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xeroc

Quote from: DestBest on October 06, 2015, 02:44:26 PM
@xeroc
What do you put in the "Public data" field when you create your UIA? Compare to "Description"?
Not so easy for a french speaking guy to understand  ???
Hope I warp my head around it so I can participate in GUI translation  :D

The public data and the description will not migrate to BitShares 2.0 .. hence you can use "" there :)

DestBest

Quote from: kenCode on October 05, 2015, 09:20:07 AM
I hope not, I was told that I could keep the names as-is.
Hope you will have your name  :)

Quote from: kenCode on October 05, 2015, 05:42:11 AM
You might want to create yours after we announce ours. We will be publishing a fee table that shows how your uia traders and holders can make money from it whether they are doing anything with the uia or not. In our example, the more of the uia you trade, the more fees we will be able to use to develop further integrations, and the more of the uia you hold, the more you will make from every customer transaction at the terminal itself. 8)
Sounds pretty interesting  8)

Quote from: kenCode on October 05, 2015, 05:42:11 AM

In the public data field, I just put the description of the uia, but the core devs are the best people to ask, I am no uia expert, that's for sure.

@xeroc
What do you put in the "Public data" field when you create your UIA? Compare to "Description"?
Not so easy for a french speaking guy to understand  ???
Hope I warp my head around it so I can participate in GUI translation  :D
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kenCode

I hope not, I was told that I could keep the names as-is.
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mostar

Quote from: fav on September 08, 2015, 10:38:53 AM
...

I'd rather ask if the asset is being renamed to bts-asset.id. I'd say yes, but there's no public info. @bytemaster

Will the asset name be change during 2.0 upgrade?


kenCode

It is created yes, but we have developed a more profitable model that needs to be integrated with it before I (actually Stan) announce it.
So, please do not purchase any just yet. We will post the name of the uia and all details of it sometime around the 13th 2.0 launch, hopefully before that date.

In the public data field, I just put the description of the uia, but the core devs are the best people to ask, I am no uia expert, that's for sure.

You might want to create yours after we announce ours. We will be publishing a fee table that shows how your uia traders and holders can make money from it whether they are doing anything with the uia or not. In our example, the more of the uia you trade, the more fees we will be able to use to develop further integrations, and the more of the uia you hold, the more you will make from every customer transaction at the terminal itself. 8)
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DestBest

Quote from: kenCode on September 15, 2015, 05:05:42 PM
Quote from: 38PTSWarrior on September 15, 2015, 03:10:27 PM
.I cannot see any amount on the exchange yet. Now I can announce it. Or is there anything else what I have to do now?
This is where I am stumped too. I have to increase the precision from 10 to 10,000, and figure out how best to configure it and then issue it best in a way that will facilitate crowdfunding, or raising money for our projects.

Any news on this? Can i already buy your UIA ken?

I am interested too in UIA creation :D

What do you put in the "Public data" field when your create a UIA?
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kenCode

Quote from: 38PTSWarrior on September 15, 2015, 03:10:27 PM
.I cannot see any amount on the exchange yet. Now I can announce it. Or is there anything else what I have to do now?
This is where I am stumped too. I have to increase the precision from 10 to 10,000, and figure out how best to configure it and then issue it best in a way that will facilitate crowdfunding, or raising money for our projects.
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38PTSWarrior

#60
Got it, offer on market
Edit: no :-D

38PTSWarrior

Cool  I did it. I issued 50 CHATEAUX.

I cannot see any amount on the exchange yet. Now I can announce it. Or is there anything else what I have to do now?



kenCode

No worries, it's always the syntax ;)

How do I change the precision from 10 to 10,000? (wallet_uia_update_supply --not working)
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38PTSWarrior

