Why BitShares isn't Taking off and What we are doing about it.

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Quote from: Empirical1.2 on April 22, 2015, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on April 22, 2015, 01:19:17 PM
Quote from: xiahui135 on April 22, 2015, 12:03:36 PM
People need digital currency, but they do not need it like this.
It is like in the green energy area, many company died, not because they do not need green energy, but because they just need something to solve a specific problem. Tesla is an example.
In this aspect, ripple do beeter than any other crypo.

Quote from: lastagile on April 22, 2015, 12:47:11 PM
Will never up before the short rule change. . Ridiculous rule


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...what's up with all the random, unsubstantiated pessimism from members of the Chinese community lately?

Things finally seem to be starting to turn around...guess they didn't get the memo.

Both observations are correct. The Chinese are smart.

Until BitAssets 3.0 are introduced, BitAsset adoption is unlikely to increase in the interim, especially as the current BitAssets will be left to die as opposed to being rolled over into the new system. Hence the valuation will likely be constrained barring any other major news.

Using BitAssets to solve specific problems could rapidly increase their adoption.
If they knew the short rule is about to change why wouldnt it get priced in within a few minutes? They didnt buy thus market still doesnt believe in the change or has it not been approved yet thats why we havent taken off?
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Quote from: bytemaster on April 20, 2015, 12:50:17 PM
Quote from: Tuck Fheman on April 20, 2015, 12:44:24 PM
Quote from: liondani on April 12, 2015, 09:38:40 AM
make a stable client,

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It's that simple. I often wonder where BTS would be now if it had kept a small standalone fast wallet around while the behemoth client was worked on and released separately.

Good idea.

A year ago it was.

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Quote from: btswildpig on April 22, 2015, 02:08:58 PM
Quote from: Empirical1.2 on April 22, 2015, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on April 22, 2015, 01:19:17 PM
Quote from: xiahui135 on April 22, 2015, 12:03:36 PM
People need digital currency, but they do not need it like this.
It is like in the green energy area, many company died, not because they do not need green energy, but because they just need something to solve a specific problem. Tesla is an example.
In this aspect, ripple do beeter than any other crypo.

Quote from: lastagile on April 22, 2015, 12:47:11 PM
Will never up before the short rule change. . Ridiculous rule


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...what's up with all the random, unsubstantiated pessimism from members of the Chinese community lately?

Things finally seem to be starting to turn around...guess they didn't get the memo.

Both observations are correct. The Chinese are smart.


These people are thinkers , and directly or indirectly contributed in the "turn around" things  nomoreheroes7 mentioned . It's normal for them to see more problems , because they researched deeper than others .

Many of the active members in the Chinese community are either programmers , lawyers , bankers , professors or economist , and they didn't just buy BTS and wait for good things to happen . They build business around BTS , they build groups to help out users , they use the wallet everyday despite it's a painful experience for some of them ....

It's takes more than a "good news memo" to make them happy .... because these are the people who can offer good news themselves when the time comes .
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Quote from: Empirical1.2 on April 22, 2015, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on April 22, 2015, 01:19:17 PM
Quote from: xiahui135 on April 22, 2015, 12:03:36 PM
People need digital currency, but they do not need it like this.
It is like in the green energy area, many company died, not because they do not need green energy, but because they just need something to solve a specific problem. Tesla is an example.
In this aspect, ripple do beeter than any other crypo.

Quote from: lastagile on April 22, 2015, 12:47:11 PM
Will never up before the short rule change. . Ridiculous rule


从我的 iPhone 发送,使用 Tapatalk

...what's up with all the random, unsubstantiated pessimism from members of the Chinese community lately?

Things finally seem to be starting to turn around...guess they didn't get the memo.

Both observations are correct. The Chinese are smart.


These people are thinkers , and directly or indirectly contributed in the "turn around" things  nomoreheroes7 mentioned . It's normal for them to see more problems , because they researched deeper than others .

Many of the active members in the Chinese community are either programmers , lawyers , bankers , professors or economist , and they didn't just buy BTS and wait for good things to happen . They build business around BTS , they build groups to help out users , they use the wallet everyday despite it's a painful experience for some of them ....

It's takes more than a "good news memo" to make them happy .... because these are the people who can offer good news themselves when the time comes . 
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Quote from: Empirical1.2 on April 22, 2015, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on April 22, 2015, 01:19:17 PM
Quote from: xiahui135 on April 22, 2015, 12:03:36 PM
People need digital currency, but they do not need it like this.
It is like in the green energy area, many company died, not because they do not need green energy, but because they just need something to solve a specific problem. Tesla is an example.
In this aspect, ripple do beeter than any other crypo.

