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Even if the people from Cripti community are honestly helping Corona, which I believe they are if they have showed interested, that doesn't mean Corona doesn't have a hidden agenda. They could be played as well, trying to bring more credibility to the project. I'm really sorry if this is legit, but honestly, there are multiple red flags.

From reddit: "I can tell you that if it were a scam, it would be quite elaborate and not necessarily worth the amount of trouble that has gone into it. He has had countless discussions with myself and other members of the team to prepare for this launch and I honestly believe he has invested a lot of time to get to this point. I'm not saying no scammer has ever put time into a con before, but I don't get that kind of feeling from him. " - Matthew Cox of Crypti board

Remember Neo and Bee? That scam company that had key bitcoin figureheads (Andreas Antonopoulos, Tuur Demeester) in advisor roles? They opened a store in Cyprus, ran TV ads, had press releases and openings, and the owner disappeared. Lots of money just disappeared. The employees of the retail store were not even paid for their time.

Corona could be legit, but after having the experience of observing the evolution of multiple scam companies in the past  (Active Mining Company, Neo/Bee), it seems that there are definitely similarities.

The other thing to think about, how do we know that these usernames are actually the people that they say they are?

If we allow them to vet themselves they should be happy to.  It helps them build a good reputation faster.  :)
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IMO SCAM 

It would be be great if some of the dev team of corona for example Mike Doty or Stas Oskin would approve his participation .. thx

I, Mike Doty, am only on Crypti. I am not involved with Corona. We have pursued a partnership with Corona for dapp development, and as a result, Matt and Stas have served as advisors with Corona.

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i just not understand why.. maybe there is a copyright issue with Corona Extra ... ^^

or they are at Run Mode

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i just not understand why.. maybe there is a copyright issue with Corona Extra ... ^^
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The other thing to think about, how do we know that these usernames are actually the people that they say they are?

You are welcome to PM me or GreXX on Bitcointalk for a verification.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2015, 11:20:54 pm by SyRenity »

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For the record Neo and Bee was in Cyprus not Greece. Different people different countries.. ;).. The only common thing is that Cypriots speak some kind of Greek in a funny musical accent

 +5% Got that correction in right before you made your comment!
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For the record Neo and Bee was in Cyprus not Greece. Different people different countries.. ;).. The only common thing is that Cypriots speak some kind of Greek in a funny musical accent

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Even if the people from Cripti community are honestly helping Corona, which I believe they are if they have showed interested, that doesn't mean Corona doesn't have a hidden agenda. They could be played as well, trying to bring more credibility to the project. I'm really sorry if this is legit, but honestly, there are multiple red flags.

From reddit: "I can tell you that if it were a scam, it would be quite elaborate and not necessarily worth the amount of trouble that has gone into it. He has had countless discussions with myself and other members of the team to prepare for this launch and I honestly believe he has invested a lot of time to get to this point. I'm not saying no scammer has ever put time into a con before, but I don't get that kind of feeling from him. " - Matthew Cox of Crypti board

Remember Neo and Bee? That scam company that had key bitcoin figureheads (Andreas Antonopoulos, Tuur Demeester) in advisor roles? They opened a store in Cyprus, ran TV ads, had press releases and openings, and the owner disappeared. Lots of money just disappeared. The employees of the retail store were not even paid for their time.

Corona could be legit, but after having the experience of observing the evolution of multiple scam companies in the past  (Active Mining Company, Neo/Bee), it seems that there are definitely similarities.

The other thing to think about, how do we know that these usernames are actually the people that they say they are?
« Last Edit: June 02, 2015, 07:24:18 pm by nicejeans »
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Even if the people from Cripti community are honestly helping Corona, which I believe they are if they have showed interested, that doesn't mean Corona doesn't have a hidden agenda. They could be played as well, trying to bring more credibility to the project. I'm really sorry if this is legit, but honestly, there are multiple red flags.
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IMO SCAM 

It would be be great if some of the dev team of corona for example Mike Doty or Stas Oskin would approve his participation .. thx

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/384ga9/scamtoshi_warning_corona_dapp_development_network/crso7l4

Crypti is a real project and we consist of honest people. :)

Welcome Max, yes pls don't see this as an offense to your community!
I'm not claminung something shady on your side! I just noticed that 2 Devs mentioned on Corona site also working in your team!
So maybet they would be able to bring light into the dark here :) and they would be able to confirm that they are also participating on CORONA network..