Quote from: kenCode on September 13, 2015, 09:46:47 AM
Quote from: 38PTSWarrior on September 13, 2015, 09:43:26 AM
Quote from: kenCode on September 13, 2015, 09:30:58 AM
Quote from: 38PTSWarrior on September 13, 2015, 09:20:13 AM
Ah the cli is a different thing than the console? Ken, could you write the exact line u used here please?
yeah, they call the Console a CLI (i just learned that term too). so, go to your wallet, open that console and paste this in there.
I *think* you would do it like this, but you may want to modify this before you set that account to pay the 5000BTS for this:

wallet_uia_create thirty-eight.pts-warrior CHATEAUX "Chateaux Enterprise" "Donations to the Chateaux Enterprise" 100000000.0

edit: i see (you?) created a chateaux user account too?
http://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts/account?name=chateaux
if so, you might want to use that account to register instead of that thirty-eight.pts-warrior account.
this way the CHATEAUX issuer owner account will show as chateaux
That little dot before the last 0?
Edit, yeah I created chateaux
Yes, as per the "Example" I found here: http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/BitShares/UserAssets
One f.cink dot, man I didn't see it. Thanks much.

kenCode

Quote from: 38PTSWarrior on September 13, 2015, 09:43:26 AM
Quote from: kenCode on September 13, 2015, 09:30:58 AM
Quote from: 38PTSWarrior on September 13, 2015, 09:20:13 AM
Ah the cli is a different thing than the console? Ken, could you write the exact line u used here please?
yeah, they call the Console a CLI (i just learned that term too). so, go to your wallet, open that console and paste this in there.
I *think* you would do it like this, but you may want to modify this before you set that account to pay the 5000BTS for this:

wallet_uia_create thirty-eight.pts-warrior CHATEAUX "Chateaux Enterprise" "Donations to the Chateaux Enterprise" 100000000.0

edit: i see (you?) created a chateaux user account too?
http://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts/account?name=chateaux
if so, you might want to use that account to register instead of that thirty-eight.pts-warrior account.
this way the CHATEAUX issuer owner account will show as chateaux
That little dot before the last 0?
Edit, yeah I created chateaux
Yes, as per the "Example" I found here: http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/BitShares/UserAssets
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38PTSWarrior

Quote from: kenCode on September 13, 2015, 09:30:58 AM
Quote from: 38PTSWarrior on September 13, 2015, 09:20:13 AM
Ah the cli is a different thing than the console? Ken, could you write the exact line u used here please?
yeah, they call the Console a CLI (i just learned that term too). so, go to your wallet, open that console and paste this in there.
I *think* you would do it like this, but you may want to modify this before you set that account to pay the 5000BTS for this:

wallet_uia_create thirty-eight.pts-warrior CHATEAUX "Chateaux Enterprise" "Donations to the Chateaux Enterprise" 100000000.0

edit: i see (you?) created a chateaux user account too?
http://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts/account?name=chateaux
if so, you might want to use that account to register instead of that thirty-eight.pts-warrior account.
this way the CHATEAUX issuer owner account will show as chateaux
That little dot before the last 0?
Edit, yeah I created chateaux

kenCode

#54
Quote from: 38PTSWarrior on September 13, 2015, 09:20:13 AM
Ah the cli is a different thing than the console? Ken, could you write the exact line u used here please?
yeah, they call the Console a CLI (i just learned that term too). so, go to your wallet, open that console and paste this in there.
I *think* you would do it like this, but you may want to modify this before you set that account to pay the 5000BTS for this:

wallet_uia_create thirty-eight.pts-warrior CHATEAUX "Chateaux Enterprise" "Donations to the Chateaux Enterprise" 100000000.0

edit: i see (you?) created a chateaux user account too?
http://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts/account?name=chateaux
if so, you might want to use that account to register instead of that thirty-eight.pts-warrior account.
this way the CHATEAUX issuer owner account will show as chateaux
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38PTSWarrior

Ah the cli is a different thing than the console? Ken, could you write the exact line u used here please?

kenCode

Quote from: fav on September 13, 2015, 08:28:42 AM
You have to use the console to create an asset.
Quote from: xeroc on September 13, 2015, 09:04:41 AM
@ken: do you see a notification in the top right corner near your account name?
@38PTSWarrior @fav @xeroc

Yes, that red error message has been there forever. it started appearing in 0.9.2, i do not think 0.9.1 did it.

