House cleaning

[spartako]

I manage three active 3% delegates: spartako, spartako1, spartako2

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

Chemical, biological, nuclear.. natural disasters.. I got it covered.

Now, if you just had regulatory disasters covered... 

It's in the plans actually:

Something like this: http://www.wikihow.com/Start-Your-Own-Country

I am still tossing around name ideas.. but I do have associates who have been successful in this process.. and have an interest in the bunker.

Perhaps.. The Freedom Bunker Nation.... first Bitshares nation possibly!

[toast]

I manage dev0.nikolai and dev-trial.misc.nikolai
I plan to run a witness node in bts 2

[cass]

del0.cass is managed by helloworld team - 100% - ZN

[Stan]

Chemical, biological, nuclear.. natural disasters.. I got it covered.

Now, if you just had regulatory disasters covered... 

[puppies]

I think most of us have multiple servers spread out throughout the world, as well as synced wallets at home that we could switch block production to.  I think any natural disaster or industrial mishap would quickly be routed around by most witnesses.  An automatic switching script would make this very seamless.

I've recently been working to diversify the hosting companies I use, and would gladly work with other witnesses to ensure that we are not all hosted in the same data center.  I think this would help protect against multiple threats.

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

Btw I wasn't referring to government crackdowns or illuminati or fancy schmanzy stuff like nuclear bombs or emps.

What I was talking about were single points of failure where any Bob the builder with one of them mini diggers could accidentally take out a big percentage of the entire bitshares network.

Happened to me just a couple of days ago where the entire city went offline and without power, just because of one single Bob the Builder mishap.

In short is there a way to identify single points of failure on top of trying and distribute the network just a little across the globe? In case of a nuclear holocaust I'd be all up for joining the bitshares lan-party in your bunker, I'll even bring my own tinfoil so we can fold hats together, but that wasn't what I was talking about.

There's a delegate for that

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=14501.0

In it he gives technicals on how to protect the network.. and yes.. now that he is in the 101 he will continue to work towards its development for 2.0 as well.

I have talked to him about potentially sending some resources towards this from Data Security Node in order to see it implemented.

 

[JoeyD]

Btw I wasn't referring to government crackdowns or illuminati or fancy schmanzy stuff like nuclear bombs or emps.

What I was talking about were single points of failure where any Bob the builder with one of them mini diggers could accidentally take out a big percentage of the entire bitshares network.

Happened to me just a couple of days ago where the entire city went offline and without power, just because of one single Bob the Builder mishap.

In short is there a way to identify single points of failure on top of trying and distribute the network just a little across the globe? In case of a nuclear holocaust I'd be all up for joining the bitshares lan-party in your bunker, I'll even bring my own tinfoil so we can fold hats together, but that wasn't what I was talking about.

[clayop]

I manage delegate-clayop (3%)

I intend to witness for bts2

[CalabiYau]

I manage calabiyau (3%)

You have done a very good job of it.  28,877 blocks generated only 130 missed.  99.55% uptime.  Best percentage in the over 25k club, and 15th in the top 101.

Thank you very much for your appreciation - I learned a lot 

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

Indeed. Nothing paranoid here. It's happening.

Anyway, I chuckled reading about 'paranoid undertones' from the guy who has his servers in fucking bunkers... hehe (just to be clear, I do think it's actually good that someone is doing that.. found it funny, is all)


On a more serious note, anything we can do to diversity the network, we should. It's not just governments, also natural catastrophes, etc. If BitShares reaches critical mass, any such event causing a widespread interruption of the network is very bad news. I'm all for decentralizing as much as possible.

Chemical, biological, nuclear.. natural disasters.. I got it covered.

It should be a comfort that at present roughly 5% of the network is nuke proof... or to be more realistic of a catastrophic natural disaster threat to the network.. protected against solar flares.. the EMP from those events could/would wipe all data and your backups. Everything in the bunker, particularly the double steel encased copper beryllium lined node would be fine and continue to keep all your BTS bitGOLD etc safe.

Corporate espionage was mentioned.. EMP bombs would be and effective weapon against the network.. though the collateral damage to others data would to huge.. companies operating in their own shareholders interest though tend to not care... this ventures into paranoid a bit.. but as conditions in the world change where things like water and clean air and other resources tighten up.. this might become a new trend in attacks. Again though.. bunker is protected.

Anyways.. so far we got only a handful that have checked in.. where is everyone else?

[karnal]

Indeed. Nothing paranoid here. It's happening.

Anyway, I chuckled reading about 'paranoid undertones' from the guy who has his servers in fucking bunkers... hehe (just to be clear, I do think it's actually good that someone is doing that.. found it funny, is all)


On a more serious note, anything we can do to diversity the network, we should. It's not just governments, also natural catastrophes, etc. If BitShares reaches critical mass, any such event causing a widespread interruption of the network is very bad news. I'm all for decentralizing as much as possible.

[Permie]

I am concerned with what appears to be a discussion descending into a strawman discussion with real world understand vs. General ideas of how distribution or decentralized can or should operate... I agree  that diversity is good and thus why I have planned for it.. but the paranoid undertones to where this is going is entering tinfoil hat space and to some looking on make it appear as though we are fighting an active threat of shutdown when real it is a strawman.

I don't know.. but how many bitcoin nodes were taken down by governments corporations or the illuminati?

It may very well be zero.

Governments are not the only entity with reason to decipher supposedly private transactions.
BitShares is designed for businesses, how many potential-businesses will be put off by the potential of corporate espionage?

I'm not sure if this is a strawman - I don't think such a threat was claimed to exist right now.
The success of bts depends on the decisions made now and in the future.
I don't think discussing the present and future security/privacy of Witnesses' and users of bts is unwarranted.
The fact is that we don't know what threats bitshares will face, if any.
Fail to prepare and prepare to fail.

I understand your aversion to descending into tinfoil hattery but I don't think anything has been said here that cannot be backed by evidence of some kind.
Almost everyone will object to being told that they are under control, but if you can't leave the country without a passport or start a business without permission then that is exactly what is happening.
Some will say such control is necessary, but that does not make it any less controlling.

Evidence of NSA spying just adds to that

What we have today is the physical (did you mean online?) equivalent of having a cop following you all the time, recording where you are, what you say, what you read, what you think, who do you talk to, how often you do, and about what.

Sounds scary. Because it is.
Doesn't make it untrue or over-the-top to say so

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

I am concerned with what appears to be a discussion descending into a strawman discussion with real world understand vs. General ideas of how distribution or decentralized can or should operate... I agree  that diversity is good and thus why I have planned for it.. but the paranoid undertones to where this is going is entering tinfoil hat space and to some looking on make it appear as though we are fighting an active threat of shutdown when real it is a strawman.

I don't know.. but how many bitcoin nodes were taken down by governments corporations or the illuminati?

[karnal]

What is perfection anyway ? If you do it from a public place after randomizing your mac while running tails with electrum through Tor, that seems pretty efficient to me.

If it worked for Snowden, chances are it'll work for you and me.



I agree about privacy and the crowd. Unfortunately the privacy-aware among us are essentially painting big red targets over our own heads right now. There are some 'normal' people using things like Tor, but we need more, way more.

I've often wondered why the average joe/jane does not appear to care about such issues. What we have today is the physical equivalent of having a cop following you all the time, recording where you are, what you say, what you read, what you think, who do you talk to, how often you do, and about what.

It shouldn't be so hard to understand that this is a very dystopian state of affairs. And if only enough people would realize just how easy it is to turn it around, next week most of those programs would have crumbled already.

But we're getting a bit offtopic here