Pls excuse if it sounds like i mentioned crypti.me in same line .. that was not my intend!
BTW- @Max, you're german also, right?  Moinsen   :)

Hey cass,
I hope everything is clear now. Stas personally came to correct the issue. :)

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Stats oskin ... Dev for corona.. is also working for getgems.org like it seems through a img search via google! So we could proof this easily of he is really on this project ... worth a try?

To be fully clear on this, not me (Stas) nor GreXX (Matt), nor anyone of the Crypti team are working on Corona as developers, but merely as an external advisers.

We already asked Daniel to clearly label us as such on his website.

I also welcome everyone to read Matt's great clarification on this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/384ga9/scamtoshi_warning_corona_dapp_development_network/crso7l4


The team section on our website was not completely clear regarding advisory roles, general skill sets were listed instead.
We are in the process of fixing this. Everything Stas says is true.

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Stats oskin ... Dev for corona.. is also working for getgems.org like it seems through a img search via google! So we could proof this easily of he is really on this project ... worth a try?

To be fully clear on this, not me (Stas) nor GreXX (Matt), nor anyone of the Crypti team are working on Corona as developers, but merely as an external advisers.

We already asked Daniel to clearly label us as such on his website.

I also welcome everyone to read Matt's great clarification on this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/384ga9/scamtoshi_warning_corona_dapp_development_network/crso7l4
« Last Edit: June 02, 2015, 03:11:07 pm by SyRenity »

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IMO SCAM 

It would be be great if some of the dev team of corona for example Mike Doty or Stas Oskin would approve his participation .. thx

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/384ga9/scamtoshi_warning_corona_dapp_development_network/crso7l4

Crypti is a real project and we consist of honest people. :)

Welcome Max, yes pls don't see this as an offense to your community!
I'm not claminung something shady on your side! I just noticed that 2 Devs mentioned on Corona site also working in your team!
So maybet they would be able to bring light into the dark here :) and they would be able to confirm that they are also participating on CORONA network..

Pls excuse if it sounds like i mentioned crypti.me in same line .. that was not my intend!
BTW- @Max, you're german also, right?  Moinsen   :)
« Last Edit: June 02, 2015, 02:55:21 pm by cass »
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It would be be great if some of the dev team of corona for example Mike Doty or Stas Oskin would approve his participation .. thx

Did you mean the dev team of Crypti authenticating someones' participation. I'm sorry, not clear on the suggestion.

Nope i'm just saying the 2 of the devs mentioned on corona site also working for crypti.me ... ! So they could approve, their work for corona!

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> Hybrid Proof of Participation

sounds like something Josh Garza of Paycoin would make up.  ::)

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It would be be great if some of the dev team of corona for example Mike Doty or Stas Oskin would approve his participation .. thx

Did you mean the dev team of Crypti authenticating someones' participation. I'm sorry, not clear on the suggestion.

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IMO SCAM 

It would be be great if some of the dev team of corona for example Mike Doty or Stas Oskin would approve his participation .. thx

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/384ga9/scamtoshi_warning_corona_dapp_development_network/crso7l4

Crypti is a real project and we consist of honest people. :)

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Can somebody please explain the increasing frequency of positive development announcements?

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IMO SCAM - skype contact blocked!

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It would be be great if some of the dev team of corona for example Mike Doty or Stas Oskin would approve his participation .. thx



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Stats oskin ... Dev for corona.. is also working for getgems.org like it seems through a img search via google! So we could proof this easily of he is really on this project ... worth a try?
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Yes, absolutely seems like a scam to me. Especially their methods of advertising in nearly every applicable crypto forum/subreddit. Social hacking, they try to make crypto users feel good about their particular crypto especially in this bearish phase.
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thanks for reporting  +5% .. have to investigate
Be careful!!
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Warning. I guess everyone should read this and do his own research before. May be right, may be wrong

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/384ga9/scamtoshi_warning_corona_dapp_development_network/

Their founder is listed as "Daniel Greene", who claims to have been a blockchain entrepreneur the past few years. The Daniel Greene identity hasn't existed before Corona online from as far as public records can tell. There is no trace of an actual identity, only a LinkedIn (says 9 months with Coronaz) and AngelList (says 11 months with Coronaz) page which look very faked. In fact, the team was kept anonymous at launch and for weeks after, until users on BitcoinTalk.org started asking more and more questions about the teams identities.