I used the CLI as @fav suggested and it worked! I now have my first asset created as per "How do I create a UIA?" from here:
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/BitShares/UserAssets

Now I need to use the CLI to:
1. Set the precision to 10,000 (right now it is set at 10).
2. basically, copy the way NOTE did it:
http://bitsharesblocks.com/asset/info?asset=NOTE
3. Then, learn how to issue to myself via the cli and get the trading going (reserve fund? current supply?).

Maybe I should stick the word DONATIONS in here somewhere too.
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xeroc

@ken: do you see a notification in the top right corner near your account name?

38PTSWarrior


fav

You have to use the console to create an asset.
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38PTSWarrior

I had a similar problem. Creating the asset worked (for a few seconds it was there, no money was taken from my account and after refreshing the page it was gone)

I tried this for 3 or more weeks and gave up.

kenCode

oh man my wallet has issues. i run linux of course, 0.9.2 wallet, and i just ried to create my first asset with my bitshares-munich account.
i filled in the symbol name, letters only, 7chars.
i filled in the description fields.
1,000,000,000 and 100,000.
click the "Create" button and it does nothing. it just sits there staring at me.
my balance was not decremented by the 5000BTS either.
i closed and restarted the wallet, still nothing.
is there a "plan b" for creating an asset without the wallet? linux terminal commands perhaps?
or, did i just type in something wrong above?
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kenCode

Quote from: Tuck Fheman on September 09, 2015, 12:37:13 PM
Waiting or reloading the client will almost always "fix" it.
The first time I tried that it still showed the old amount, but third times a charm i guess. it doesn't show a balance at all now.
Thanx @fav and Tuck :)
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Quote from: bytemaster on September 08, 2015, 01:30:26 PM
Premium Name:  No Numbers and has Vowles
Cheap Name: Has Numbers or No Vowels

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Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: xeroc on September 08, 2015, 02:05:16 PM
Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 01:59:35 PM
They gave me a small todo list today for this UIA creation, but at least I know everything is good to go with BaFin.
Are you allows to share what they told/gave you?
From the sound of his voice, it sounded very simple to get that 2 day permit so we will see. I will know more tomorrow after I speak with them.
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Tuck Fheman

It can take some time to "refresh".

Waiting or reloading the client will almost always "fix" it.

fav

Quote from: kenCode on September 09, 2015, 12:33:47 PM
since i can't delete an account yet (bitshares-munich) i tried to at least empty the 2 BTS balance from it, and send those 2 BTS to my main munich account (http://bitsharesblocks.com/blocks/block?id=3542081).

Blocks are synced, munich account shows the 2 BTS balance increase, but the bitshares-munich account still shows a balance of 2.5 BTS.



linux mint latest, 0.9.2 wallet.
bug?

try with 1.9 BTS
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kenCode

since i can't delete an account yet (bitshares-munich) i tried to at least empty the 2 BTS balance from it, and send those 2 BTS to my main munich account (http://bitsharesblocks.com/blocks/block?id=3542081).

Blocks are synced, munich account shows the 2 BTS balance increase, but the bitshares-munich account still shows a balance of 2.5 BTS.



linux mint latest, 0.9.2 wallet.
bug?
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Quote from: mf-tzo on September 08, 2015, 02:13:45 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on September 08, 2015, 01:26:27 PM
**Update: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be prefixed with "bts-" unless they were registered using the [BitShares Faucet](https://faucet.bitshares.org/). **

I was under the impression that names longer than 8 letters will not have the bts prefix. Isn't that the case?

same here.

