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#ccedk Qora is a business partner of OpenLedger?

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Wallet v0.23.0 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.23.0

This is a mandatory update, if you are not update your wallet to version 0.23 before block 142.000 it will cause your wallet to fork.

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The v0.23.0 release includes the following updates:

Automated Transactions Update
Transactions Map update
Storing Arbitrary files on blockchain
Multiple keys support
Automated Transactions Web Resources
Integration of Revision Control System
Namestorage History
Pebble injections for websites
Enhanced System Tray Icon
Light Wallet version
Batch transactions enabled (limited to 50)
Scaled fee increase for large sized transactions
Hashtags support on social network
Direct link to blog post
Deletion of posts
Websites Preview
Easy File Upload
Updated third-party libraries
Minor optimizations and bug fixes

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SHA1 :  a7892bebf31944ca5a2cda987d9c22f8e820785b
SHA256 : c9b9b07db319ce1ea6c3003f2647d76a8fad88c12a6ae052a7bb081ff3cc2fe0
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NB! Window wallet update is available later tonight!
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This is what I'm seeing. $BTS and $QORA had the largest change in the last 24 hours. I'm thinking it's because of the QORA/BTS pair on CCEDK



The volume in the qora is $31.  That means it didnt move.
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This is what I'm seeing. $BTS and $QORA had the largest change in the last 24 hours. I'm thinking it's because of the QORA/BTS pair on CCEDK


« Last Edit: September 05, 2015, 10:26:20 pm by BossYamasaki »

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$QORA up 50.3%

Where? It didnt move at all on polo.

CCEDK QORA/BTS accounts for 94.2% of the trading volume

Seems like Qora/BTS ratio stayed the same, and what you are seeing is that BTS is up 50%.
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$QORA up 50.3%

Where? It didnt move at all on polo.

CCEDK QORA/BTS accounts for 94.2% of the trading volume

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$QORA up 50.3%

Where? It didnt move at all on polo.
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$QORA up 50.3%

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How do you join the slack group?  Its saying it doesn't recognize my email and I must be invited by the team admin.

http://slack.qora.org/

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I can't get the wallet to function reliably.  I've tried on 3 different computers  windows and linux . 

It seems ok for a moment but moving from tab to tab it eventually bogs down and freezes.

It syncs up but left to itself it invariably loses connection and gets stuck.

I've started from scratch dozens of times and its the same result every time.   I was hoping to get it to forge blocks but with all the above issues its not happening.

I like the possibilities, but currently the wallet is pretty terrible.  Maybe its just me though.

You may need to adjust some java settings and/or update java. Stop by the Qora slack and ask a Dev for some help if you like.

How do you join the slack group?  Its saying it doesn't recognize my email and I must be invited by the team admin. 

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Found it. It seems like more of a chatroom than a forum though. I'm a little lost because I've grown accustomed to doing a large part of my due diligence for a crypto in their forums.

I have tons of noob questions about this chain.

This is the latest thread on BTT ...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1015379

Qora used to have a forum, but no one used it. Right now they are building a decentralized social media, so that is where the focus is. You may see a forum of sorts on the blockchain one day along with a Youtube, Reddit, Dropbox, etc. They already have a Facebook.

The community is a small group of longtime hodlers, a bunch of new devs and whoever's purchased in the last few months. =)   There's never really been much of a marketing effort, it's more of a, "here's our badass blockchain, stick around if you like", situation.
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I downloaded the qora client and gave it a shot. This convinced me to grab a handful from ccedk, where I now have a deposit pending.

The thing that stood out to me most was the complete lack of any kind of forum. Perhaps this is built into qora itself on their decentralized internet?

From what I've been reading tonight, QORA has a lot of potential but it strikes as completely lacking any kind of community, or am I overlooking it?

I figure 12 satoshis is a good price to buy a couple litecoins worth. With a market cap of what, ~200,000 there's SO much room to grow. I would say they need to implement a forum asap.

What exactly is the naming service? I found the decentralized web browser and server, but how do I go about accessing this social network?

The community is in slack I believe.

Found it. It seems like more of a chatroom than a forum though. I'm a little lost because I've grown accustomed to doing a large part of my due diligence for a crypto in their forums.

I have tons of noob questions about this chain.

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I downloaded the qora client and gave it a shot. This convinced me to grab a handful from ccedk, where I now have a deposit pending.

The thing that stood out to me most was the complete lack of any kind of forum. Perhaps this is built into qora itself on their decentralized internet?

From what I've been reading tonight, QORA has a lot of potential but it strikes as completely lacking any kind of community, or am I overlooking it?