Quote from: lastagile on April 22, 2015, 12:47:11 PM
Will never up before the short rule change. . Ridiculous rule


从我的 iPhone 发送,使用 Tapatalk

...what's up with all the random, unsubstantiated pessimism from members of the Chinese community lately?

Things finally seem to be starting to turn around...guess they didn't get the memo.

Both observations are correct. The Chinese are smart.

If I'm bad guy, and I have 1 million USD. I want BTS price keep falling down.
What I need to do is, change all my money to BITUSD, Then wait the monthly expire of short order. I'll hold all my BITUSD until we have no enough shorter, the expired short order have to get the BITUSD to cover. Shorter need to sell BTS to get BITUSD, while all the BITUSD is hold by me.This will keep the price falling. 

As a bad guy, I'll lose nothing, while earn some interesting.

I think the rule need be changed. The one hold BITUSD should pay people short for them.

In an bank I borrow money, and I can use the money to do more meaningful things and pay interesting.
In BTS, I short BTS to get BITUSD, but I can not use the BITUSD, other people get my BITUSD, and use BITUSD, and I have to pay the interesting to him. What a fuck???

BM, how u come up this ideal to make BTS as an bank? that is ridiculous.

BITUSD is for trade, not for people to hold. I'd like suggest people who short, set interesting to 0.

Empirical1.2

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Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on April 22, 2015, 01:19:17 PM
Quote from: xiahui135 on April 22, 2015, 12:03:36 PM
People need digital currency, but they do not need it like this.
It is like in the green energy area, many company died, not because they do not need green energy, but because they just need something to solve a specific problem. Tesla is an example.
In this aspect, ripple do beeter than any other crypo.

Quote from: lastagile on April 22, 2015, 12:47:11 PM
Will never up before the short rule change. . Ridiculous rule


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...what's up with all the random, unsubstantiated pessimism from members of the Chinese community lately?

Things finally seem to be starting to turn around...guess they didn't get the memo.

Both observations are correct. The Chinese are smart.

Until BitAssets 3.0 are introduced, BitAsset adoption is unlikely to increase in the interim, especially as the current BitAssets will be left to die as opposed to being rolled over into the new system. Hence the valuation will likely be constrained barring any other major news.

Using BitAssets to solve specific problems could rapidly increase their adoption. 
If you want to take the island burn the boats

nomoreheroes7

Quote from: xiahui135 on April 22, 2015, 12:03:36 PM
People need digital currency, but they do not need it like this.
It is like in the green energy area, many company died, not because they do not need green energy, but because they just need something to solve a specific problem. Tesla is an example.
In this aspect, ripple do beeter than any other crypo.

Quote from: lastagile on April 22, 2015, 12:47:11 PM
Will never up before the short rule change. . Ridiculous rule


从我的 iPhone 发送,使用 Tapatalk

...what's up with all the random, unsubstantiated pessimism from members of the Chinese community lately?

Things finally seem to be starting to turn around...guess they didn't get the memo.

lastagile

Will never up before the short rule change. . Ridiculous rule


从我的 iPhone 发送,使用 Tapatalk

xiahui135

People need digital currency, but they do not need it like this.
It is like in the green energy area, many company died, not because they do not need green energy, but because they just need something to solve a specific problem. Tesla is an example.
In this aspect, ripple do beeter than any other crypo.

xiahui135


clayop

Quote from: favdesu on April 22, 2015, 05:19:10 AM
Quote from: Shentist on April 20, 2015, 09:00:29 PM
1. Get rid of the Sync problems. It is scary for none technical people
2. Reduce the Sync time - maybe the wallet can already download after i started my Computer.
3. After starting the Wallet the Exchange needs far to long to start - reduce the time!

To make it short - make it fools proof to begin and in my opinion time is the most valuable commodity we should go for! So, we should save the users more time!

1+2 agree, also the re-index times are horrible

3 - 0.9 was lightning fast on loading the exchange. hope that was intentional :)

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Quote from: Shentist on April 20, 2015, 09:00:29 PM
1. Get rid of the Sync problems. It is scary for none technical people
2. Reduce the Sync time - maybe the wallet can already download after i started my Computer.
3. After starting the Wallet the Exchange needs far to long to start - reduce the time!

To make it short - make it fools proof to begin and in my opinion time is the most valuable commodity we should go for! So, we should save the users more time!

1+2 agree, also the re-index times are horrible

3 - 0.9 was lightning fast on loading the exchange. hope that was intentional :)
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Quote from: clayop on April 21, 2015, 10:52:01 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on April 21, 2015, 10:44:17 PM
I am more excited than I have ever been about BTS and its potential... expect some major, game changing, news this summer.

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