Quote from: bytemaster on September 08, 2015, 01:26:27 PM
After the name squatting debacle we have revised the length-based system:

Premium Name:  No Numbers and has Vowles
Cheap Name: Has Numbers or No Vowels


Perhaps it was 'revised' again or was it simply omitted above?

kenCode

Quote from: xeroc on September 08, 2015, 02:05:16 PM
Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 01:59:35 PM
They gave me a small todo list today for this UIA creation, but at least I know everything is good to go with BaFin.
Are you allows to share what they told/gave you?
Well, one major point that Lutz brought up was CCEDK's ability to onramp people at the Expo. He ways saying that if someone is going to money transfer or exchange here in Germany (even if it is only for the 2 day Expo) then they "must be licensed with BaFin". I haven't had a chance yet, but I need to discuss this with Ronny @ccedk to make sure his people can do onramping at the Expo as well. It might just be a 2-day business license to "operate" here, but either way, I want to onramp as many people as possible at the Expo so I am working with BaFin first to get the actual regulation documentation/statute and see what that "license" would entail. From the sound of his voice, it sounded very simple to get that 2 day permit so we will see. I will know more tomorrow after I speak with them. It's too late in the day now, it's already 1655 here.
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mf-tzo

Quote from: bytemaster on September 08, 2015, 01:26:27 PM
**Update: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be prefixed with "bts-" unless they were registered using the [BitShares Faucet](https://faucet.bitshares.org/). **

I was under the impression that names longer than 8 letters will not have the bts prefix. Isn't that the case?
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xeroc

Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 01:59:35 PM
They gave me a small todo list today for this UIA creation, but at least I know everything is good to go with BaFin.
Are you allows to share what they told/gave you?

kenCode

lol ok cool, so at least I know everyone's money is safe and like you said it's just a "label".

So, my "munich" account will automatically become "bts-munich".
That account will now be the official "business checking account" for BitShares Munich.

I signed with the Winheller Law Firm today. They will be speaking at the Expo, an Exhibitor, etc.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UnldiptL8n5o1iWIEMhrSfh1f6OpOUkqPMtfZXO8xpU/edit

They gave me a small todo list today for this UIA creation, but at least I know everything is good to go with BaFin. You've got some really awesome crypto people here in Deutschland :)
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xeroc

Quote from: bytemaster on September 08, 2015, 01:30:26 PM
Quote from: xeroc on September 08, 2015, 10:36:01 AM
The length of the account name is what qualifies it for a "premium name" .. but don't ask me how short that would be .. I would say everything above 8 should be non-premium
Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 10:27:09 AM
Ok, so that means that this account that I registered yesterday with my wallet, not the faucet, (http://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts/account?name=munich) will automatically become bts-munich upon the 2.0 switchover?
Yes / No
YES .. munich is a premium name

Quote
That account will still be accessible to me even though it was not registered with the faucet?
Yes / No
Sure

Quote
Is it safe for me to use that munich account right now to create the publicly tradeable UIA I want?
Yes / No
sure ..
after upgrade the asset will appear as if it was registered by bts-munich

Talking about this .. I wonder what the devs would do if there is a name collision:

munich (premium) -> bts-munich
bts-munich (non premium) -> bts-munich ?!?

@bytemaster @Stan @vikram ?

After the name squatting debacle we have revised the length-based system:

Premium Name:  No Numbers and has Vowles
Cheap Name: Has Numbers or No Vowels
ui .. interesting ..

@kencode: that means you will defeinitely be prefixed .. both names 'munich' -> 'bts-munich'    and   "bts-munich" -> "bts-bts-munich" :(

bytemaster

Quote from: xeroc on September 08, 2015, 10:36:01 AM
The length of the account name is what qualifies it for a "premium name" .. but don't ask me how short that would be .. I would say everything above 8 should be non-premium
Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 10:27:09 AM
Ok, so that means that this account that I registered yesterday with my wallet, not the faucet, (http://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts/account?name=munich) will automatically become bts-munich upon the 2.0 switchover?
Yes / No
YES .. munich is a premium name

Quote
That account will still be accessible to me even though it was not registered with the faucet?
Yes / No
Sure

Quote
Is it safe for me to use that munich account right now to create the publicly tradeable UIA I want?
Yes / No
sure ..
after upgrade the asset will appear as if it was registered by bts-munich

Talking about this .. I wonder what the devs would do if there is a name collision:

munich (premium) -> bts-munich
bts-munich (non premium) -> bts-munich ?!?

@bytemaster @Stan @vikram ?

