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Offline BunkerChain Labs

BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« on: May 26, 2015, 02:56:59 PM »



Check this out... yesterday it took 231+ million BTS to get into the 101

Today it suddenly DROPPED by over 50 million BTS down to 181+ million

Now we have 2 delegates in the 101 that DON'T EVEN HAVE SERVERS RUNNING!!!

Meanwhile.. I got http://vote.bunkermining.com going with SIX SOLID DELEGATES that are NUKE PROOF and are ready to get to work TODAY to grow BitShares in the crypto space.

It's one thing to have delegates be questioned about how much it is they are doing, but for delegates WITHOUT EVEN SERVERS to get voted in while we sit in 'standby' is just beyond me.

Something very strange is going on.

If you have votes for d1.yunbi and d2.yunbi I urge you to take them out.. and vote for:

minebts1.bunkermining-com
minebts2.bunkermining-com
minebts3.bunkermining-com
minebts4.bunkermining-com
minebts5.bunkermining-com
minebts6.bunkermining-com

We are eventually going to have witnesses, delegates, and workers split up.. but for now.. delegates witnesses and workers are just delegates..

Lets get the BitShares 101 REALLY WORKING FOR BITSHARES! VOTE!
« Last Edit: May 26, 2015, 09:47:49 PM by DataSecurityNode »
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Re: BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2015, 03:14:52 PM »
How can the amount of BTS needed to vote into the 101 decrease?
I've also been wondering how votes are calculated, what happens with stake that doesn't vote? Is it included?

Is there a ELI5 on all the different ways to vote?
I'm not sure what all the thumbs up and thumbs down mean, and what 'As my Delegates Recommend' means when sending a transaction.

To vote, the client needs to be made aware of which delegates you wish to vote for and then a transaction must be made (to yourself) for the vote to be counted.
Using the console:
Open the client and enter password.
Go to top right of the window and click the drop down arrow next to your account name.
Click advanced.
Click console (top left).
To approve the delegate "Chronos", type "approve chronos 1" and press enter.
The console should read-out a message
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>> approve chronos 1

{
  "index": ###,
  "name": "chronos",
  "approval": 1,
  "custom_data": {}
}

Is there an easier way to do this?
I've tried using the thumbs up/down before but I've never been able to tell if it actually voted correctly.
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Re: BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2015, 03:17:23 PM »
How can the amount of BTS needed to vote into the 101 decrease?

As far as I know collateral doesn't count towards your votes. I think this is changing. but for now if someone with millions of BTS did a large short it could reduce the number of voting shares by a noticeable amount.
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Offline BunkerChain Labs

Re: BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2015, 03:22:39 PM »
How can the amount of BTS needed to vote into the 101 decrease?

As far as I know collateral doesn't count towards your votes. I think this is changing. but for now if someone with millions of BTS did a large short it could reduce the number of voting shares by a noticeable amount.

Is it possible to look to the markets to see if such a sizable movement happened? I am sure it would stick out like a sore thumb in a list of orders.
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Re: BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2015, 04:28:32 PM »
How can the amount of BTS needed to vote into the 101 decrease?

As far as I know collateral doesn't count towards your votes. I think this is changing. but for now if someone with millions of BTS did a large short it could reduce the number of voting shares by a noticeable amount.

Yes, what DSN said. This should be easy to find in bsb.

The two biggest transactions could find were 25x,xxx & 11,xxx,xxx : http://bitsharesblocks.com/blocks/block?id=2639679
« Last Edit: May 26, 2015, 04:33:21 PM by Thom »

Offline phillyguy

Re: BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2015, 04:32:25 PM »
Is it possible that Yunbi is doing some market manipulation and then voting themselves into the top 101?

Shouldn't be too hard to vote them out correct?

Would really like to see DSN and Chronos voted in ASAP.
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Re: BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2015, 04:42:36 PM »
Hey guys, dposhub.org will go a long way towards helping everyone keep track of delegates and their activities. Check out our progress report in the May NullStreet Journal, and our delegate thread: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15832.0.html

And please vote for our delegate!
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Re: BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2015, 04:45:03 PM »
Hey guys, dposhub.org will go a long way towards helping everyone keep track of delegates and their activities. Check out our progress report in the May NullStreet Journal, and our delegate thread: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15832.0.html

And please vote for our delegate!

Voted, thanks.
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Re: BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2015, 04:55:53 PM »
@phillyguy, @favdesu, Thanks for your support!
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Re: BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2015, 05:49:18 PM »
I remember something like this happened 2-3 months ago as well.  I think it was due to an exchange accidentally using an old delegate slate.
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Offline svk

Re: BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2015, 06:58:18 PM »
I remember something like this happened 2-3 months ago as well.  I think it was due to an exchange accidentally using an old delegate slate.
Yea it was btc38 voting with their cold storage, they subsequently withdrew all their votes except for market.cn.group101, which is why they're #1
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Re: BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2015, 08:02:45 PM »


Check this out... yesterday it took 231+ million BTS to get into the 101

Today it suddenly DROPPED by over 60 million BTS down to 181+ million

Now we have 2 delegates in the 101 that DON'T EVEN HAVE SERVERS RUNNING!!!


Lol....the irony...this is ridiculous.
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Re: BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2015, 08:27:55 PM »
thanks for pointing this out

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Re: BAD DELEGATES VOTED IN OVERNIGHT?!?!
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2015, 08:31:50 PM »
I'd like to point out that the fact that whenever things like this happen, they get corrected within 24 hours, means that voters are NOT apathetic.  We do care.
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