BIG FMV Update - Adam just spoke with the President of Liberland!

[cylonmaker2053]

I've been seeing visions and prototypes of these things for years, though, maybe decades. Has anyone ever taken a concrete step toward building a floating city on the water? Forgive my cynicism, but seems about as likely to happen as some of those concept cars at auto shows. Or the ridiculous concept outfits some models wear on the runway in Paris or Milan.

ha! you'd be naive not to be skeptical. i work with the foundation and i'm skeptical. the tech is there to make this happen, just a matter of corralling sufficient demand to capitalize. Peter Thiel has been our top supporter so far, which is nice validation for the concept.

but no, not even a prototype has been launched yet. this year we had some component design testing, but it has thus far been road show marketing, some grants for research; nonetheless, we'll get there. optimistic projections say we'll see the first startup city by 2020.

http://www.seasteading.org/floating-city-project/

[donkeypong]

I've been seeing visions and prototypes of these things for years, though, maybe decades. Has anyone ever taken a concrete step toward building a floating city on the water? Forgive my cynicism, but seems about as likely to happen as some of those concept cars at auto shows. Or the ridiculous concept outfits some models wear on the runway in Paris or Milan.

[cylonmaker2053]

i've long thought that the age of crypto would naturally propel the age of seasteading.

I don't see this link .. yet ..
Unless you establish an independent government in this city/community!

that's the point :)

Seasteading is first looking to establish a prototype in some existing political jurisdiction, but the longer term goal is to make these independent entities...crypto solves the currency issue quite well and also offers an entirely new economy for which these new entities can become safe havens.

[xeroc]

i've long thought that the age of crypto would naturally propel the age of seasteading.

I don't see this link .. yet ..
Unless you establish an independent government in this city/community!

[cylonmaker2053]

Could just as well do this.

http://www.seasteading.org/

i'm a Seasteading ambassador...highly recommend the group. i know they're pro BTC, and i imagine they're going to be very pro BTS once we get 2.0 launched. i'd be happy to start speaking to leadership there about BTS, but def prefer waiting until 2.0 is a go.

Wow .. didn't know people are actually building this:

that's the vision, at least. still a long way to go from here to there, but the need for jurisdictional diversification and a fresh start seems like a no-brainer. i've long thought that the age of crypto would naturally propel the age of seasteading.

[xeroc]

Could just as well do this.

http://www.seasteading.org/

i'm a Seasteading ambassador...highly recommend the group. i know they're pro BTC, and i imagine they're going to be very pro BTS once we get 2.0 launched. i'd be happy to start speaking to leadership there about BTS, but def prefer waiting until 2.0 is a go.

Wow .. didn't know people are actually building this:

[cylonmaker2053]

Could just as well do this.

http://www.seasteading.org/

i'm a Seasteading ambassador...highly recommend the group. i know they're pro BTC, and i imagine they're going to be very pro BTS once we get 2.0 launched. i'd be happy to start speaking to leadership there about BTS, but def prefer waiting until 2.0 is a go.

[Pheonike]

Could just as well do this.

http://www.seasteading.org/

[donkeypong]

Well I got some news on Liberland:

http://www.businessinsider.com/libertarians-liberland-power-politics-2015-7?IR=T

I know they haven't been able to get into Lalaland, but realistically, their thing probably doesn't depend that much on the land itself. The cost of physically starting a country from scratch would be prohibitive. This way, they can claim the land is rightfully theirs and form their government in absentia. There are plenty of precendents for governments that have been deposed from their native lands and fled elsewhere, continuing to function and represent the country and people from abroad. Their thing is all about the principle, so being there shouldn't really matter as long as they can claim rhetorically that it's rightfully theirs.

[topcandle]

Well I got some news on Liberland:

http://www.businessinsider.com/libertarians-liberland-power-politics-2015-7?IR=T

[donkeypong]

[topcandle]

All he said was that they've talked. It was more news than announcement.

Huh?  Where is our update that we were told to get last week?

[donkeypong]

All he said was that they've talked. It was more news than announcement.

[topcandle]

It's one of those potential partnerships that could be good PR or could go absolutely nowhere. You can call him on the date if you want, but that usually isn't how these things work. I'd prefer to just let things unfold naturally and see what happens (if anything).

Its a non-news event.  PR is useful when you have an audience to bring their eyes towards something.  There is nothing to show. 

Additionally, you didn't answer the previous question.  Why would you announce this and then reneg on it and possibility risk damaging credibility.  This is not how world-class organizations act. 

[donkeypong]

It's one of those potential partnerships that could be good PR or could go absolutely nowhere. You can call him on the date if you want, but that usually isn't how these things work. I'd prefer to just let things unfold naturally and see what happens (if anything).

[lil_jay890]

Is mediocrity good enough for us?

Nope. That's why they'd rather do it right than rushing on a timeline.

What is the point of making an announcement that your going to announce something on a certain date and then not announcing anything?  Why not just keep everything private until you have something concrete?

[topcandle]

Is mediocrity good enough for us?

Nope. That's why they'd rather do it right than rushing on a timeline.

I agree with that. But execution is a whole another question.  This is about communication and how it gets botched so often. 

[donkeypong]

Is mediocrity good enough for us?

Nope. That's why they'd rather do it right than rushing on a timeline.

[topcandle]

Community Check:

Where is this update FMV?  Its been over a week.

Around here, we add a few weeks to every promise. Call it crypto time. And give the President of Lalaland a break, too; he probably has some pressing concerns at the moment, such as planting a flag, designing a government, raising a nonviolent army, etc. All in good time.

Is mediocrity good enough for us?

[MJK]

Is that max wright second from the right? I thought he was australian.

[donkeypong]

Community Check:

Where is this update FMV?  Its been over a week.

Around here, we add a few weeks to every promise. Call it crypto time. And give the President of Lalaland a break, too; he probably has some pressing concerns at the moment, such as planting a flag, designing a government, raising a nonviolent army, etc. All in good time.

[topcandle]

Community Check:

Where is this update FMV?  Its been over a week. 

[cass]

Bam .. +5%

This  +5%... great to see things in progress :)

[xeroc]

Bam .. +5%

Soon we can approach r/bitcoin again with:
You can now vote Bitcoin as major currency in Liberland using FollowMyVote (BitShares Technology) :)

[cgafeng]

Interesting

[cylonmaker2053]

and Bitshares would make the PERFECT asset exchange for Liberland :)

[roadscape]

Very unexpected.. nice. Liberland is a great story for BitShares to be a part of.

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

I have looked into this stuff.. From what I read though there is no permanent residence of this new micro nation.. which is a requirement.

I do think I see where this is going though.. I am watching this closely.. this could be helpful to me at the bunker in the future. ;)

[Slick Willy]

We will update the community on what this means next week. But for now share and like this post!

https://www.facebook.com/FollowMyVote/photos/a.404567003023286.1073741828.104621233017866/714738035339513/?type=1&theater

Liberland: https://followmyvote.com/liberland/