In a press release, Daniel Greene even lists a contact number as "555" -- known fake phone numbers. (1-202-555-0156) - link. Would be a great “fall guy” for some of them to run away with the money. I'm pretty convinced Daniel Greene is a made up alias by the team.

There is zero documentation anywhere about Corona being a registered company, who owns it, anything. From the Linkedin, it looks like Daniel Greene is supposed to be from Thailand. There is no proof anywhere of who owns this company, who owns the money, who will be spending it, etc.

Their domain is registered anonymously using a Panama registrar.

Self moderated Bitcointalk thread - meaning they can delete any negative or questionable comments. My reason for posting to Reddit.

Many of their developers are previous alt-coin developers, with histories of running them into the ground and profiting from it.



would be good to see their arguments.
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Welcome Daniel!
I read the Bitcoin Magazin and the Coindesk Artile on Corona.
Two questions:
1) What blockchain will the dapps run on that where funded through Corona?
2) Will a dapp funded by corona only be usable by its funders?

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Just checked out Corona and seems very interesting, welcome to the community! It looks indeed as a promising collaboration.
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Welcome and  +5%. Looks very promising.

Sounds very interesting however if Coronaz could be also traded in Bitshares platform and not only in counterparty it would certainly adopt more users and more support from this community. ;)

Eventually it will be traded on Bitshares, we are building a cross-platform token gateway.

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Welcome and  +5%. Looks very promising.

Sounds very interesting however if Coronaz could be also traded in Bitshares platform and not only in counterparty it would certainly adopt more users and more support from this community. ;)

Offline BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode

Can somebody please explain the increasing frequency of positive development announcements?

It all happened right when one delegate from http://vote.bunkermining.com got elected into the 101.

Wait till the other 5 get voted in! That's when the party gets started! :)
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Can somebody please explain the increasing frequency of positive development announcements?

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Offline fuzzy

Great to see you guys here.  I saw your article on cointelegraph and was intrigued.  Do you plan on using the bitshares asset exchange for any crowd funding ops?

Hey !!

We've built our own crowdfunding platform, Bitshares integrated.

So you built a smart contract crowdfund platform integrated with BitShares?! WOW!  +5%

Welcome to the community!

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Great to see you guys here.  I saw your article on cointelegraph and was intrigued.  Do you plan on using the bitshares asset exchange for any crowd funding ops?

Hey !!

We've built our own crowdfunding platform, Bitshares integrated.

So you built a smart contract crowdfund platform integrated with BitShares?! WOW!  +5%

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Great to see you guys here.  I saw your article on cointelegraph and was intrigued.  Do you plan on using the bitshares asset exchange for any crowd funding ops?

Hey !!

We've built our own crowdfunding platform, Bitshares integrated.
 

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Great to see you guys here.  I saw your article on cointelegraph and was intrigued.  Do you plan on using the bitshares asset exchange for any crowd funding ops?

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Hi Daniel, welcome! Thank you for your highly gracious introduction. I will certainly check out corona....sounds very interesting. Here's to innovation & collaboration!  +5%

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Hello Bitshares!
My name is Daniel Greene and I am the founder of the Corona Decentralized Application Development Network (https://corona.info). We are a highly collaborative platform agnostic development network promoting and funding the building of decentralized applications and services.
We recognize Bitshares as one of the leading blockchain technology platforms and invites its community and developers to join the Corona network and collaborate towards building the next generation of decentralized financial applications. Dapp projects leveraging Bitshares technology are welcome to apply for funding through our website and share in the discussion of building a decentralized economy.
Recently announced, we are launching a fundraiser to help raise awareness of decentralization technology amongst the wider developer communities and contributions will help to fund Dapp projects and bootstrap a vibrant eco-system of crypto-enthusiasts. We have developed a special crypto crowdfunding model that allows anyone to participate with Bitshares and dozens of other cryptocoins.
Come share in our resources, and join our mission of bringing smart contract and blockchain technology to the masses.
Visit our website for much more information: https://corona.info

Daniel Greene
Founder, Corona Network