I figure 12 satoshis is a good price to buy a couple litecoins worth. With a market cap of what, ~200,000 there's SO much room to grow. I would say they need to implement a forum asap.

What exactly is the naming service? I found the decentralized web browser and server, but how do I go about accessing this social network?

The community is in slack I believe.
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I downloaded the qora client and gave it a shot. This convinced me to grab a handful from ccedk, where I now have a deposit pending.

The thing that stood out to me most was the complete lack of any kind of forum. Perhaps this is built into qora itself on their decentralized internet?

From what I've been reading tonight, QORA has a lot of potential but it strikes as completely lacking any kind of community, or am I overlooking it?

I figure 12 satoshis is a good price to buy a couple litecoins worth. With a market cap of what, ~200,000 there's SO much room to grow. I would say they need to implement a forum asap.

What exactly is the naming service? I found the decentralized web browser and server, but how do I go about accessing this social network?

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I can't get the wallet to function reliably.  I've tried on 3 different computers  windows and linux . 

It seems ok for a moment but moving from tab to tab it eventually bogs down and freezes.

It syncs up but left to itself it invariably loses connection and gets stuck.

I've started from scratch dozens of times and its the same result every time.   I was hoping to get it to forge blocks but with all the above issues its not happening.

I like the possibilities, but currently the wallet is pretty terrible.  Maybe its just me though.

You may need to adjust some java settings and/or update java. Stop by the Qora slack and ask a Dev for some help if you like.

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I can't get the wallet to function reliably.  I've tried on 3 different computers  windows and linux . 

It seems ok for a moment but moving from tab to tab it eventually bogs down and freezes.

It syncs up but left to itself it invariably loses connection and gets stuck.

I've started from scratch dozens of times and its the same result every time.   I was hoping to get it to forge blocks but with all the above issues its not happening.

I like the possibilities, but currently the wallet is pretty terrible.  Maybe its just me though. 

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Have a look at the qora presentation with voice:

https://youtu.be/JhES47NFdZw

Could this be done with some animated texting as well? That might create some great impact.
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Last block produced over 6 hours ago.  is that normal?

arhag, who runs the block explorer, probably just needs to resync. it happens from time to time.

My client seems fairly unstable.   Freezes for some reason after a time left to itself.

Make sure you're using the latest version of the client ... https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases

After making sure you have your Seed/Password you can delete wallet and data folders and resync. It usually solves all issues. You can grab the latest chain to save time ... http://qora.co.in/?datafolder

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Any updates? Bitcointalk thread is very quiet.

BAMM: https://www.coinigy.com/main/markets/CCDK/QORA/BTS

Good news.  I did not realize that they are located in Milwaukee.  That is where I live and I actually graduated from the same College as Kehl.  Maybe I could setup a meeting with them in the future to talk about expanding their role with bitshares.

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Last block produced over 6 hours ago.  is that normal?

My client seems fairly unstable.   Freezes for some reason after a time left to itself.

Very interesting exciting project.  They seem to be headed for a number of firsts.  I hope they can figure out all of their scaling and other issues or it may just be a full throttle kamikaze exploratory experiment into the void, crash and burn style.

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Any updates? Bitcointalk thread is very quiet.

Oh ya, plenty of updates are in the works. These guys never stop! ;)

In the next release they will be making mods to decentralized sites and post much easier as well as allowing larger sites to exist.

I'm sure there will be some more tricks they come up with but I'll leave that for the Dev Team to announce.

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I know that the website is planned to launch end of august, and have already asked if there was not an idea to develop some sort of marketing team, because not enough is done in this regard, and I have no time to daily present news although i wish I could, but only human :)
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Any updates? Bitcointalk thread is very quiet.

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does Qora have any realtionship with Tauchain?

No.

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does Qora have any realtionship with Tauchain? I think I remember reading something about it but I didn't pay much attention and it was a while ago. Could someone confirm this/correct me?
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The above mentioned article has now been translated into following languages: Anyone else wants to earn 100K Qora?

Polski: Qora powstaje na nowo wraz z siecią społeczną, opcją głosowania oraz promocja od CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4318.msg95264#msg95264

Russian: QORA – новое возрождение, соц сеть, голосование и биржа CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4287.0

Greek: Το Qora κάνει μια νέα αρχή με ένα κοινωνικό δίκτυο, ψηφοφορίες και προώθηση μέσω του ανταλλακτηρίου CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4319.msg95265#msg95265

Deutsch:Qora reloaded mit Sozialen Netzwerk, Voting und CCEDK Börse Promotion http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4271.0

Francais: Qora revient avec un réseau social, un système vote et une promotion sur l'échange CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4273.0

Indonesian: Qora kembali dengan jaringan sosial dan CCEDK promosi pertukaran http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4320.msg95267#msg95267

Portuguese -Qora revive com rede social, votação e promoção na corretora CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4326.0

Spanish on the way

Romanian Qora se relansează cu rețelele de socializare, vot şi promovarea schimbului de valută CCEDK.com http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4332.msg95321#msg95321

Just to let you know @ccedk - the Polish translation is not of the highest standard. I mean it is grammatically correct but sounds quite artificial and sometimes a bit awkward.
e.g. "community" is translated as "society".
If you want I can prepare a better one.

