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Started by bytemaster, June 08, 2015, 07:26:16 PM

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BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode

@bytemaster --- I am going to repost my question just in case it got missed, because it's critical.

It's my understanding now that for the next 3 month or so until 2.0 is implimented any and all refers made amount to NO REFERS.


In other words, refers up to June 8th got a free membership of $100 value, but from June 8th to sometime in September.. any activities that will refer new users after the implementation of 2.0 will be a TOTAL LOSS for the referrer.

So say I am about to engage in projects that refers thousands to possibly tens of thousands of new users reaching the internet marketing space in particular.

My plans included getting a refer credit of some kind with the previous system because it was in good faith planned that these would be honored in some way.. even though we didn't know what it would amount to.

Now if there is no bridge between now and the next 3 months where new users being referred are being credited to the referrers, we got problems.

Entire businesses that planned around this are completely thrown off.

Nobody is going to refer anybody to bitshares from now and the next 3 months.

If there is some technical way to honor the referrs, like even if we have to setup our own faucet for those we refer?





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mint chocolate chip

Quote from: triox on June 09, 2015, 09:06:12 PM
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https://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard

Well, that's a bummer! I launched bitaktywa.pl in January and even paid for an ad on a libertarian/finance community. It has over a hundred hits and as it turns out not one conversion...  :'(
As it turned out converting users was extremely hard, the web wallet should make for a higher conversion rate on clickthroughs I would think.

If we are credited with the specific users we referred, would we be elgible for the cut of the fees those users produces going fwd ?
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https://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard

Well, that's a bummer! I launched bitaktywa.pl in January and even paid for an ad on a libertarian/finance community. It has over a hundred hits and as it turns out not one conversion...  :'(

BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode

Quote from: bytemaster on June 09, 2015, 06:59:46 PM
Quote from: DataSecurityNode on June 09, 2015, 06:17:42 PM
I got a question related to my previous question.

Say we refer 10,000+ new users over he next few months.

All those users are going to get moved to 2.0 with their names being bts-username

They will have the opportunity to register their name to the new system within 30 days.

If we are fast enough to get our faucet system setup as a registrar... would those users who move from BTS-username to Username be able to be registered as users WE referred IF they use our faucet... and likewise if they go on to register as members?

I think this would be fair. I understand there is a possibility to lose some.. but at least its not a 100% loss. It would really be up to us to have the proper communication channels with our referrers to direct them then.

So is what I am describing going to be the case? If not, will you consider doing this?

Otherwise for the next 2-3 months everyone we refer with all our projects go completely unrewarded... and when you are talking about these types of numbers that mean a difference of six figures.. I would sooner do nothing for a few months as everyone else will.

If though there will be this gap between going from BTS-user to user where the user can choose a particular registrar and we can capture thm as referrs from there.. that is fair to me.

Thanks

Where does it say there will be an opportunity to claim your name within 30 days?   I thought that was abandoned.

We thought about doing a "manual" referral program over the next 2 months but the cost to implement it would likely exceed the value produced and users would be exposed to 1.0 bugs and 2.0 would be delayed.

Sorry I must have misunderstood that and confused it with premium names.

So then to confirm my original question then.. you are saying until 2.0 is implemented all our refers will be uncounted and amount to nothing.

What if someone setup their own faucet perhaps for new accounts created.. could that somehow make the process of crediting them later possible?

I really like to be clear on this because pretty much every bitshares project I am involved in hinges on this. 



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I*m very happy to be in, yeehaa!

bytemaster

Quote from: DataSecurityNode on June 09, 2015, 06:17:42 PM
I got a question related to my previous question.

Say we refer 10,000+ new users over he next few months.

All those users are going to get moved to 2.0 with their names being bts-username

They will have the opportunity to register their name to the new system within 30 days.

If we are fast enough to get our faucet system setup as a registrar... would those users who move from BTS-username to Username be able to be registered as users WE referred IF they use our faucet... and likewise if they go on to register as members?

