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I would say some of those do more than marketing. For example I see fuzzy as an indispensable asset to BitShares. Given that, although we have ~12M more shares per year, I don't see that as relevant enough to be the reason of these prices. Obviously it would be better if there the amount of new shares was none, but since we're at an early stage, I don't see that being as serious as people were describing in the past.

Actually I was wrong about one delegate that was listed here.

It was brought to my attention that dev-trial.misc.nikolai had nothing to do with the dev pay he was getting. Here is the delegate bid that described it being transparent and temporary:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=12666.0

Last update that was given was in January.. balances were withdrawn till March and then stopped. Then last week over 1/2 a million BTS was taken out and another 100k BTS yesterday. No updates what is going on.

http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegate/earnings?name=dev-trial.misc.nikolai

Perhaps someone can provide some input?

I would like to have some information on this as well. Seems important to me.

IIRC @toast is distributing those funds to core devs and others (like @cass) ..

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I would say some of those do more than marketing. For example I see fuzzy as an indispensable asset to BitShares. Given that, although we have ~12M more shares per year, I don't see that as relevant enough to be the reason of these prices. Obviously it would be better if there the amount of new shares was none, but since we're at an early stage, I don't see that being as serious as people were describing in the past.

Actually I was wrong about one delegate that was listed here.

It was brought to my attention that dev-trial.misc.nikolai had nothing to do with the dev pay he was getting. Here is the delegate bid that described it being transparent and temporary:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=12666.0

Last update that was given was in January.. balances were withdrawn till March and then stopped. Then last week over 1/2 a million BTS was taken out and another 100k BTS yesterday. No updates what is going on.

http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegate/earnings?name=dev-trial.misc.nikolai

Perhaps someone can provide some input?

I would like to have some information on this as well. Seems important to me.

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I think , marketing delegates 's 100% can be changed to 30%
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I would say some of those do more than marketing. For example I see fuzzy as an indispensable asset to BitShares. Given that, although we have ~12M more shares per year, I don't see that as relevant enough to be the reason of these prices. Obviously it would be better if there the amount of new shares was none, but since we're at an early stage, I don't see that being as serious as people were describing in the past.

Actually I was wrong about one delegate that was listed here.

It was brought to my attention that dev-trial.misc.nikolai had nothing to do with the dev pay he was getting. Here is the delegate bid that described it being transparent and temporary:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=12666.0

Last update that was given was in January.. balances were withdrawn till March and then stopped. Then last week over 1/2 a million BTS was taken out and another 100k BTS yesterday. No updates what is going on.

http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegate/earnings?name=dev-trial.misc.nikolai

Perhaps someone can provide some input?
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I would say some of those do more than marketing. For example I see fuzzy as an indispensable asset to BitShares. Given that, although we have ~12M more shares per year, I don't see that as relevant enough to be the reason of these prices. Obviously it would be better if there the amount of new shares was none, but since we're at an early stage, I don't see that being as serious as people were describing in the past.
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Data, how would you call what I do in bussiness words? I hope that I have more than marketing to offer.

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Maybe include these too (though a couple are 're-purposed' or not exactly marketing)

dev-trial.misc.nikolai
delegate.rgcrypto
elmato
www. bts-hk
fund.bitsharesbreakout
fuzzy.beyondbitcoin

So now that we know we are dealing with about 900k BTS a month.. and assume for a second that everyone gets knocked out post 2.0 .. what difference does that makes overall to BTS in terms of 'savings'?
Maybe not a big difference in terms of savings, but over a million shares sold per month hasn't helped the price.

You can take delegate.rgcrypto off the list.. thats part of the minebitshares fold.

Fuzz I don't know if you would consider that marketing.. thats more like community communication services .. like a public broadcaster.

elmato as I recall was a wallet of some kind?

dev-trial.misc.nikolai -- that's toasts dev pay delegate as far as I know.. which has been redirected as far as I know.

Others I don't know enough to comment.
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Maybe include these too (though a couple are 're-purposed' or not exactly marketing)

dev-trial.misc.nikolai
delegate.rgcrypto
elmato
www. bts-hk
fund.bitsharesbreakout
fuzzy.beyondbitcoin

So now that we know we are dealing with about 900k BTS a month.. and assume for a second that everyone gets knocked out post 2.0 .. what difference does that makes overall to BTS in terms of 'savings'?
Maybe not a big difference in terms of savings, but over a million shares sold per month hasn't helped the price.

Offline BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode

Well here are some other 100% marketing related ones:

marketing.methodx
argentina-marketing.matt608
media.bitscape
sollywood.sollars-com
delegate.kencode
provisional.bitscape

You might consider BunkerMining marketing in some respect.. but I consider it a volume builder.

So if we include the one above plus these.. you would be looking at approx 900k BTS per month.

At present market caps.. not really much worth writing home about... which is why when you divide that by 7 it doesn't produce much for each.

However.. I know at least  marketing.methodx is being used for other purposes.. liquidity in the market I believe.

Thats about all I can come up with now.

So now that we know we are dealing with about 900k BTS a month.. and assume for a second that everyone gets knocked out post 2.0 .. what difference does that makes overall to BTS in terms of 'savings'?
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It's been said with the workers system, there will be no need for marketing delegates. How much will BitShares be able to save?  How many marketing delegates are there? Could you list them under pls and mention how much pay they get like this below?

market.cn.group101 - 100%

I'm not saying we don't need marketing, however I'm interested in the numbers.
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