After the name squatting debacle we have revised the length-based system:

Premium Name:  No Numbers and has Vowles
Cheap Name: Has Numbers or No Vowels

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Anything said on these forums does not constitute an intent to create a legal obligation or contract between myself and anyone else.   These are merely my opinions and I reserve the right to change them at any time.

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**Update: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be prefixed with "bts-" unless they were registered using the [BitShares Faucet](https://faucet.bitshares.org/). **
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xeroc

Quote from: bytemaster on September 08, 2015, 01:21:39 PM
The requirement to use the faucet to register / migrate accounts was done to prevent the name squatters from buying up all of the cheap names between now and launch of 2.0.

Names registered outside the faucet will be prefixed, but the account will still retain full control of all funds.

I will update the website with more clairty.
I would have updated the page myself already if I was more than 80% sure you wanted it that way ..
Thanks for the clarifiaction

bytemaster

The requirement to use the faucet to register / migrate accounts was done to prevent the name squatters from buying up all of the cheap names between now and launch of 2.0.

Names registered outside the faucet will be prefixed, but the account will still retain full control of all funds.

I will update the website with more clairty.
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CLains

The official statement is both vague and/or inaccurate.  At least it gave me a minor heart attack after I registered my Delegate, so I PM'ed BM:

Quote from: bytemaster on August 04, 2015, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: CLains on August 01, 2015, 10:02:44 PM
Hey BM!

Quick question. It says on the blog that, "Update: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be migrated if and only if they were registered using the BitShares Faucet."

We registered a delegate name bitspace-clains after that time, and not from the faucet. Does that mean it will become bts-bitspace-clains or will it not be migrated at all? Really hope we don't have to pay the delegate registration fee over again!

Thanks,

You will not have to pay the delegate registration fee again. 

So I agree we should modify the official statement like bulletproof said:

Quote from: bulletproof on September 08, 2015, 11:00:40 AM
Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 10:54:59 AM

This statement scares the hell out of me. It says to me that this wallet-created account will not be migrated:
QuoteUpdate: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be migrated <without prefixing> if and only if they were registered using the BitShares Faucet.

Would suggest minor rewording would make this clearer, it does read scary
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xeroc

In the end .. all that changes is the label for your account .. that INCLUDES the owner of an asset .. nothing changes EXCEPT that label
* you still own your stuff
* you still have full access to that asset
* you can still issue your shares
* ....

kenCode

@xeroc @fav - I apologize guys for being brash.

I hope you see now why I am so freaked out about this account thing. Creating a UIA is no small matter, especially in legal terms so I have to make sure this thing is created properly, the account that owns it is safe, it's traded properly, the finances are transparent, and risk of 2.0 migration doesn't screw any of this up, people's money is on the line. This is stressful.

Again, I apologize for being brash.
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Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 10:54:59 AM

This statement scares the hell out of me. It says to me that this wallet-created account will not be migrated:
QuoteUpdate: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be migrated <without prefixing> if and only if they were registered using the BitShares Faucet.

Would suggest minor rewording would make this clearer, it does read scary
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Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 10:54:59 AM
This statement scares the hell out of me. It says to me that this wallet-created account will not be migrated:
QuoteUpdate: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be migrated if and only if they were registered using the BitShares Faucet.

I'm going to assume that's not typed up correctly.

I hope I'm right.

kenCode

Quote from: xeroc on September 08, 2015, 10:36:01 AM
The length of the account name is what qualifies it for a "premium name" .. but don't ask me how short that would be .. I would say everything above 8 should be non-premium
Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 10:27:09 AM
Ok, so that means that this account that I registered yesterday with my wallet, not the faucet, (http://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts/account?name=munich) will automatically become bts-munich upon the 2.0 switchover?
Yes / No
YES .. munich is a premium name

Quote
That account will still be accessible to me even though it was not registered with the faucet?
Yes / No
Sure

Quote
Is it safe for me to use that munich account right now to create the publicly tradeable UIA I want?
Yes / No
sure ..
after upgrade the asset will appear as if it was registered by bts-munich

Talking about this .. I wonder what the devs would do if there is a name collision:

munich (premium) -> bts-munich
bts-munich (non premium) -> bts-munich ?!?