I think this would be fair. I understand there is a possibility to lose some.. but at least its not a 100% loss. It would really be up to us to have the proper communication channels with our referrers to direct them then.

So is what I am describing going to be the case? If not, will you consider doing this?

Otherwise for the next 2-3 months everyone we refer with all our projects go completely unrewarded... and when you are talking about these types of numbers that mean a difference of six figures.. I would sooner do nothing for a few months as everyone else will.

If though there will be this gap between going from BTS-user to user where the user can choose a particular registrar and we can capture thm as referrs from there.. that is fair to me.

Thanks

Where does it say there will be an opportunity to claim your name within 30 days?   I thought that was abandoned.

We thought about doing a "manual" referral program over the next 2 months but the cost to implement it would likely exceed the value produced and users would be exposed to 1.0 bugs and 2.0 would be delayed.   
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BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode

I got a question related to my previous question.

Say we refer 10,000+ new users over he next few months.

All those users are going to get moved to 2.0 with their names being bts-username

They will have the opportunity to register their name to the new system within 30 days.

If we are fast enough to get our faucet system setup as a registrar... would those users who move from BTS-username to Username be able to be registered as users WE referred IF they use our faucet... and likewise if they go on to register as members?

I think this would be fair. I understand there is a possibility to lose some.. but at least its not a 100% loss. It would really be up to us to have the proper communication channels with our referrers to direct them then.

So is what I am describing going to be the case? If not, will you consider doing this?

Otherwise for the next 2-3 months everyone we refer with all our projects go completely unrewarded... and when you are talking about these types of numbers that mean a difference of six figures.. I would sooner do nothing for a few months as everyone else will.

If though there will be this gap between going from BTS-user to user where the user can choose a particular registrar and we can capture thm as referrs from there.. that is fair to me.

Thanks
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mf-tzo

awesome I am in  :) and I intend to bring a lot of new people here once bitshares 2 is up and running..Things can only go better from here.
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fav

Quote from: DataSecurityNode on June 09, 2015, 04:34:18 PM
does this mean all our refers for the next few months are worthless?

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BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode

Quote from: nethyb on June 09, 2015, 01:33:55 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on June 08, 2015, 07:26:16 PM
Anyone that participated in the original referral program and converted at least 1 user to create an account prior to June 8th will get a free lifetime membership when we do the upgrade.

Cool, hopefully it includes myself (nethyb) for the initial couple of months of minebitshares referrals ...

I agree this should happen for nethyb and myself... rgcrypto is already there.

My concern now though is.. until this gets launched.. does this mean all our refers for the next few months are worthless?
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infovortice2013

I think should be better 67% for who refer and 33% for bitshares for each suscription. I think 80% is too much.


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cass

Quote from: nethyb on June 09, 2015, 01:43:55 PM
Quote from: favdesu on June 09, 2015, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: nethyb on June 09, 2015, 01:33:55 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on June 08, 2015, 07:26:16 PM
Anyone that participated in the original referral program and converted at least 1 user to create an account prior to June 8th will get a free lifetime membership when we do the upgrade.

Cool, hopefully it includes myself (nethyb) for the initial couple of months of minebitshares referrals ...

https://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard you can check if your ID's on the list

Thanks, but when I setup the initial referrals I used the my delegate www.minebitshares-com (top referrer) rather than my actual trading username nethyb, and have since passed on the delegate to datasecuritynode in his endeavours to take the pool to the next level.

Maybe BM and the team can see their way to providing an honoury lifetime membership to us both, considering we brought in the most referrals  in the old system ;)

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16787.msg214628.html#msg214628

QuoteAnyone that participated in the original referral program and converted at least 1 user to create an account prior to June 8th will get a free lifetime membership when we do the upgrade.
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fav

Quote from: nethyb on June 09, 2015, 01:43:55 PM
Quote from: favdesu on June 09, 2015, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: nethyb on June 09, 2015, 01:33:55 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on June 08, 2015, 07:26:16 PM
Anyone that participated in the original referral program and converted at least 1 user to create an account prior to June 8th will get a free lifetime membership when we do the upgrade.

