Airdrop Ideas

[bitbro]

If you are going to have it play out over 52 weeks you might as well get a new scratch-off ticket every week, so you get to think about it 52 times...

I guess this would be called an "air drip".   

"air drip"


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[Stan]

If you are going to have it play out over 52 weeks you might as well get a new scratch-off ticket every week, so you get to think about it 52 times...

I guess this would be called an "air drip".   

[luckybit]

Here are even more ideas people have not listed about snapshot airdrops.

You could make the airdrop expire in some manner.  Say 365 days worth of blocks later, the network churns through addresses and finds all wallets with no transfer.  Although that becomes hard to work in with the "can not transfer until X time" feature to prevent dumping.  This however removes all the dead/inefficient shares.  Which is the same thing the "claim" procedure does.

Airdrop/snapshot wallets can have random amounts.  The downside here is that you miss out on some customers who might have ended up being quality contributors to the market.  The upside is that the random amounts put in wallets add as an incentive for people to go look.  Maybe you had .0001 BTC but you might have $50 in USD equity after snapshot/airdrop.  I think it would add to the tweets, although a lot of people will be let down.  It does let you get substantial amounts to some % of people.  What it does do is add a sense of fun.  Instead of claiming your $.50, you look in your wallet to see if you have more.  It is something akin to airdropping scratch off tickets.

You could put up a few rather substantial winners so that the odds are it would take time for all grand winners to be claimed.  In that way you may possibly start a vibe going about trying to find who hasn't redeemed their shares.  It would be like a lotto, where it is known someone has won a fortune but no one yet knows who has won.

If you have a gaming DAC, perhaps you could write it so that the shares can only be transacted with the game server itself.  In effect, a freeplay type coupon like you might see at a casino.  This might work with other DACs too.

THis is why seeding btc owners etc useful for certain types of markets.  You're going to have a hard sell getting people who aren't already in the cryptoworld to buy in.  When a person has any existing crypto wallet, they're already customers of the greater crypto-system.  The fit is natural.

 

[bitbro]

I know DA is dan but honestly I was hoping it was Satoshi Nakamoto before I realized


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[bitbro]

I don't know who I like more, DA or BM:))


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[Stan]

Now is Decentralized Application BM?
I am a simple guy...

Stan perhaps?

Neither one of us can write that well.   

[jae208]

Now is Decentralized Application BM?
I am a simple guy...

Stan perhaps?

[gamey]

Here are even more ideas people have not listed about snapshot airdrops.

You could make the airdrop expire in some manner.  Say 365 days worth of blocks later, the network churns through addresses and finds all wallets with no transfer.  Although that becomes hard to work in with the "can not transfer until X time" feature to prevent dumping.  This however removes all the dead/inefficient shares.  Which is the same thing the "claim" procedure does.

Airdrop/snapshot wallets can have random amounts.  The downside here is that you miss out on some customers who might have ended up being quality contributors to the market.  The upside is that the random amounts put in wallets add as an incentive for people to go look.  Maybe you had .0001 BTC but you might have $50 in USD equity after snapshot/airdrop.  I think it would add to the tweets, although a lot of people will be let down.  It does let you get substantial amounts to some % of people.  What it does do is add a sense of fun.  Instead of claiming your $.50, you look in your wallet to see if you have more.  It is something akin to airdropping scratch off tickets.

You could put up a few rather substantial winners so that the odds are it would take time for all grand winners to be claimed.  In that way you may possibly start a vibe going about trying to find who hasn't redeemed their shares.  It would be like a lotto, where it is known someone has won a fortune but no one yet knows who has won.

If you have a gaming DAC, perhaps you could write it so that the shares can only be transacted with the game server itself.  In effect, a freeplay type coupon like you might see at a casino.  This might work with other DACs too.

THis is why seeding btc owners etc useful for certain types of markets.  You're going to have a hard sell getting people who aren't already in the cryptoworld to buy in.  When a person has any existing crypto wallet, they're already customers of the greater crypto-system.  The fit is natural.

[luckybit]

我觉得直接将10%赠送给其它dac，不如把这部分资金留下来，由3i管理操作，用作具体的宣传推广费用。

I think the 10% gifts to the other DAC, as this part of the funds to stay, management by the 3I operation, as a specific promotional costs.

