Openledger/bitshares is down for me, anyone else?

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abit

Quote from: abit on January 12, 2016, 08:45:05 PM
Quote from: bitacer on January 12, 2016, 04:07:23 PM
Are there any other websocket servers that we can choose from ?
In China we have DACPLAY, and harvey, and perhaps btsabc running ws servers. Anyone else is running this service?
Maybe it's better to add them to Graphene-ui? Maybe add a list in the documents? @xeroc  @svk @wmbutler

//Update:
I'll try to collect a detailed list first.

DACPLAY: wss://bitshares.dacplay.org:8089
RiverHead: ws://185.82.203.92:8090
Harvey: ws://128.199.143.47:2016
BTSDac: ws://139.196.37.179:8090
BTAER(BTSDac): ws://btaer.com:8090 (currently offline for me)
Pull request submitted. https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/pull/666
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Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on January 12, 2016, 05:09:35 PM
That's not a bad idea.. setup a proxy that monitors available nodes and connects you. The only danger in that is if those nodes are not keeping up to date could be an issue.. it's easy to tell if a server is online and responding but not so easy to tell if the node is getting blocks properly etc.

We should set up DNS seeders that do that. For API servers as well as seed nodes.

Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 05:14:28 PM
Then when we click to add a new node, a list of nodes owned by witnesses would popup and we would choose the one we want. Witnesses nodes should be up to date. Or a list of witnesses who processed the last 10 blocks

Witness nodes should not provide API functions to the world. They shouldn't allow any incoming connections - otherwise it's too easy to overload them.
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abit

Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on January 12, 2016, 05:20:50 PM
Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on January 12, 2016, 05:09:35 PM
Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: xeroc on January 12, 2016, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 03:19:44 PM
How decentralized is BitShares if we depend on OpenLedger service to be up and running? I couldn't use it with the light client too.
Run a business .. setup your own witness nodes and there you go ..
The network is decentralized .. access to the network currently is not ..

I just don't know how to connect to other witness node in case the OpenLedger one that seems to be the default, is down. I don't know which other websocket servers to choose from, where's a list for me to manually input a new one. Couldn't we make it so in case one is down, it automatically redirects to other random node ran by witnesses?

That's not a bad idea.. setup a proxy that monitors available nodes and connects you. The only danger in that is if those nodes are not keeping up to date could be an issue.. it's easy to tell if a server is online and responding but not so easy to tell if the node is getting blocks properly etc.

Then when we click to add a new node, a list of nodes owned by witnesses would popup and we would choose the one we want. Witnesses nodes should be up to date. Or a list of witnesses who processed the last 10 blocks

It's up to the witnesses to provide that.. however I don't think they should.. their task is to witness block production.. we add end user load to that and you invite an attack vector + you need to increase their pay for more infrastructure.
Better if seed nodes provide ws services as well. Or another list of ws servers.
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abit

#27
Quote from: bitacer on January 12, 2016, 04:07:23 PM
Are there any other websocket servers that we can choose from ?
In China we have DACPLAY, and harvey, and perhaps btsabc running ws servers. Anyone else is running this service?
Maybe it's better to add them to Graphene-ui? Maybe add a list in the documents? @xeroc  @svk @wmbutler

//Update:
I'll try to collect a detailed list first.

DACPLAY: wss://bitshares.dacplay.org:8089
RiverHead: ws://185.82.203.92:8090
Harvey: ws://128.199.143.47:2016
BTSDac: ws://139.196.37.179:8090

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Akado

But they're the only reliable nodes, that way we end up having a bottleneck with only a single node, in this case OpenLedger, for all users. Also I don't agree with xeroc when he says the network is decentralized but access is not... that may be true in theory but from a user pov that's not decentralized since if one single node is down he has no access. This, from a user pov
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Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on January 12, 2016, 05:09:35 PM
Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: xeroc on January 12, 2016, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 03:19:44 PM
How decentralized is BitShares if we depend on OpenLedger service to be up and running? I couldn't use it with the light client too.
Run a business .. setup your own witness nodes and there you go ..
The network is decentralized .. access to the network currently is not ..

I just don't know how to connect to other witness node in case the OpenLedger one that seems to be the default, is down. I don't know which other websocket servers to choose from, where's a list for me to manually input a new one. Couldn't we make it so in case one is down, it automatically redirects to other random node ran by witnesses?

That's not a bad idea.. setup a proxy that monitors available nodes and connects you. The only danger in that is if those nodes are not keeping up to date could be an issue.. it's easy to tell if a server is online and responding but not so easy to tell if the node is getting blocks properly etc.