The guy who translated is still young and perhaps not understanding all correctly. Feel free to contact m directly on ronny@ccedk.com to discuss it more or future projects.
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The above mentioned article has now been translated into following languages: Anyone else wants to earn 100K Qora?

Polski: Qora powstaje na nowo wraz z siecią społeczną, opcją głosowania oraz promocja od CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4318.msg95264#msg95264

Russian: QORA – новое возрождение, соц сеть, голосование и биржа CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4287.0

Greek: Το Qora κάνει μια νέα αρχή με ένα κοινωνικό δίκτυο, ψηφοφορίες και προώθηση μέσω του ανταλλακτηρίου CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4319.msg95265#msg95265

Deutsch:Qora reloaded mit Sozialen Netzwerk, Voting und CCEDK Börse Promotion http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4271.0

Francais: Qora revient avec un réseau social, un système vote et une promotion sur l'échange CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4273.0

Indonesian: Qora kembali dengan jaringan sosial dan CCEDK promosi pertukaran http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4320.msg95267#msg95267

Portuguese -Qora revive com rede social, votação e promoção na corretora CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4326.0

Spanish on the way

Romanian Qora se relansează cu rețelele de socializare, vot şi promovarea schimbului de valută CCEDK.com http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4332.msg95321#msg95321

Just to let you know @ccedk - the Polish translation is not of the highest standard. I mean it is grammatically correct but sounds quite artificial and sometimes a bit awkward.
e.g. "community" is translated as "society".
If you want I can prepare a better one.

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Looking really nice!  +5%

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Website is soon coming up end of august 2015, here is a quick peak of what great stuff and presentation you will encounter:


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Looks like someone bought another 9 BTC worth of Qora on polo.  Ate most of the 14-16 sat sell wall. :)

There is also 2 orders of 500€ each buying QORA on CCEDK.

It seem that you were right ander ! I'm glad I read your post and got some ;)

Hodl until you have big gains, then convert 1/3 - 1/2 back and buy BTS with it so that your remaining QORA is free, and hodl the rest of the QORA forever.

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Perfect time to use CCEDK to get some Qora, its already up 30% on polo, hasnt moved yet on ccedk, several BTC worth available there for cheap.
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17 btc of buys today on polo!
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Looks like someone bought another 9 BTC worth of Qora on polo.  Ate most of the 14-16 sat sell wall. :)

There is also 2 orders of 500€ each buying QORA on CCEDK.

It seem that you were right ander ! I'm glad I read your post and got some ;)

Hodl until you have big gains, then convert 1/3 - 1/2 back and buy BTS with it so that your remaining QORA is free, and hodl the rest of the QORA forever. 
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Looks like someone bought another 9 BTC worth of Qora on polo.  Ate most of the 14-16 sat sell wall. :)

There is also 2 orders of 500€ each buying QORA on CCEDK.

It seem that you were right ander ! I'm glad I read your post and got some ;)
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Maybe the Forbes article today is already making some noise. I guess people have all weekend to chew on the news.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2015/08/07/cryptocurrency-nextgen-qora-reloads-with-bitcoin-exchange-social-network-enhancements/
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Looks like someone bought another 9 BTC worth of Qora on polo.  Ate most of the 14-16 sat sell wall. :)
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Nothing wrong with diversifying your portfolio. I actually sold 25% of my BTS holdings to buy Qora. IMHO a decentralized web is pretty huge!

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...but dont dump BTS for it.  Dump anything else. :P
It feels like BTS is going down in the past day because some of you are selling to buy Qora or something. ;)

I sold Maidsafe to buy Qora, because Qora is doing Maidsafe better than Maidsafe. ;)

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Qora will hav its own article on Forbes most probably tomorrow mentioning Bitshares 2.0 and the potential work together in the two currencies.

I did it this way to make way for a future article on Forbes with Bitshares 2.0 once we have the confirmation of launch time
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YouTube Video: Qora is a platform that aims to decentralize the world

https://youtu.be/H-NBXMUjqeA
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The above mentioned article has now been translated into following languages: Anyone else wants to earn 100K Qora?