Cool, hopefully it includes myself (nethyb) for the initial couple of months of minebitshares referrals ...

https://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard you can check if your ID's on the list

Thanks, but when I setup the initial referrals I used the my delegate www.minebitshares-com (top referrer) rather than my actual trading username nethyb, and have since passed on the delegate to datasecuritynode in his endeavours to take the pool to the next level.

Maybe BM and the team can see their way to providing an honoury lifetime membership to us both, considering we brought in the most referrals  in the old system ;)

would be cool, I'd rather have fav upgraded instead of fav-marketing :)
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nethyb

Quote from: favdesu on June 09, 2015, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: nethyb on June 09, 2015, 01:33:55 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on June 08, 2015, 07:26:16 PM
Anyone that participated in the original referral program and converted at least 1 user to create an account prior to June 8th will get a free lifetime membership when we do the upgrade.

Cool, hopefully it includes myself (nethyb) for the initial couple of months of minebitshares referrals ...

https://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard you can check if your ID's on the list

Thanks, but when I setup the initial referrals I used the my delegate www.minebitshares-com (top referrer) rather than my actual trading username nethyb, and have since passed on the delegate to datasecuritynode in his endeavours to take the pool to the next level.

Maybe BM and the team can see their way to providing an honoury lifetime membership to us both, considering we brought in the most referrals  in the old system ;)

profitofthegods

Nice!

I just noticed today that I've got 1 referral on the scoreboard - I hope I got it in time!

fav

Quote from: nethyb on June 09, 2015, 01:33:55 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on June 08, 2015, 07:26:16 PM
Anyone that participated in the original referral program and converted at least 1 user to create an account prior to June 8th will get a free lifetime membership when we do the upgrade.

Cool, hopefully it includes myself (nethyb) for the initial couple of months of minebitshares referrals ...

https://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard you can check if your ID's on the list
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nethyb

Quote from: bytemaster on June 08, 2015, 07:26:16 PM
Anyone that participated in the original referral program and converted at least 1 user to create an account prior to June 8th will get a free lifetime membership when we do the upgrade.

Cool, hopefully it includes myself (nethyb) for the initial couple of months of minebitshares referrals ...

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clayop

Where can I find referral statistics?
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infovortice2013

Quote from: bytemaster on June 08, 2015, 07:26:16 PM
Anyone that participated in the original referral program and converted at least 1 user to create an account prior to June 8th will get a free lifetime membership when we do the upgrade.

accounts done until now, must pay quotas for membership too ? or just for new accounts?

and founder accounts?
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fav

hope it's okay to use this thread for further questions regarding the program.

1. https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/unlockwallet?r=fav-marketing would this be the correct link for webwallet?

2. the internal webwallet should give some hints in regards to naming. just tried it and the faucet gave me a "only cheap names can be registered please choose another one" - BUT the webwallet wouldn't let me add another one until the first is registered.
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cass

Quote from: bitsharesblog.com on June 08, 2015, 08:01:14 PM
Stan mentioned that existing referred users would be grandfathered into the new referral system, is that still the case?

AFAIK yes </wildguess>
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mint chocolate chip

Stan mentioned that existing referred users would be grandfathered into the new referral system, is that still the case?
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xeroc

Too bad no one used my QR-code handouts and tried BitShares yet ..
Seems I am not so good at marketing ..

nomoreheroes7

Ha, sweet! I think I have exactly one referral made! I'll takes it.

Thanks BM!

mint chocolate chip

#2
That is great news!
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bytemaster

Anyone that participated in the original referral program and converted at least 1 user to create an account prior to June 8th will get a free lifetime membership when we do the upgrade.

For the latest updates checkout my blog: [url="http://bytemaster.bitshares.org"]http://bytemaster.bitshares.org[/url]
Anything said on these forums does not constitute an intent to create a legal obligation or contract between myself and anyone else.   These are merely my opinions and I reserve the right to change them at any time.