[Worker Proposal] Chronos Crypto videos

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mint chocolate chip

Quote from: xeroc on May 19, 2016, 01:30:49 PM
Quote from: mint chocolate chip on May 19, 2016, 12:59:23 PM
The referral program sounds good on paper, but after the fees were adjusted it has become pretty much worthless. The top two leading referrers have ~1,600 referred accounts between them and less than a few thousand bts vesting (referral income) each.
I disagree. All it takes it so convince people to upgrade to LTM. Once people see the value in LTM the referral program will be worth it.
Quote from: Chronos on May 19, 2016, 02:46:52 PM
Quote from: xeroc on May 19, 2016, 01:30:49 PMAll it takes it so convince people to upgrade to LTM.
In other words, all it takes is to convince people of something that is currently unlikely: that being an LTM will be long-term profitable because of fee savings and referral fees. I'd agree that the referral system probably isn't compelling for most people right now, if they understand the fee structure.

With the drastically reduced fees, there is really no point to upgrade!!! The way I look at it, saving 80% on what is almost a free trade amounts to minimal savings. Spending a bunch of your capital to upgrade to LTM just doesn't make a lot of sense anymore.
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dannotestein

Quote from: Chronos on May 19, 2016, 05:49:15 PM
Quote from: dannotestein on May 19, 2016, 05:29:26 PM
Quote from: Chronos on May 19, 2016, 02:46:52 PM
Quote from: dannotestein on May 19, 2016, 03:01:00 AM
Assuming the community has the right to distribute the videos for promotional purposes, I/BlockTrades would vote for your worker.
I'd prefer the videos stay on the Chronos Crypto channel, but any hotlinking or embedding would be fine. Is that the kind of distributing you had in mind?
I don't mind normally using links, but my concern is that you or youtube could always remove those videos at any time. Would you be willing to give the community the source videos in the unlikely case they are no longer accessible via your youtube account for some reason?
That's a valid concern. I'd be happy to make the .mp4 video files temporarily available to the community as a backup, provided that they are not posted or distributed outside the Chronos Crypto Youtube Channel (unless that channel becomes unavailable and I provide no reasonable equivalent alternative).
Sounds fine to me.
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Chronos

Quote from: dannotestein on May 19, 2016, 05:29:26 PM
Quote from: Chronos on May 19, 2016, 02:46:52 PM
Quote from: dannotestein on May 19, 2016, 03:01:00 AM
Assuming the community has the right to distribute the videos for promotional purposes, I/BlockTrades would vote for your worker.
I'd prefer the videos stay on the Chronos Crypto channel, but any hotlinking or embedding would be fine. Is that the kind of distributing you had in mind?
I don't mind normally using links, but my concern is that you or youtube could always remove those videos at any time. Would you be willing to give the community the source videos in the unlikely case they are no longer accessible via your youtube account for some reason?
That's a valid concern. I'd be happy to make the .mp4 video files temporarily available to the community as a backup, provided that they are not posted or distributed outside the Chronos Crypto Youtube Channel (unless that channel becomes unavailable and I provide no reasonable equivalent alternative).

dannotestein

Quote from: Chronos on May 19, 2016, 02:46:52 PM
Quote from: dannotestein on May 19, 2016, 03:01:00 AM
Assuming the community has the right to distribute the videos for promotional purposes, I/BlockTrades would vote for your worker.
I'd prefer the videos stay on the Chronos Crypto channel, but any hotlinking or embedding would be fine. Is that the kind of distributing you had in mind?
I don't mind normally using links, but my concern is that you or youtube could always remove those videos at any time. Would you be willing to give the community the source videos in the unlikely case they are no longer accessible via your youtube account for some reason?
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cube

Great to see that you are creating a business out on bitshares.  The video productions would benefit your Chronos Crypto channel (is it paid via youtube advertisements?) and the bitshares ecosystem. A win-win prosposition.  +5%

It is regretable that you find the bitshares' referral system not working/not helping your endeavour.  The bitshares referral system is specifically designed to reward people who promote bts to targetted market segments.  If it is not working as it should, the community and the committee have a duty to fix it and make it work again.  Please do spend some time to go through the referral program and see how it can support your business.  I like to see this turn into a successful partnership.


Quote from: Chronos on May 19, 2016, 02:46:52 PM
Quote from: dannotestein on May 19, 2016, 03:01:00 AM
Assuming the community has the right to distribute the videos for promotional purposes, I/BlockTrades would vote for your worker.
I'd prefer the videos stay on the Chronos Crypto channel, but any hotlinking or embedding would be fine. Is that the kind of distributing you had in mind?


Quote from: xeroc on May 19, 2016, 01:30:49 PMAll it takes it so convince people to upgrade to LTM.
In other words, all it takes is to convince people of something that is currently unlikely: that being an LTM will be long-term profitable because of fee savings and referral fees. I'd agree that the referral system probably isn't compelling for most people right now, if they understand the fee structure.





Good feedback. Keep it coming!
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Quote from: dannotestein on May 19, 2016, 03:01:00 AM
Assuming the community has the right to distribute the videos for promotional purposes, I/BlockTrades would vote for your worker.
I'd prefer the videos stay on the Chronos Crypto channel, but any hotlinking or embedding would be fine. Is that the kind of distributing you had in mind?