Polski: Qora powstaje na nowo wraz z siecią społeczną, opcją głosowania oraz promocja od CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4318.msg95264#msg95264

Russian: QORA – новое возрождение, соц сеть, голосование и биржа CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4287.0

Greek: Το Qora κάνει μια νέα αρχή με ένα κοινωνικό δίκτυο, ψηφοφορίες και προώθηση μέσω του ανταλλακτηρίου CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4319.msg95265#msg95265

Deutsch:Qora reloaded mit Sozialen Netzwerk, Voting und CCEDK Börse Promotion http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4271.0

Francais: Qora revient avec un réseau social, un système vote et une promotion sur l'échange CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4273.0

Indonesian: Qora kembali dengan jaringan sosial dan CCEDK promosi pertukaran http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4320.msg95267#msg95267

Portuguese -Qora revive com rede social, votação e promoção na corretora CCEDK http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4326.0

Spanish on the way

Romanian Qora se relansează cu rețelele de socializare, vot şi promovarea schimbului de valută CCEDK.com http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4332.msg95321#msg95321
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Could I have some comments on the yesterday article in Bitscan? How do you like it and have you gone there to share with other s via the twitter face book links etc.

https://bitscan.com/articles/qora-reloads-with-social-network-and-new-2.0-features

great write up! i posted it to our blog and Qora's decentralized web and sent out in mailing list.

http://bitcoingarden.tk/second-generation-currency-qora-reloads-with-social-network-voting-and-ccedk-exchange-promo/

a little extra here with the mentioning of Bitshares as well ;)

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Could I have some comments on the yesterday article in Bitscan? How do you like it and have you gone there to share with other s via the twitter face book links etc.

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...but dont dump BTS for it.  Dump anything else. :P
It feels like BTS is going down in the past day because some of you are selling to buy Qora or something. ;)

I sold Maidsafe to buy Qora, because Qora is doing Maidsafe better than Maidsafe. ;)

Isn't qora just putting the website in a data field within transaction? so the site is stored on the chain, while maidsafe was using more clever techniques such as storing the hash of the file instead of the file contents? and/or using distributed cloud techniques?

If true, bottom line might look like qora is a winner but qora's implementation in that case would take 1 day to implement that while maidsafe would take months to iron out, which is probably why its priced in as 1/40th the marketcap.

Tuck was being slightly facetious. Yes they are completely different beasts attempting to accomplish somewhat similar goals in different ways. Qora finished their web server in a short time (born out of an idea that came in a matter of hours) and MaidSafe is still giving monthly updates on progress (after 6+ years). I believe it was a decision born from the question "which one will double me up (again) in the shortest amount of time".  He's had a lot of success with MAID in January, April and again this month so ... rinse & repeat. ;)

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...but dont dump BTS for it.  Dump anything else. :P
It feels like BTS is going down in the past day because some of you are selling to buy Qora or something. ;)

I sold Maidsafe to buy Qora, because Qora is doing Maidsafe better than Maidsafe. ;)

Isn't qora just putting the website in a data field within transaction? so the site is stored on the chain, while maidsafe was using more clever techniques such as storing the hash of the file instead of the file contents? and/or using distributed cloud techniques?

If true, bottom line might look like qora is a winner but qora's implementation in that case would take 1 day to implement that while maidsafe would take months to iron out, which is probably why its priced in as 1/40th the marketcap.
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@tbone I'm reuploading another copy. No clue why that one is still processing. I'll post new link when ready, sorry.

Edited version is ready : https://soundcloud.com/tuck-fheman/beyond-bitcoin-bonus-hangout-on-qora-with-vrontis-july-25th-2015

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...but dont dump BTS for it.  Dump anything else. :P
It feels like BTS is going down in the past day because some of you are selling to buy Qora or something. ;)

I sold Maidsafe to buy Qora, because Qora is doing Maidsafe better than Maidsafe. ;)

Good idea!  Qora is also about 1/40 the market cap of maidsafe.
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...but dont dump BTS for it.  Dump anything else. :P
It feels like BTS is going down in the past day because some of you are selling to buy Qora or something. ;)

I sold Maidsafe to buy Qora, because Qora is doing Maidsafe better than Maidsafe. ;)

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TLDR transcript:

32:10 Fuzzy: "This is BEYOND BITCOIN, you know what I mean..."

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...but dont dump BTS for it.  Dump anything else. :P
It feels like BTS is going down in the past day because some of you are selling to buy Qora or something. ;)
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I don't want to sell any anymore. :P

I had been trading Qora on polo, sell@9, rebuy@7 to increase my Qora and buy a bit of BTS.  I was going to send half of it to ccedk and do the same thing there. 