@bytemaster @stan @vikram ?

Ok, so you know that I did not use the faucet yesterday to create that munich account.
I used my linux gui client only.
As you can see, my munich account is registered: http://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts/account?name=munich

This statement scares the hell out of me. It says to me that this wallet-created account will not be migrated:
QuoteUpdate: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be migrated if and only if they were registered using the BitShares Faucet.

If I open my linux gui client wallet right now and use that munich account to create the UIA, will everything be accessible to me in 2.0?
I need a 110% for sure answer on this before I drop 5,000 BTS to create the UIA with the munich account name and put its UIA up for trading, ya know?
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Tuck Fheman

Quote from: xeroc on September 08, 2015, 10:36:01 AM
Talking about this .. I wonder what the devs would do if there is a name collision
munich (premium) -> bts-munich
bts-munich (non premium) -> bts-munich ?!?


fav

Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 10:27:09 AM
Quote from: fav on September 08, 2015, 10:14:46 AM
quoting myself, time to add:

Account Name Migration
Under BitShares 2.0, accounts are transferable and have different prices based upon the "quality" of the account name. Any "premium" names registered on or after 2015-06-08 (US Eastern time) will be given the prefix "bts-" or similar after the migration.

Update: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be migrated if and only if they were registered using the BitShares Faucet.


Ok, so that means that this account that I registered yesterday with my wallet, not the faucet, (http://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts/account?name=munich) will automatically become bts-munich upon the 2.0 switchover?
Yes / No
yes

That account will still be accessible to me even though it was not registered with the faucet?
Yes / No
yes

Is it safe for me to use that munich account right now to create the publicly tradeable UIA I want?
Yes / No
yes

I'd rather ask if the asset is being renamed to bts-asset.id. I'd say yes, but there's no public info. @bytemaster
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Tuck Fheman

Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 10:27:09 AM
Ok, so that means that this account that I registered yesterday with my wallet, not the faucet, (http://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts/account?name=munich) will automatically become bts-munich upon the 2.0 switchover?
Yes / No

That account will still be accessible to me even though it was not registered with the faucet?
Yes / No

Is it safe for me to use that munich account right now to create the publicly tradeable UIA I want?
Yes / No

afaik the answer is Yes to all 3, but I'd wait for a confirmation from xeroc/fav ... someone other than me. ;)

xeroc

The length of the account name is what qualifies it for a "premium name" .. but don't ask me how short that would be .. I would say everything above 8 should be non-premium
Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 10:27:09 AM
Ok, so that means that this account that I registered yesterday with my wallet, not the faucet, (http://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts/account?name=munich) will automatically become bts-munich upon the 2.0 switchover?
Yes / No
YES .. munich is a premium name

Quote
That account will still be accessible to me even though it was not registered with the faucet?
Yes / No
Sure

Quote
Is it safe for me to use that munich account right now to create the publicly tradeable UIA I want?
Yes / No
sure ..
after upgrade the asset will appear as if it was registered by bts-munich

Talking about this .. I wonder what the devs would do if there is a name collision:

munich (premium) -> bts-munich
bts-munich (non premium) -> bts-munich ?!?

@bytemaster @stan @vikram ?

xeroc

Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 10:05:09 AM
I'd also like to mention here that I followed this page to the letter:
https://bitshares.org/register/

I created the account name in my linux wallet just like it says to do. When it came time to register it, the faucet was not in that select list in my wallet. So, I came to the faucet website which is where I got that red error message. See?
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares.github.io/commit/57886b1a0d433096e79a817d89caa0b33b598d71
Thanks for pointing this out .. I added a remark on that page

xeroc

Quote from: Tuck Fheman on September 08, 2015, 10:02:09 AM
Especially when that person is willing to help you publicly (which would benefit anyone in your same boat in the future), but you insist they personally assist you via a private social media conference.
That's exactly my point .. I work for ALL shareholders .. not just a few ones .. hence I do PUBLIC support .. unless someone pays me to do INDIVIDUAL support

I am not rich and need to make a living from what I do ..

kenCode

Quote from: fav on September 08, 2015, 10:14:46 AM
quoting myself, time to add:

Account Name Migration
Under BitShares 2.0, accounts are transferable and have different prices based upon the "quality" of the account name. Any "premium" names registered on or after 2015-06-08 (US Eastern time) will be given the prefix "bts-" or similar after the migration.

