Yunbi started voting against all workers except refund/burn workers

[葫芦娃]

I think the developers have gained enough profit.LINUX strong is not to rely on others to pay wages. I agree with Yunbi.

[freedom]

That's no doubt about that poloniex、btc38 had make a contribution to the BTS，I think they can creat a worker and vote himself ,
Maybe you will say they are crazy ,but The capital market is always crazy.
assuming that some has many BTS, or he can get many votes like this ,creat a worker and vote hinself , but he doesn't work ,so what?
Rely on the moral ? or rely on the rule ?

If this will come sooner or later, better sooner than later. Let them do it, drive the price down, so real believers can buy in cheaper.

You wanted this, didn't you？  @abit

[Samupaha]

you means the BTS price is decide by Bitshares development,and the price go down not by Devs always change rules ?

Yes, of course. Bitshares is a DAC. The value of a DAC comes from customers. If Bitshares doesn't have customers, it's shares don't have any value. And of course we can't get any customers if we don't develop new features that customers want.

When devs are "changing the rules" they are what is expected from them. They make Bitshares better. If you disagree, please explain why so we can avoid making any mistakes.

And not all workers are even "changing the rules", there is for example xeroc who is doing documentation. How the hell you think that existence of documentation will make BTS price go down?!

And now most of the real rule changing happens by the committee. Why you are not complaining about them? There was recently a major change in fees, there were lots of changes. Why that wasn't a bad thing?

[浅蓝~~~]

bm change the total supply of BTS without consent too

What the hell this is supposed to mean?

First, we have now changed to Bitshares 2.0 where Bytemaster has no power to change the supply anymore. Didn't you know that? We made the change last year!

Second, if you didn't like the supply change, why didn't you sell everything and leave the project? If you don't believe in Bitshares anymore, why you are in the forum still? Remember, Bitshares is a DAC so it's like a company. If you think that company is doing badly, you either try to get it to work better or sell your shares. So far anti-Bytemaster gang hasn't offered any improvement proposals so I guess that you don't have any idea how to make Bitshares better.

Attacking against Bitshares with exchange votes to stop the development is probably the most retarded way of action in this situation. It will make the BTS price go down when markets realize that Bitshares development is in danger. Why do you want BTS price to go down? Please, explain.

you means the BTS price is decide by Bitshares development,and the price go down not by Devs always change rules ?

[Erlich Bachman]

Actually, the price of BitShares should go up, because remember when the opposite happened (BitShares diluted to create development)?  What happened to the price?  It went down because Chinese wanted no dilution and they sold.  So now that the Chinese are winning (striving for no dilution), the price will go up because the Chinese got what they wanted, so now they will buy instead of sell.

The Chinese are winning this time, so they will be buying this time no?

You want to make a difference in the Land of BitShares?

Try to convince Poloniex how to vote!

[Shentist]

Meanwhile....

which social contract?

with great power comes great responsibility and when you invest in a coin with votingpower you should ask
if the exchange who votes is voting as you would. So if you agree with yunbi it should be fine to let your
BTS on this exchange, if not you should move your BTS.

I think this shows just how fragile a blockchain is, who the riches decides what we can vote for. this is
the reason why in RL you have for one personen one vote. but the truth is BTS is not a democracy, it is
more like a cooperation, where the biggest stakeholder has the biggest voting power and the rest doesn't count.

[Samupaha]

bm change the total supply of BTS without consent too

What the hell this is supposed to mean?

First, we have now changed to Bitshares 2.0 where Bytemaster has no power to change the supply anymore. Didn't you know that? We made the change last year!

Second, if you didn't like the supply change, why didn't you sell everything and leave the project? If you don't believe in Bitshares anymore, why you are in the forum still? Remember, Bitshares is a DAC so it's like a company. If you think that company is doing badly, you either try to get it to work better or sell your shares. So far anti-Bytemaster gang hasn't offered any improvement proposals so I guess that you don't have any idea how to make Bitshares better.

Attacking against Bitshares with exchange votes to stop the development is probably the most retarded way of action in this situation. It will make the BTS price go down when markets realize that Bitshares development is in danger. Why do you want BTS price to go down? Please, explain.

you have a thief as your comminitee
your man always want get more and more money,
never want to clear the thief,
and said sorry to BTER

Mindphlux doesn't have anything to do with this situation. Pretty much everybody agrees that what he did was wrong.

[liondani]

Yunbi's cold/warm wallet's voting proxy is set to laobao.
Personal suggestion: if you support development , please withdraw your funds from yunbi.

its laomao (not ***bao)

[Moon]

you have a thief as your comminitee
your man always want get more and more money,
never want to clear the thief,
and said sorry to BTER

[浅蓝~~~]

bm change the total supply of BTS without consent too

[Samupaha]

Has anybody got any explanation? My email was replied just:

"Our opinion on voting is based on our community and our customers.
If you don't agree with us, you can withdraw your BTS from yunbi."

WTF? They don't even bother to explain why they are doing it?

Is this some kind of bigger project, with dividend worker, to make BTS price drop dramatically? More attacks coming? So they can buy more BTS with cheaper price? Even that doesn't make any sense, because most of the antidilution gang don't want to continue development on themselves. If markets stop believing that Bitshares can develop to a profitable DAC, how they are planning to get confidence back?

[abit]

I knew something like this would happen when @bitcrab got Yunbi to vote.

I suggest that everybody will tweet (https://twitter.com/yunbicom) and send email (https://yunbi.com/documents/contact) to Yunbi. I already did.

https://twitter.com/samupaha/status/714174291730935808

Maybe we can make them stop voting, that is so horrible use of customer funds that I'd guess they will understand it themselves too. By attacking workers they are trying to stop development of Bitshares, which will cause BTS price to go down, which will cause direct harm to their customers who own BTS.

@Samupaha I'm curious why this tweet doesn't show on your main page https://twitter.com/samupaha?

It's just how twitter works.. you have to go into the tweets & replies area

https://twitter.com/samupaha/with_replies

Got it. Thanks :)

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

Meanwhile....

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

I knew something like this would happen when @bitcrab got Yunbi to vote.

I suggest that everybody will tweet (https://twitter.com/yunbicom) and send email (https://yunbi.com/documents/contact) to Yunbi. I already did.

https://twitter.com/samupaha/status/714174291730935808

Maybe we can make them stop voting, that is so horrible use of customer funds that I'd guess they will understand it themselves too. By attacking workers they are trying to stop development of Bitshares, which will cause BTS price to go down, which will cause direct harm to their customers who own BTS.

@Samupaha I'm curious why this tweet doesn't show on your main page https://twitter.com/samupaha?

It's just how twitter works.. you have to go into the tweets & replies area

https://twitter.com/samupaha/with_replies

[abit]

I knew something like this would happen when @bitcrab got Yunbi to vote.

I suggest that everybody will tweet (https://twitter.com/yunbicom) and send email (https://yunbi.com/documents/contact) to Yunbi. I already did.

https://twitter.com/samupaha/status/714174291730935808

Maybe we can make them stop voting, that is so horrible use of customer funds that I'd guess they will understand it themselves too. By attacking workers they are trying to stop development of Bitshares, which will cause BTS price to go down, which will cause direct harm to their customers who own BTS.

@Samupaha I'm curious why this tweet doesn't show on your main page https://twitter.com/samupaha?