But now with the pump my whole trading stash is gone.  I am going to hodl what I have left and wait for order of magnitude price increases before I sell more.

I'm going to send some btc over to ccedk and try to rebuy some at 12 or something, but don't expect a sell wall from me. :)  I don't have any more that I am willing to sell.

The new social network features have changed the game.  Qora could become decentralized twitter and reddit now.  I didnt see this coming at all, the Qora devs have shocked me!  I was just happy that it was alive again, but now it looks like it could be a top 10 crypto, maybe top 5. 

Qora could be a 100x in 2015.
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@tbone I'm reuploading another copy. No clue why that one is still processing. I'll post new link when ready, sorry.

Edited version is ready : https://beyondbitcoin.org/bonus-hangout-qora-vrontis-ciyam

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@Buck Fankers - Thanks, but for some reason that link is not working.  Is it possible the file is still uploading?

ya it's almost done processing

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Is the recording of this hangout going to be available anytime soon?  Eager to hear it.  If editing is holding it up, perhaps a raw version can be posted in the meantime?  Would certainly be appreciated.

@tbone Posting my raw copy to soundcloud, will link it here when done.

https://soundcloud.com/tuck-fheman/raw-beyond-bitcoin-bonus-hangout-with-vrontis-from-qora

Needs a few minutes to process. skip the first 5 minutes or so when everyone was confused. ;)

@Buck Fankers - Thanks, but for some reason that link is not working.  Is it possible the file is still uploading?

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Is the recording of this hangout going to be available anytime soon?  Eager to hear it.  If editing is holding it up, perhaps a raw version can be posted in the meantime?  Would certainly be appreciated.

@tbone Posting my raw copy to soundcloud, will link it here when done.

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Needs a few minutes to process. skip the first 5 minutes or so when everyone was confused. ;)
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Is the recording of this hangout going to be available anytime soon?  Eager to hear it.  If editing is holding it up, perhaps a raw version can be posted in the meantime?  Would certainly be appreciated.

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Is anyone taking this coin seriously? Do you ever see it coming near ripple or nxt market cap?

Yes, very seriously. You should listen to the Beyond Bitcoin hangout tomorrow morning 10AM EST, July 25th with Qora core Dev Vrontis and CIYAM.

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Is anyone taking this coin seriously? Do you ever see it coming near ripple or nxt market cap?

The Qora devs are certainly taking it seriously. 

Its a long way from top 10 market cap of course.
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Is anyone taking this coin seriously? Do you ever see it coming near ripple or nxt market cap?

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Any profits made from trading Qora are going back into BTS. ;)
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VINIDCATION!

21 sats on polo today.  :)
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Looks like the market is frozen on Poloniex? Is it being actively traded anywhere?

It should be on Alcurex soon and I've corresponded with "Beorn" at ShapeShift, but it's still just under consideration. As mentioned Poloniex should have their wallet issues fixed "soonish" and once cross-chain transactions prove themselves who knows how many projects will jump on board. It's always zero to m00n, play your hand accordingly.


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It doesn't hurt to invest in other projects that have potential.

 +5% we grabbed a little more off of our bitasset profits.

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You can see the rich list here:
http://qora.co.in/?top=100

Lot's of new faces in that list in the last 10 days and they're pushing some old-timers down a bit.

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If I may add - BURST has a totally cool mining algorithm, and the best distribution I've ever seen, since the difference of hard drive space across users is not that big.

... and it and Qora will soon have a cross-chain transaction.

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Is it based off of satoshi's blockchain implementation or? Anyways only way I see it sustaining any rise is if there is real world usability and integration other than jus tpromises and empty shells of projects just sitting there because noone finds them useful.
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The developer abandoned his own baby for the same reason he abandoned NXT probably.  He was gone for months multiple times and the price would rise 300% when he returned and then drift back down when he disappeared again.  Anyway, the dev abandoning it is the main reason it got super cheap in the first place.  The reason its a good buy is that has acquires *several* new devs now to replace the creator who left it, but the price has not yet gone back up to where it was when it had a developer.
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Sounds interesting but if it's so great then why did the original developer leave his own baby?

EDIT: To answer my own question:

"I do not want to abandon this project but at the moment I simply have no choice.

My social and professional life have been damaged too much and I need to recover this while I still can.

Hopefully I can come back soon to continue the development of this project.

