the closest ive found so far is an old quark coin miner thats been reconstituted, and its 32 bit so it might work on these old comps, if not then its fine, ill just use my Acer. Im actually turning one of the 4 comps i found into a mega tower, and was going to use this "mining farm" to actually fund the build, seems ill have to make do with my Acer and maybe the family ToSHITa and see what i come up with. thanks for your help and ill post back if this quark miner works