Quote from: xeroc on May 19, 2016, 06:36:19 AM
* If you focus on OpenLedger, then Openledger should pay you.
If I use https://bitshares.org/wallet for walkthroughs, and demonstrate with Smartcoins like BitBTC rather than OPEN.BTC, then is any part of the work "focused" on OpenLedger?

Quote from: xeroc on May 19, 2016, 06:36:19 AM
* I would love to see (already in the very beginning) an explanation video that distinguishes BitShares from OpenLedger/FreedomLedger/MakerX(and whatever comes next).
Well, that's tricky. For many people, that's like the difference between someone's browser, and the Internet. Here, one is the blockchain, and one is how you interact with it. I'll think about the best way to explain this.

Quote from: svk on May 19, 2016, 01:15:03 PM
Great idea, I would definitely support this.
Thank you!

Quote from: xeroc on May 19, 2016, 01:30:49 PMAll it takes it so convince people to upgrade to LTM.
In other words, all it takes is to convince people of something that is currently unlikely: that being an LTM will be long-term profitable because of fee savings and referral fees. I'd agree that the referral system probably isn't compelling for most people right now, if they understand the fee structure.

Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on May 19, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Videos need to be evergreen and need to focus on the value proposition Bitshares provides.
By "evergreen" I think you mean that the videos need to focus on things that won't make them obsolete. I definitely agree with this, and I always keep it in mind when I'm making videos.




Good feedback. Keep it coming!

BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode

Quote from: xeroc on May 19, 2016, 06:36:19 AM
Quote from: onceuponatime on May 19, 2016, 03:11:22 AM
@xeroc, do you?
I totally do!

Though I have some critiques on it:

* If you focus on OpenLedger, then Openledger should pay you.
* I would love to see (already in the very beginning) an explanation video that distinguishes BitShares from OpenLedger/FreedomLedger/MakerX(and whatever comes next). This is where we TOTALLY failed. People believe BitShares is owned bit OpenLedger.
* Then I would like to see more walk-throughs and don't think we need all the tech lectures just yet. Tell people how to do things, then tell people how it works later on. There is documentation (in text form) for this already, so I don't think we needs this just yet.

Go for it!

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Videos need to be evergreen and need to focus on the value proposition Bitshares provides.

That would be supportable as a worker.

These videos also would/should integrate into the bitshares.org website as part of our content and be fashioned as such.
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xeroc

Quote from: mint chocolate chip on May 19, 2016, 12:59:23 PM
The referral program sounds good on paper, but after the fees were adjusted it has become pretty much worthless. The top two leading referrers have ~1,600 referred accounts between them and less than a few thousand bts vesting (referral income) each.
I disagree. All it takes it so convince people to upgrade to LTM. Once people see the value in LTM the referral program will be worth it.

svk

Great idea, I would definitely support this.

I agree with Xeroc though that it would be great to have a video making clear the distinction between Bitshares and Openledger. And if it's paid by worker it would be best if the videos used either the light wallet or bitshares.org/wallet.

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mint chocolate chip

Quote from: abit on May 19, 2016, 12:01:14 PM
OP: do you know the referral program which is built inside BitShares and how to use it? It can probably bring you more income if used in the videos.

The referral program sounds good on paper, but after the fees were adjusted it has become pretty much worthless. The top two leading referrers have ~1,600 referred accounts between them and less than a few thousand bts vesting (referral income) each.
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abit

OP: do you know the referral program which is built inside BitShares and how to use it? It can probably bring you more income if used in the videos.
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Bhuz

Quote from: xeroc on May 19, 2016, 06:36:19 AM
Quote from: onceuponatime on May 19, 2016, 03:11:22 AM
@xeroc, do you?
I totally do!

Though I have some critiques on it:

* If you focus on OpenLedger, then Openledger should pay you.
* I would love to see (already in the very beginning) an explanation video that distinguishes BitShares from OpenLedger/FreedomLedger/MakerX(and whatever comes next). This is where we TOTALLY failed. People believe BitShares is owned bit OpenLedger.
* Then I would like to see more walk-throughs and don't think we need all the tech lectures just yet. Tell people how to do things, then tell people how it works later on. There is documentation (in text form) for this already, so I don't think we needs this just yet.

Go for it!

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xeroc

Quote from: onceuponatime on May 19, 2016, 03:11:22 AM
@xeroc, do you?
I totally do!

Though I have some critiques on it:

* If you focus on OpenLedger, then Openledger should pay you.
* I would love to see (already in the very beginning) an explanation video that distinguishes BitShares from OpenLedger/FreedomLedger/MakerX(and whatever comes next). This is where we TOTALLY failed. People believe BitShares is owned bit OpenLedger.
* Then I would like to see more walk-throughs and don't think we need all the tech lectures just yet. Tell people how to do things, then tell people how it works later on. There is documentation (in text form) for this already, so I don't think we needs this just yet.

Go for it!

onceuponatime

I have proxied my vote to Xeroc. I support this effort. @xeroc, do you?