71ecef2545d3eb457e65df92c7320aee502adb0befb0f97fc0c4779fde8c7782"
From: https://github.com/Qora/Qora

Here's the genesis distribution: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P_SE9VBAcmuTjmHU-OJVoc7rns-iDVlsMvhnfS2QgJE/edit#gid=0



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Looks like the market is frozen on Poloniex? Is it being actively traded anywhere?
Poloniex has had wallet issues for months, they need the new wallet version to come out to fix them (its probably related to the fact that they created thousands of user accounts all within one wallet address).  Only Bter is currently trading.
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Looks like the market is frozen on Poloniex? Is it being actively traded anywhere?
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just want to say ... i'm contact with Ian Knowles (CIYAM Lead developer) and was talking with Dan N. etc about possibilites to add AT to BitShares... but 1.0 is top priority right now!

And yes i'm personally thinking BitShares + AT + ACCT = gamechanger --- but i'm not a technical guy or dev - it's just my personal feeling about!

But yes, Burst and Qora are the first coins out there with ACCT - automated cross chain trading!

Yea I also spoke with CIYAM guy in the bitcointalk thread and told them they could have delegates but they didn't really respond.. not sure if that guy was Ian though. About the QORA thing... it might be  might not be its 50%/50% up or down, id rather focus on bitshares, its 10x undervalued right now anyways.. and 10x potential on top so theres 100x gain to be had here.

In my completely unbacked and utterly biased opinion BTS should trade for $1-5/BTS when:

- Wallet/DEX are stable/reliable
- Two or three fiat gateways are up
- bitUSD/CNY/EUR/OIL/GLD/SLV books have a few million in depth.

Again, completely out of thin air but based on a fairly sound understanding of current progress on most fronts, I would guess the pop happens in the next two years.

QORA is neat, but the name sucks and neatest bits can be added to BTS...

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Looks like the market is frozen on Poloniex? Is it being actively traded anywhere?


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Looks like a interesting project.

I only briefly looked buts whats the distribution?

IPO, similar to NXT, with relatively small participation (but more than NXT). 

You can see the rich list here:
http://qora.co.in/?top=100

There is some concentration, but remember that the coin is tiny and has a small community still.
Two of those top holders are bter and poloniex, not individuals, but some are individuals. 

It probably has a bit more concentration at the top than BTS does, and more 1% holders, because there are less holders overall.  It did get distributed some during the 9 months it has been trading, and it recently came back down near the ipo price.

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Looks like a interesting project.

I only briefly looked buts whats the distribution?

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I bouught some. I didn't sell any BTS for it. It doesn't hurt to invest in other projects that have potential.

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just want to say ... i'm contact with Ian Knowles (CIYAM Lead developer) and was talking with Dan N. etc about possibilites to add AT to BitShares... but 1.0 is top priority right now!

And yes i'm personally thinking BitShares + AT + ACCT = gamechanger --- but i'm not a technical guy or dev - it's just my personal feeling about!

But yes, Burst and Qora are the first coins out there with ACCT - automated cross chain trading!

Yea I also spoke with CIYAM guy in the bitcointalk thread and told them they could have delegates but they didn't really respond.. not sure if that guy was Ian though. About the QORA thing... it might be  might not be its 50%/50% up or down, id rather focus on bitshares, its 10x undervalued right now anyways.. and 10x potential on top so theres 100x gain to be had here.
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Hey Ander, I'm spending ALL of my time and my own money to help BitShares in every way I can. And here you are on our forum trying to get readers to invest spare cash in a competing project?

How about putting at least a modicum of effort into promoting BTS to the world?

Yeah, I know that you are claiming that we can use profits from your "opportunity" to reinvest in bitshares in the near future - but I call bullshit. Dividing the community's attention and efforts is no way to further this project.

I understand what you're saying.  And again, I DOTN want to hurt BTS in any way, or distract the community. 
I just want to point out a tiny coin that I feel is insanely undervalued right now.  If some of us buy a little, and it goes up, it gives us money to buy BTS, and thats good.

Was really happy to wake up today and see both BTS and QORA way up. ;)
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just want to say ... i'm contact with Ian Knowles (CIYAM Lead developer) and was talking with Dan N. etc about possibilites to add AT to BitShares... but 1.0 is top priority right now!

And yes i'm personally thinking BitShares + AT + ACCT = gamechanger --- but i'm not a technical guy or dev - it's just my personal feeling about!

But yes, Burst and Qora are the first coins out there with ACCT - automated cross chain trading!

Getting the CIYAM team to add AT and ACCT to bitshares would be amazing.  (After 1.0).
We should definitely do that if possible!
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Thanks for the indepth info! We should all be investors in addition to being marketers, journalists, evangelists, developers and entrepreneurs. With all the time and effort we put into understanding the cryptospace we are all in a unique position to anticipate developments and profit from it.