Update: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be migrated if and only if they were registered using the BitShares Faucet.


Ok, so that means that this account that I registered yesterday with my wallet, not the faucet, (http://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts/account?name=munich) will automatically become bts-munich upon the 2.0 switchover?
Yes / No

That account will still be accessible to me even though it was not registered with the faucet?
Yes / No

Is it safe for me to use that munich account right now to create the publicly tradeable UIA I want?
Yes / No
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fav

Quote from: fav on September 08, 2015, 09:14:48 AM
Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 08:49:07 AM
QuoteUpdate: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be migrated if and only if they were registered using the BitShares Faucet.
This is telling me that any accounts that i register in my wallet now, won't even be accessible in 2.0? So I lose access to the bitshares-munich account that I created? Or bts-bitshares-munich ?? Seriously, explain this to me in detail please.


https://bitshares.org/blog/2015/06/08/migrating-to-bitshares-2.0/ why doesn't a paid delegate follow the official blog?

quoting myself, time to add:

Account Name Migration
Under BitShares 2.0, accounts are transferable and have different prices based upon the "quality" of the account name. Any "premium" names registered on or after 2015-06-08 (US Eastern time) will be given the prefix "bts-" or similar after the migration.

Update: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be migrated if and only if they were registered using the BitShares Faucet.
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Tuck Fheman

#13
Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 10:08:42 AM
So how do I proceed from here to get the account name I want and use the faucet so that it doesn't get the bts- prefix?

afaik, as long as it is not a 'premium name' it will not get the bts prefix upon migration.

That's what I remember typing up in a transcript a while back.

If I come across the exact quote before someone confirms/denies that I'll past it here for clarification.

Edit : fav beat me.  :P

kenCode

So, since I was unable to use the faucet, I was forced to create the account, fund it, and register it with my wallet, not the faucet website.

I think the faucet issue I had would have prevented all this, right?
So how do I proceed from here to get the account name I want and use the faucet so that it doesn't get the bts- prefix?
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kenCode

I'd also like to mention here that I followed this page to the letter:
https://bitshares.org/register/

I created the account name in my linux wallet just like it says to do. When it came time to register it, the faucet was not in that select list in my wallet. So, I came to the faucet website which is where I got that red error message. See?
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Tuck Fheman

Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 09:15:56 AM
Time is money

I think this is where you went wrong.

Don't equate time with money when you want someone else to give up their time to you for free. ;)

Complaining when they ask for money for their time after making that statement just compounds the error.  :P

Especially when that person is willing to help you publicly (which would benefit anyone in your same boat in the future), but you insist they personally assist you via a private social media conference.

As you well know and are probably doing yourself, there are a LOT of people working for the blockchain free of charge (me included) while there are a few others monetizing everything BitShares and asking for funding BEFORE they lift a finger.

So I don't think xeroc is out of line by taking the position they have and honestly I'd do the same after you set things up the way you did. ;)

(Sorry I butted in, but ...)

kenCode

Quote from: xeroc on September 08, 2015, 09:19:25 AM
BitShares shareholders pay me to give public support
unless you pay me too I cannot answer in a private channel
I am a stakeholder.
Ok, so let's waste more time typing here when all of my questions could be answered in a brief skype call.

God forbid a Delegate might have a question too. I've been just a little busy with a million other BitShares projects to keep up on account name stuff.

This is ridiculous you guys, are we on the same team or what?

I want to create my first UIA. I want the Issuer of that UIA to be my bitshares-munich account.

Fav, it's not your job to help me, but I sure do thank you if you can. Please and Thank You.
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xeroc

Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 09:15:56 AM
I have to delete the old account now or something, or try the faucet again, am i still gonna be stuck with the bts- prefix, etc..
Accounts cannot be deleted .. they me be transfered in BTS2.0 .. not in BTS1 ..