Then when we click to add a new node, a list of nodes owned by witnesses would popup and we would choose the one we want. Witnesses nodes should be up to date. Or a list of witnesses who processed the last 10 blocks

It's up to the witnesses to provide that.. however I don't think they should.. their task is to witness block production.. we add end user load to that and you invite an attack vector + you need to increase their pay for more infrastructure.
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Akado

Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on January 12, 2016, 05:09:35 PM
Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: xeroc on January 12, 2016, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 03:19:44 PM
How decentralized is BitShares if we depend on OpenLedger service to be up and running? I couldn't use it with the light client too.
Run a business .. setup your own witness nodes and there you go ..
The network is decentralized .. access to the network currently is not ..

I just don't know how to connect to other witness node in case the OpenLedger one that seems to be the default, is down. I don't know which other websocket servers to choose from, where's a list for me to manually input a new one. Couldn't we make it so in case one is down, it automatically redirects to other random node ran by witnesses?

That's not a bad idea.. setup a proxy that monitors available nodes and connects you. The only danger in that is if those nodes are not keeping up to date could be an issue.. it's easy to tell if a server is online and responding but not so easy to tell if the node is getting blocks properly etc.

Then when we click to add a new node, a list of nodes owned by witnesses would popup and we would choose the one we want. Witnesses nodes should be up to date. Or a list of witnesses who processed the last 10 blocks
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Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: xeroc on January 12, 2016, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 03:19:44 PM
How decentralized is BitShares if we depend on OpenLedger service to be up and running? I couldn't use it with the light client too.
Run a business .. setup your own witness nodes and there you go ..
The network is decentralized .. access to the network currently is not ..

I just don't know how to connect to other witness node in case the OpenLedger one that seems to be the default, is down. I don't know which other websocket servers to choose from, where's a list for me to manually input a new one. Couldn't we make it so in case one is down, it automatically redirects to other random node ran by witnesses?

That's not a bad idea.. setup a proxy that monitors available nodes and connects you. The only danger in that is if those nodes are not keeping up to date could be an issue.. it's easy to tell if a server is online and responding but not so easy to tell if the node is getting blocks properly etc.
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
[url="//www.peerplays.com"]www.Peerplays.com[/url] | Decentralized Gaming Built with Graphene - Now with BookiePro and Sweeps!
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

Akado

Quote from: xeroc on January 12, 2016, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 03:19:44 PM
How decentralized is BitShares if we depend on OpenLedger service to be up and running? I couldn't use it with the light client too.
Run a business .. setup your own witness nodes and there you go ..
The network is decentralized .. access to the network currently is not ..

I just don't know how to connect to other witness node in case the OpenLedger one that seems to be the default, is down. I don't know which other websocket servers to choose from, where's a list for me to manually input a new one. Couldn't we make it so in case one is down, it automatically redirects to other random node ran by witnesses?
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bitacer

Quote from: kenCode on January 12, 2016, 04:11:04 PM
I am invested heavily in Obits. @ccedk I would like an update here please.
Was your site hacked, wan down, feds showed up or what?

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Riverhead

#14
Quote from: bitacer on January 12, 2016, 04:07:23 PM
Are there any other websocket servers that we can choose from ?
ws://185.82.203.92:8090 will be up in a few minutes. This is my personal chain server on a dedicated server. I'll leave it public till things stabilise.

kenCode

I am invested heavily in Obits. @ccedk I would like an update here please.
Was your site hacked, wan down, feds showed up or what?
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bitacer

Are there any other websocket servers that we can choose from ?

xeroc

There's no distinct documentation for this yet ..
putting it on my list .

essentially yuo have to do what is written here:
http://docs.bitshares.eu/apps/node.html
Only need to enable the RPC
Then in the settings of your lilght wallet you can change the websocket server to your local full/witness node.
Done

bitacer

Quote from: xeroc on January 12, 2016, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 03:19:44 PM
How decentralized is BitShares if we depend on OpenLedger service to be up and running? I couldn't use it with the light client too.
Run a business .. setup your own witness nodes and there you go ..
The network is decentralized .. access to the network currently is not ..
is that a valid statement for the light wallet too?

bitacer

Quote from: xeroc on January 12, 2016, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 03:19:44 PM
How decentralized is BitShares if we depend on OpenLedger service to be up and running? I couldn't use it with the light client too.
Run a business .. setup your own witness nodes and there you go ..
The network is decentralized .. access to the network currently is not ..

Is there  more detailed instructions about how to that ? thanks

xeroc

Quote from: Akado on January 12, 2016, 03:19:44 PM
How decentralized is BitShares if we depend on OpenLedger service to be up and running? I couldn't use it with the light client too.
Run a business .. setup your own witness nodes and there you go ..
The network is decentralized .. access to the network currently is not ..

Akado

How decentralized is BitShares if we depend on OpenLedger service to be up and running? I couldn't use it with the light client too.
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valzav

Openledger server is down. We are working on restoring it.

JonnyB

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JonnyB

Openledger/bitshares is down for me, anyone else?
I run the @bitshares twitter handle
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