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Interesting.

It is very tempting to ignore all other projects and focus on BitShares, but as much as I would like BitShares  to succeed that would be a big mistake imo. If you know the terrain you will always have an advantage in battle.

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"Do you want to trade some shitcoins??"

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Thanks for the indepth info! We should all be investors in addition to being marketers, journalists, evangelists, developers and entrepreneurs. With all the time and effort we put into understanding the cryptospace we are all in a unique position to anticipate developments and profit from it.

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just want to say ... i'm contact with Ian Knowles (CIYAM Lead developer) and was talking with Dan N. etc about possibilites to add AT to BitShares... but 1.0 is top priority right now!

And yes i'm personally thinking BitShares + AT + ACCT = gamechanger --- but i'm not a technical guy or dev - it's just my personal feeling about!

But yes, Burst and Qora are the first coins out there with ACCT - automated cross chain trading!

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Hey Ander, I'm spending ALL of my time and my own money to help BitShares in every way I can. And here you are on our forum trying to get readers to invest spare cash in a competing project?

How about putting at least a modicum of effort into promoting BTS to the world?

Yeah, I know that you are claiming that we can use profits from your "opportunity" to reinvest in bitshares in the near future - but I call bullshit. Dividing the community's attention and efforts is no way to further this project.
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No thank you.  :)

In my biased opinion, anyone buying anything else than bts right now must be crazy!

How's that working out for you? :)

Buying bts? It works great, I have 3x more bts than in the past.

Market manipulation and cheap bts will be over soon, unless btc38 is dumping their customers funds lol. In any case I'm looking long term :)

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No thank you.  :)

In my biased opinion, anyone buying anything else than bts right now must be crazy!

How's that working out for you? :)

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If I may add - BURST has a totally cool mining algorithm, and the best distribution I've ever seen, since the difference of hard drive space across users is not that big.

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Hey Ander, I'm spending ALL of my time and my own money to help BitShares in every way I can. And here you are on our forum trying to get readers to invest spare cash in a competing project?

How about putting at least a modicum of effort into promoting BTS to the world?

Yeah, I know that you are claiming that we can use profits from your "opportunity" to reinvest in bitshares in the near future - but I call bullshit. Dividing the community's attention and efforts is no way to further this project.

This is a trading discussion. Totally legit place for it.

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Hey Ander, I'm spending ALL of my time and my own money to help BitShares in every way I can. And here you are on our forum trying to get readers to invest spare cash in a competing project?

How about putting at least a modicum of effort into promoting BTS to the world?

Yeah, I know that you are claiming that we can use profits from your "opportunity" to reinvest in bitshares in the near future - but I call bullshit. Dividing the community's attention and efforts is no way to further this project.

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No thank you.  :)

In my biased opinion, anyone buying anything else than bts right now must be crazy!


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I think there are many good reasons to think that the coin QORA might be in for a huge rise in the coming months.  (Not talking about making 100% here.  We are talking about making 10x or even more). 


Now, I know BTS is really low right now.  I still have all my BTS, and I am not advocating people sell BTS right now.  But we all probably have some fiat, and some BTC, and some other coins, and we can look for some ways to invest those in something that will rise.  Lets face it, diversification has benefits (imagine if you had diversified in various coins a few months back.  You couldve sold ripple and darkcoin at now high prices to get more BTS!) 


So lets talk about QORA.  What is it?

Its a proof of stake variant coin, written entirely from scratch (not based on any other crypto), which has a number of powerful features.
QORA has assets, it has proposal voting, and it is about to have automated transactions (turing complete scripting) added. 
Automated Transactions: http://ciyam.org/at/at.html
QORA and Burst are on track to be the first two coins to have this feature, and it allows developers to create and run scripts.
QORA is on track to be the first coin to have atomic cross chain transfer capability:  http://ciyam.org/at/at_atomic.html

The coin is now open source, and has been verified as being not based on any other code base.
Oh yeah, and the creator is probably the creator of NXT.  (Thats the rumor at least, and the dev acts exactly like the mysterious NXT creator, and also left several hints that he was the same person). 


Alright, so QORA has some features.  Does it have the potential that Bitshares does?  No.  We all know market pegged assets is a big deal, and DPoS is a big deal.
But the crucial difference is that QORA's market cap is only 1% of BTS market cap.   That means that however much moeny you hav in BTS, you can put just 1% of that amount into QORA and have the same percentage stake. 


So why so cheap, if it has these features?  Is this some dead shitcoin?
No.  Its only priced like one.