Quote
I haven't even started on my UIA questions yet...
Time is money, please help me. Thank you
BitShares shareholders pay me to give public support in this forum ..
unless you pay me too I cannot answer in a private channel ..

Have to get back to work for BTS and devel the whitepaper and stuff ..

kenCode

Quote from: xeroc on September 08, 2015, 09:01:10 AM

default (unlocked) >>> get_account bitshares-munich
Name: bitshares-munich
Registered: 2015-09-06T15:52:00
Last Updated: 41 hours ago

that account was already registered 41 hours ago .. the faucet can't help your with this now ..
Why don't you try with bitshares-munich-de
instead?
Because I do not want that account name.

I've got multiple questions here now can someone please just skype me?
I have to delete the old account now or something, or try the faucet again, am i still gonna be stuck with the bts- prefix, etc..
I haven't even started on my UIA questions yet...
Time is money, please help me. Thank you
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fav

Quote from: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 08:49:07 AM
QuoteUpdate: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be migrated if and only if they were registered using the BitShares Faucet.
This is telling me that any accounts that i register in my wallet now, won't even be accessible in 2.0? So I lose access to the bitshares-munich account that I created? Or bts-bitshares-munich ?? Seriously, explain this to me in detail please.


https://bitshares.org/blog/2015/06/08/migrating-to-bitshares-2.0/ why doesn't a paid delegate follow the official blog?
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default (unlocked) >>> get_account bitshares-munich
Name: bitshares-munich
Registered: 2015-09-06T15:52:00
Last Updated: 41 hours ago

that account was already registered 41 hours ago .. the faucet can't help your with this now ..
Why don't you try with bitshares-munich-de
instead?

kenCode

#4
QuoteUpdate: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be migrated if and only if they were registered using the BitShares Faucet.
This is telling me that any accounts that i register in my wallet now, won't even be accessible in 2.0? So I lose access to the bitshares-munich account that I created? Or bts-bitshares-munich ?? Seriously, explain this to me in detail please.

I want to create a UIA. I want a registered account called bitshares-munich to own that UIA.
Time is money, can someone please take 2 minutes and just skype me (kenCode_de), walk me through this? Thank you :)
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kenCode

#3
Quote from: xeroc on September 08, 2015, 08:01:49 AM
https://bitshares.org/blog/2015/06/08/migrating-to-bitshares-2.0/#account-name-migration
Quote
Update: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be migrated if and only if they were registered using the BitShares Faucet.
I tried to use the faucet, but it didn't work. I put in the account name and public key and it came back with a red error message:

We were unable to register account 'bitshares-munich' - { "message": "account key already in use (32008)\n\n\n\n", "detail": "32008 account_key_in_use: account key already in use\n\n {}\n th_a light_api.cpp:51 request_register_account\n\n {}\n th_a light_api.cpp:62 request_register_account\n\n {}\n th_a common_api_client.cpp:6396 request_register_account", "code": 32008 }

So, from what I described above my bitshares-munich account will become bts-bitshares-munich yes?
I really want to create my UIA today with the bitshares-munich account, please advise, thanx :)
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xeroc

https://bitshares.org/blog/2015/06/08/migrating-to-bitshares-2.0/#account-name-migration
Quote
Update: All account names registered on or after 2015-06-18 (US Eastern time) will be migrated if and only if they were registered using the BitShares Faucet.

kenCode

I need to confirm.. Will this account:
http://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts/account?name=bitshares-munich

..have a "bts-" prefix upon 2.0 launch? ie, would the account name change, or show as this:
bts-bitshares-munich

I created the bitshares-munich account in my linux gui client, and sent 1BTS to it from my kencode account so that it could get registered on the blockchain.

I am going to create my first UIA this week. I need the "Issuer account" to be bitshares-munich for example:
http://bitsharesblocks.com/asset/info?asset=NOTE

No bts- will get stuck on the front of bitshares-munich right?
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