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Offline rgcrypto

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What does everyone think about the analogy presented in the podcast?

The Programmers are the Legislator in the crypto space. They code the LAW under which every actor will behave within a given system.
The Miners are the Executive Branch which are the one who will vote which fork is the right one.
In Bitcoin, the holder of the coin don't have much of a say on what's going on other than by lobbying.

If I understand correctly, the voting power in BitShares is to the stakeholder. But right now, when I vote, I don't feel like I am voting to keep the devs in check and make sure the core protocol is securing the life, liberty and property of everyone involve(keeping the legislator in check) but rather on which business are going to receive a subsidy from the Bishares community.

I am getting something wrong?

Can I vote on what features will be added to the core protocol as a Stakeholder?

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...and here we all are sobbing like babies :D

It would be nice instead to have a simple set of milestones to point at. Something simple like http://maidsafe.net/roadmap would be ideal.

Milestones; a list of what is unique; coupled with both a mission statement and a vision statement. I don't know, why we don't have those already - front and centre. There's no point in pulling punches in a competitive market. Perhaps it doesn't matter and the market caps are an illusion but it would be nice to make the most of simple opportunities where there exist.

We are preparing a list of milestones with achievable dates.

I like the idea of appeasing our fellow early adopters with a roadmap and marketing it to others.  However, it's a fine line to create a roadmap that cannot pigeon hole developers nor reveal the competitive edge. Anything else is taking on a large risk.



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...and here we all are sobbing like babies :D

It would be nice instead to have a simple set of milestones to point at. Something simple like http://maidsafe.net/roadmap would be ideal.

Milestones; a list of what is unique; coupled with both a mission statement and a vision statement. I don't know, why we don't have those already - front and centre. There's no point in pulling punches in a competitive market. Perhaps it doesn't matter and the market caps are an illusion but it would be nice to make the most of simple opportunities where there exist.

We are preparing a list of milestones with achievable dates.

Finally!  +5%

 +5% Very good news
+5% this needs a bump!
Ive been watching that roadmap and its been on standstill since January. So I dont think its a good idea. (Things happen between the time you create the roadmap and the achievement of them...making them irrelevant)

I have always looked at it this way too...
It is in some ways good to have a team interested in pivoting. ..as long as the changes don't fundamentally change Bitshares.
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...and here we all are sobbing like babies :D

It would be nice instead to have a simple set of milestones to point at. Something simple like http://maidsafe.net/roadmap would be ideal.

Milestones; a list of what is unique; coupled with both a mission statement and a vision statement. I don't know, why we don't have those already - front and centre. There's no point in pulling punches in a competitive market. Perhaps it doesn't matter and the market caps are an illusion but it would be nice to make the most of simple opportunities where there exist.

We are preparing a list of milestones with achievable dates.

Finally!  +5%

 +5% Very good news
+5% this needs a bump!
Ive been watching that roadmap and its been on standstill since January. So I dont think its a good idea. (Things happen between the time you create the roadmap and the achievement of them...making them irrelevant)

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Excellent.  I cant wait to see the realistic roadmap.   This clarity should help turn the market around. 
We also need to get a chinese translation of it.
Roger that, I can put all the translations together with my other open source docs in the Marketing thread. BM?

I am pumped to hear about the translations btw ken.  It is hugely beneficial.  Max and Edilliam have done a great job. 
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Excellent.  I cant wait to see the realistic roadmap.   This clarity should help turn the market around. 
We also need to get a chinese translation of it.
Roger that, I can put all the translations together with my other open source docs in the Marketing thread. BM?
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Excellent.  I cant wait to see the realistic roadmap.   This clarity should help turn the market around. 
We also need to get a chinese translation of it.

Paid writers on BTS.hk will provide translation articles as usual .

But I doubt some news can turn the trend around  .... no matter how good they will be . Trend is trend , it'll shift base on market rules like in the stock market (just like every rising wave of Bitcoin , we all think it's trigger by some sort of event , but it's not . ) . Good news is just the noise that people think it's responsible for changing the trend . It's quite simple , when the buying power is greater than the selling power , the trend will turn around . And the market players will choose what every good news at that time to paint at it .

On a rising trend , everything will be great news ..... I still remembered when the shoping-cart plugin developer released the test code ...it was read as a major good news back then and "caused" the price to rise up . Of course now we know better , it just happened at the exact timing .
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The big money, fulfillment of ideals, rocket to the moon, whatever you want to call it, does not lay in the crypto space. Since the only metric we have is the relative share price vs other crypto wannabees  on CMC, BTC38, BTER, Yubi, etc. we panic when our elevator is falling faster than the ones next to us.

This is all trying to predict which drop of wet paint will fall quickest on the wall when what we really need to look at is the Real Estate market that our wall exists in.

To quote Stan quoting Ruegger, "You need to think bigger, Pinky!"

I do not get it. We should talk. You must be consuming drinks with a red/pink colour.

Are you also going to church besides quoting 'Pinky'.... it might be potentially dangerous...call me at once!

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The big money, fulfillment of ideals, rocket to the moon, whatever you want to call it, does not lay in the crypto space. Since the only metric we have is the relative share price vs other crypto wannabees  on CMC, BTC38, BTER, Yubi, etc. we panic when our elevator is falling faster than the ones next to us.

This is all trying to predict which drop of wet paint will fall quickest on the wall when what we really need to look at is the Real Estate market that our wall exists in.

To quote Stan quoting Ruegger, "You need to think bigger, Pinky!"
« Last Edit: April 29, 2015, 03:58:41 am by Riverhead »

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Excellent.  I cant wait to see the realistic roadmap.   This clarity should help turn the market around. 
We also need to get a chinese translation of it.
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...and here we all are sobbing like babies :D

It would be nice instead to have a simple set of milestones to point at. Something simple like http://maidsafe.net/roadmap would be ideal.

Milestones; a list of what is unique; coupled with both a mission statement and a vision statement. I don't know, why we don't have those already - front and centre. There's no point in pulling punches in a competitive market. Perhaps it doesn't matter and the market caps are an illusion but it would be nice to make the most of simple opportunities where there exist.

We are preparing a list of milestones with achievable dates.

Finally!  +5%

 +5% Very good news
+5% this needs a bump!
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+5% for the roadmap!!

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...and here we all are sobbing like babies :D

It would be nice instead to have a simple set of milestones to point at. Something simple like http://maidsafe.net/roadmap would be ideal.

Milestones; a list of what is unique; coupled with both a mission statement and a vision statement. I don't know, why we don't have those already - front and centre. There's no point in pulling punches in a competitive market. Perhaps it doesn't matter and the market caps are an illusion but it would be nice to make the most of simple opportunities where there exist.

We are preparing a list of milestones with achievable dates.

Finally!  +5%