We have all experienced BTS going through hell recently.  Bter going down and having just btc38 as a major exchange.  The market short order bug, the whales selling, the PR blunders, and so on.

As horrible as all that is, QORA has had it much worse, and is more beaten down, recently being down 98% from its high in dollar terms. 
First of all, the developer left.  The poloniex exchange couldnt get the wallet to work correctly without his help, and has had QORA disabled for months, and then bter went down.  This left 0 working exchanges for QORA and no developer.   You would think that would be *the end*, right?   This is why the price got down to 5 satoshis (as Bter returned but QORA could not be withdrawn yet, and everyone dumped it like mad to get their money out).  The website even was taken down for a while.


But the communtiy organized, and found a new dev, who recruited another dev, and now there is a whole team of devs who just started working on QORA. 
From zero devs to a half dozen within weeks, QORA has returned from the grave.

There is now a QORA team assembled, with 6 devs (five new devs plus the missing founder Qora, who posted that he regrets not having the time to work on it now but hopes to return in the future.


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The QORA team: from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881230.msg10877790#msg10877790
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Founder
Qora

Core Developers
Vrontis
Skerberus
scriptmastr - mobile developer

Core Contributors
vbcs - AT developer / maintainer
ca333 - Security expert - external support

Marketing and support
twistelaar - community management
agran - block explorer developer
dzarmush - graphics designer
Cyberian Forest - marketing / community updates
twospirit - marketing / community updates
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There is now a new, redesigned website, there is a new wallet release coming soon which should fix the poloniex exchange's issues, automated transactions are coming, a forum is coming, and there is a community marketing team forming, and a slack group created for planning, which is now active.  QORA is also going to be added to the AlcurEX exchange.

Once a coin worth millions of dollars in the summer of 2014 based on its potential, with just one single dev and no features yet developed, QORA is now worth less than 1/10 of that price with a full team of devs and new features almost ready for release. 

Maybe that sounds kindof like Bitshares right now.  But there is a difference.  QORA has broken out of its downtrend and has begun to rise, with major announcements and good news coming soon.  (Except that literally NO ONE knows about them yet, because the QORA communtiy is absolutely tiny right now, and for months has only be one thread on bitcointalk. 


QORA hit bottom at ~5 satoshis in november (when bitcoins were $400).
After rising to 20 on some good news that the developer was back and was converting the coin to open source, and Automated Transactions were on the way, the price then retested the 5 satoshi level (with bitcoin even lower at 250), this month.  in the aftermath of every terrible thing I mentioned early.  The price held again and has begun to rise.  There is very, very little overhead resistance left, as all the bears already dumped their QORA on bter when it opened, and the true believers have been withdrawing all their coins from the exchanges.  Bter's holdings of QORA have dwindled greatly as there community pulls it all into their wallets to wait. 


I hope that it will be some of us in the Bitshares community that profits the most from this coming rise.  Another undervalued, feature heavy, proof of stake variant coin, that no one knows about.  (And while we gripe that no one knows about Bitshares, there is seriously NO ONE out there who knows about QORA). 


Bitshares is going to be low for a while.  First it needs to break this downtrend and go sideways.  Then it is going to have to retest the bottom, and only after that will it begin to rise.  This is a process that takes months.  We have PTS vesting shares begin dumped, and paid delegates having to sell to pay the bills, and all these things drag Bitshares down.  We are in a consolidation period now, where the Bitshares community is shrinking, and those of us who remain are accumulating larger stakes at low prices.  That process will need to play out.  Downtrends are hard to break, and it will take a lot of new money coming from us months down the line before we absorb all the shares from the bears, and break out again. 

I hope that we can all make some profit off this QORA opportunity, and use it to revive the Bitshares price in the future.  QORA is right now exactly where we wish Bitshares was.  Utterly beaten down (imagine if Bitshares market cap had fallen to $3 million - that is the percentage decline we are talking about).  Found a bottom, begun to rise, and with many positive factors pointing upward again.  And hopefully we can all hold on to some QORA long term as well, and support this deserving but unknown coin.


Note: QORA does not appear on Coinmarketcap anymore because its only exchange now is bter, and CMC no longer counts bter.  Yet another reason it is unknown and undervalued!
If you wish to buy QORA, deposit at bter -> buy QORA -> withdraw QORA.  Do NOT leave it there.  Don't trust bter again for more than 10 minutes, keep your coins in your wallet!
Latest QORA wallet is at: http://qora.org/


(Note: QORA has traded in a recent range of 5 to 7 sats recently.  I expect this to change SOON).

Go Bitshares, and Go QORA!
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