code and the color of the wallet UI and they call this "innovation".

Do you guys know how much time it takes just to make a simple game? Are you expecting a world changing and complex software to be developed in one single year?

Yes, Elephantcoin and SuperDuperWowCoin probably have fewer bugs than Bitshares, anyone wants to buy some of those?

At this point I dont' give a f@$% about the "bugs".

Tuck Fheman

Quote from: xiahui135 on March 23, 2015, 01:17:14 PM
the team can not make it good to support user do some business on it.

That's an attempt to predict teh future, no? 

The BitShares client is still in Beta, so until v1.0 is released we won't be able to accurately say what the client can or can't accomplish.



"HEY! YOU UP THERE!!! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DO BUSINESS IN THIS?!!!"

karnal

All software has bugs, but we cannot ignore that with all the marketing/promotion being done, getting new people onboard who then immediately become disillusioned with the instability of the software is not going to give any of us any plus points.

You know, I work in IT as well, I can appreciate the complexity of what's being made here.. I build more complex stuff for a living. But when really simple stuff goes south/does not work as advertised, and does so repeatedly... I mean, no exaggeration, I've had to re-download the entire blockchain at least 6 times now, excluding the next one (upon upgrading to 0.7.0, most of my balance simply vanished..), had the program repeatedly crash, it's hung on some random block while syncing countless times...

Essentially, the sort of stuff one'd hope the developers figured out while testing/doing QA. It seems hard to miss such issues!

xeroc

Quote from: karnal on March 23, 2015, 08:03:54 PM
To me it's not disappointment as much as frustration. I've played with a lot of altcoins, several of them with much added functionality, and the amount of bugs has been a) minimal and b) nondisruptive.

And in general, over the years I've messed around with alpha and beta quality software, development/HEAD, and simply have not run into half the trouble I've had with BitShares.


For the time being I'm still on the boat but serious doubts are beginning to rise. I would definitely NOT recommend BitShares to anyone right now; I have the motivation and patience to work things out, most people don't, won't, and at any rate, it'd be silly to expect that of them.

The QT wallet seems to be alpha quality at best right now. Maybe I got the wrong impression, but I thought it was somewhat ready for general consumption. It isn't.
Have you tried the bitcoin wallet back in 2009? Or are you comparing a 5 year old software toolkit with 100s of developers with bitshares' 1yr with some 15 devs? Do you consider this a fair comparison? Take a look at btc ... does the wallet support asset trading? i guesa not .. because the blockchain doesn't support it .. at all ..

btswildpig

I didn't sold any of my BTS when back in December the network crashed for 2 days and I had to stay up between the devs and the exchanges and I could've just lost everything due to forks (back then I had not concept of "robustness" at forks  ) .

Guess I'm not scared now for this .....
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gamey


Instead of HODL we are HOLP. 





































Combination of help/hope/hold.
I speak for myself and only myself.

karnal

To me it's not disappointment as much as frustration. I've played with a lot of altcoins, several of them with much added functionality, and the amount of bugs has been a) minimal and b) nondisruptive.

And in general, over the years I've messed around with alpha and beta quality software, development/HEAD, and simply have not run into half the trouble I've had with BitShares.


For the time being I'm still on the boat but serious doubts are beginning to rise. I would definitely NOT recommend BitShares to anyone right now; I have the motivation and patience to work things out, most people don't, won't, and at any rate, it'd be silly to expect that of them.

The QT wallet seems to be alpha quality at best right now. Maybe I got the wrong impression, but I thought it was somewhat ready for general consumption. It isn't.

vikram

Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on March 23, 2015, 02:02:05 PM
Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on March 23, 2015, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: lastagile on March 23, 2015, 01:35:15 PM
I also have some asset locked. Because The active key was not generated.
Have you notified the devs via github about this?

Pretty sure the active key bug was fixed some weeks ago and was originally scheduled to come with 0.7.0 (before it was renamed 0.8.0). My problem is also due to the active key not being generated. All we can do is wait for the next release. It really sucks.

Yes active key regeneration bug should be fixed in the next non-emergency upgrade.

roselee

so there will soon be a 0.8. version ?
gosh i spend 2 days updating to 0.7.

