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Started by cass, June 17, 2015, 09:53:29 AM

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NameNarwhal

Hello, I am the Name Narwhal. It is me who bought a bunch of BTS so that I could register a few accounts.

No, this is not a spam attack, and yes, I am actually interested in these names (and a bunch more). Every single name was chosen to meet "more than 8 characters, or contains no vowels or at least 1 number" - names where it's been announced that they will make it into the new genesis block. I actually spent a lot of time putting together the list of names I'd like (and then finding a way to get the bitshares client to support having more than a couple names).

I believe the BitShares system is the perfect base for a de-centralized DNS system. And I hope to contribute to that process - I have lots of experience with domain names and I'd like to support the community in making the BitShares namespace become more valuable. I'm clearly setting myself up to be interested in having that happen - I'm making an investment into BitShares.

The source for Graphene indicates that it may eventually become possible to use BitShares names as collateral. Think about it - if someone is running a business using a BitShares DNS name (or a future DNS-like system), that name is going to become valuable collateral. And if the system allows them to use it as collateral, the price of BitShares will start to become supported (indirectly) from assets outside of the BitShares system. I think that's extremely powerful and will be very good for BitShares community.

I have a way to - without overly bloating the blockchain - allow people to use their bitshares names for DNS and much more. And I look forward to discussing those ideas with all of you.

No, I don't intend to demand $2000 for the crappiest of names. In fact, for the next few days: if you had an account prior to June 8th, if there is name I have which you would like to own, let me know your name and I'll arrange to give you the private key of the name you want.

So, if the social consensus allows, I'm going to keep spending my BTS buying some more names I'd like to own when BitShares 2.0 is released.

hadrian

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Quote from: bytemaster on June 17, 2015, 05:09:05 PM
The network can handle it and so can graphene.

One thing we can do if the community approves is to only migrate names registered after June 8th if they were registered via faucet.bitshares.org.   

There is no sense in allowing this squatter to bloat the genesis state for $100.

If you want to squat on all names then you can claim them *AFTER* BTS 2 has launched with new pricing.

I agree with fav - i.e. it's best to avoid changing the rules, however, it is aggravating to see someone doing this.

Which is the greater problem - bloat in the genesis state, or the fact that someone is squatting names?

Perhaps another option to consider would be to modify these names in BitShares 2.0, by prepending or appending something, like we are with the premium names? It'd be somewhat less harsh if we modify rather than omit the account names from BitShares 2.0.

edit: I do think it's almost a fundamental problem to retrospectively change the rules when dealing with blockchains. It goes against the grain of a large chunk of the philosophy, and can detract from people's confidence in the 'immutability' side of things. Can we therefore put something in place to prevent the problem from this point forward - some kind of restriction from now on, and let whomever is doing this keep what they have managed to grab up until now?
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mike623317

Quote from: bytemaster on June 17, 2015, 05:09:05 PM
The network can handle it and so can graphene.

One thing we can do if the community approves is to only migrate names registered after June 8th if they were registered via faucet.bitshares.org.   

There is no sense in allowing this squatter to bloat the genesis state for $100.

If you want to squat on all names then you can claim them *AFTER* BTS 2 has launched with new pricing.

Yes  +5%

merivercap

Like basic accounts require at least one number?
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merivercap

Also for 8+ english dictionary word combos maybe we can slightly increase the costs of those compared to random names with at least one number?
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merivercap

Can you give preference to Lifetime and Annual members?
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onceuponatime

Quote from: Empirical1.2 on June 17, 2015, 05:48:45 PM
Quote from: Ander on June 17, 2015, 05:43:40 PM
Quote from: testz on June 17, 2015, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on June 17, 2015, 05:09:05 PM
The network can handle it and so can graphene.

One thing we can do if the community approves is to only migrate names registered after June 8th if they were registered via faucet.bitshares.org.   

There is no sense in allowing this squatter to bloat the genesis state for $100.

If you want to squat on all names then you can claim them *AFTER* BTS 2 has launched with new pricing.

Yes  +5%

I agree.  DNS systems must prevent name squatting.

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Yes.

Murderistic

gotta be a spammer on an SEO play - hoping these get indexed or pass something.  It's weird.

Or someone trying to squat...


Empirical1.2

Quote from: Ander on June 17, 2015, 05:43:40 PM
Quote from: testz on June 17, 2015, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on June 17, 2015, 05:09:05 PM
The network can handle it and so can graphene.

One thing we can do if the community approves is to only migrate names registered after June 8th if they were registered via faucet.bitshares.org.   

There is no sense in allowing this squatter to bloat the genesis state for $100.

If you want to squat on all names then you can claim them *AFTER* BTS 2 has launched with new pricing.

Yes  +5%

I agree.  DNS systems must prevent name squatting.

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Ander

Quote from: testz on June 17, 2015, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on June 17, 2015, 05:09:05 PM
The network can handle it and so can graphene.

One thing we can do if the community approves is to only migrate names registered after June 8th if they were registered via faucet.bitshares.org.   

There is no sense in allowing this squatter to bloat the genesis state for $100.

If you want to squat on all names then you can claim them *AFTER* BTS 2 has launched with new pricing.

Yes  +5%

I agree.  DNS systems must prevent name squatting.
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fav

Quote from: xeroc on June 17, 2015, 05:27:53 PM
Quote from: testz on June 17, 2015, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on June 17, 2015, 05:09:05 PM
The network can handle it and so can graphene.

One thing we can do if the community approves is to only migrate names registered after June 8th if they were registered via faucet.bitshares.org.   

There is no sense in allowing this squatter to bloat the genesis state for $100.

If you want to squat on all names then you can claim them *AFTER* BTS 2 has launched with new pricing.

Yes  +5%
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I don't think you should change the rules now.
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Quote from: bytemaster on June 17, 2015, 05:09:05 PM
The network can handle it and so can graphene.

One thing we can do if the community approves is to only migrate names registered after June 8th if they were registered via faucet.bitshares.org.   

There is no sense in allowing this squatter to bloat the genesis state for $100.

If you want to squat on all names then you can claim them *AFTER* BTS 2 has launched with new pricing.

because "confitures"  +5%  ;)
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xeroc

Quote from: testz on June 17, 2015, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on June 17, 2015, 05:09:05 PM
The network can handle it and so can graphene.

One thing we can do if the community approves is to only migrate names registered after June 8th if they were registered via faucet.bitshares.org.   

There is no sense in allowing this squatter to bloat the genesis state for $100.

If you want to squat on all names then you can claim them *AFTER* BTS 2 has launched with new pricing.

Yes  +5%
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arhag

Quote from: bytemaster on June 17, 2015, 05:09:05 PM
If you want to squat on all names then you can claim them *AFTER* BTS 2 has launched with new pricing.

What is going to be the default values for all of the various fees at the time of genesis?

And can we allow nameless accounts and separate out the fee for creating a new account from the fee(s) of creating a new unique name on the blockchain?

testz

Quote from: bytemaster on June 17, 2015, 05:09:05 PM
The network can handle it and so can graphene.

One thing we can do if the community approves is to only migrate names registered after June 8th if they were registered via faucet.bitshares.org.   

There is no sense in allowing this squatter to bloat the genesis state for $100.

If you want to squat on all names then you can claim them *AFTER* BTS 2 has launched with new pricing.

Yes  +5%