(knocking my head on the desk )

i love bts but hate to update wallets

lastagile

Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on March 23, 2015, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: lastagile on March 23, 2015, 01:35:15 PM
I also have some asset locked. Because The active key was not generated.
Have you notified the devs via github about this?
Yes. As the 0.7 is an emergency release not included the solution

nomoreheroes7

Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on March 23, 2015, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: lastagile on March 23, 2015, 01:35:15 PM
I also have some asset locked. Because The active key was not generated.
Have you notified the devs via github about this?

Pretty sure the active key bug was fixed some weeks ago and was originally scheduled to come with 0.7.0 (before it was renamed 0.8.0). My problem is also due to the active key not being generated. All we can do is wait for the next release. It really sucks.

xeroc

Quote from: lastagile on March 23, 2015, 01:35:15 PM
I also have some asset locked. Because The active key was not generated.
Have you notified the devs via github about this?

lastagile

Quote from: kenCode on March 23, 2015, 01:14:36 PM
Quote from: lastagile on March 23, 2015, 12:56:16 PM
When will The next release fire?
I'd rather have features added and fixed correctly, not half assed. The Devs are workin night and day as you can see:
https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/milestones

If you have mad coding skills, you're welcome to help out.
See my last post with about 15 other things you can help out with too if you like.
I'm helping because it helps to expand my investments and possibilites here.

What do you like best about BitShares and BitAssets?
I hope version 0.8 will be an robust release. Do not rush to fire next one
Quote from: xiahui135 on March 23, 2015, 01:17:14 PM
I do not have any problem with the release, and i will not feel strange there are bugs in a software.
But it seems bitshares is not well-structured though the idea is good. the team can not make it good to support user do some business on it.

lastagile

Quote from: kenCode on March 23, 2015, 01:14:36 PM
Quote from: lastagile on March 23, 2015, 12:56:16 PM
When will The next release fire?
I'd rather have features added and fixed correctly, not half assed. The Devs are workin night and day as you can see:
https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/milestones

If you have mad coding skills, you're welcome to help out.
See my last post with about 15 other things you can help out with too if you like.
I'm helping because it helps to expand my investments and possibilites here.

What do you like best about BitShares and BitAssets?
I am a developer, but I need to do my fulltime work. Sorry for that. I hope u guys can handle it well.

lastagile

Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on March 23, 2015, 01:07:28 PM
Yes, a release or at least some kind of confirmation from the dev team that the release is in process/coming soon/delayed etc is needed pretty badly right about now. Hell all my BTS are still locked up in the current 0.7.0 due to a bug that's supposed to be fixed in 0.8.0. Been waiting about a month already.
I also have some asset locked. Because The active key was not generated. Now people can not short, and the price keeping down. Crazy

xiahui135

I do not have any problem with the release, and i will not feel strange there are bugs in a software.
But it seems bitshares is not well-structured though the idea is good. the team can not make it good to support user do some business on it.

btswildpig

Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on March 23, 2015, 01:07:28 PM
Yes, a release or at least some kind of confirmation from the dev team that the release is in process/coming soon/delayed etc is needed pretty badly right about now. Hell all my BTS are still locked up in the current 0.7.0 due to a bug that's supposed to be fixed in 0.8.0. Been waiting about a month already.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=15089.msg195214#msg195214

https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/commit/b97f25a47d10715fb5dfff7130c41978d591639a

looks like the code is done , I guess the rest is testing .
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kenCode

Quote from: lastagile on March 23, 2015, 12:56:16 PM
When will The next release fire?
I'd rather have features added and fixed correctly, not half assed. The Devs are workin night and day as you can see:
https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/milestones

If you have mad coding skills, you're welcome to help out.
See my last post with about 15 other things you can help out with too if you like.
I'm helping because it helps to expand my investments and possibilites here.

What do you like best about BitShares and BitAssets?
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nomoreheroes7

Yes, a release or at least some kind of confirmation from the dev team that the release is in process/coming soon/delayed etc is needed pretty badly right about now. Hell all my BTS are still locked up in the current 0.7.0 due to a bug that's supposed to be fixed in 0.8.0. Been waiting about a month already.

lastagile


lastagile

#1
I'm very dispointed with so many bugs we recently have. What happend to dev team? I holp next release will be a better one.

Every month we have bugs. No one review the code? BM do your job.