这样更有针对性，根据实际情况来灵活操作。实际效果应该会更好。

So more specific, according to the actual situation of flexible operation. Actual results should be better.

赠送给其它dac的效果还不得而知，风险是有的。

Gifts to the other DAC effect also can make nothing of it, some risk.

10%是个大数目，请慎重考虑。

10% is a large number, please consider carefully.

第三方开发的dac赠送来募资有道理。

Third party development from DAC to raise.

但是3i自己的dac对社区影响很大，要更谨慎点。

But 3I's own DAC has a great impact on the community, to be more discreet.

看好dns的自会在快照前购入pts或是竞投ags，通过和我们一样的方式支持3i来获得股权。

Since the snapshot before buying PTS or AGS value is for DNS, the same way we support 3I to obtain equity.

而不是免费得，免费得的不一定会珍惜和使用，不见得对dac的成长起到多少作用。甚至可能是起反作用。

Not free, free is not necessarily will cherish and use, not necessarily how much effect on DAC growth. May even be counterproductive.

如果出现抛售换披萨的现象，对先前投资pts和ags获取快照的人是不公平的。

If the sell-off in pizza phenomenon, is unfair to the previous investment in PTS and AGS get snapshot.

我对负面影响考虑得多点，请各位理解

More I consider the negative effects, please understand

 

[suzhu01]

我觉得直接将10%赠送给其它dac，不如把这部分资金留下来，由3i管理操作，用作具体的宣传推广费用。

I think the 10% gifts to the other DAC, as this part of the funds to stay, management by the 3I operation, as a specific promotional costs.

这样更有针对性，根据实际情况来灵活操作。实际效果应该会更好。

So more specific, according to the actual situation of flexible operation. Actual results should be better.

赠送给其它dac的效果还不得而知，风险是有的。

Gifts to the other DAC effect also can make nothing of it, some risk.

10%是个大数目，请慎重考虑。

10% is a large number, please consider carefully.

第三方开发的dac赠送来募资有道理。

Third party development from DAC to raise.

但是3i自己的dac对社区影响很大，要更谨慎点。

But 3I's own DAC has a great impact on the community, to be more discreet.

看好dns的自会在快照前购入pts或是竞投ags，通过和我们一样的方式支持3i来获得股权。

Since the snapshot before buying PTS or AGS value is for DNS, the same way we support 3I to obtain equity.

而不是免费得，免费得的不一定会珍惜和使用，不见得对dac的成长起到多少作用。甚至可能是起反作用。

Not free, free is not necessarily will cherish and use, not necessarily how much effect on DAC growth. May even be counterproductive.

如果出现抛售换披萨的现象，对先前投资pts和ags获取快照的人是不公平的。

If the sell-off in pizza phenomenon, is unfair to the previous investment in PTS and AGS get snapshot.

我对负面影响考虑得多点，请各位理解

More I consider the negative effects, please understand

[CLains]

We should do the simplest and best thing first, and concentrate on it for now. What concrete suggestions do people have? It should be a community perceived as fair, that have understanding users, and perhaps other things. It would be a huge plus if they were interested and engaged with the idea.

Could we improve upon Faircoin?
Dogecoin? (Viral value, and the message would get out)
Or perhaps approach Baritus on Digitalcoin?
... I don't have that many good suggestions.

[gamey]

I like half-life & especially like the idea of marketing it to the top 10 alt-coins (excl. large pre-mine.) For me it's not just because many Bitcoin owners are alt-coin snobs but mathematically our airdrop will at best give the avg. Bitcoin owner a couple of cents but could give the average alt-coiner a $1+

I agree, but this just means bitcoin has a wider variety of users.

Add criteria.  On the blockchain snapshot, look for activity in past Z time, and a balance over X amount and below Y amount.

The other option is to scale the balances logarithmicaly. (sp?)   I'd still get rid of wallets with inconsequential amounts and wallets with large amounts.

The goal is not to preserve the wealth of btc holders, the goal is to distribute interest in Bitshares as effectively as possible.   Airdrops are for using the blockchain as a mailing list, not as a some form of wealth reinforcement.  That is basically whats going on when anyone wants a 1:1 ratio of account balances.

The larger accounts have a far larger incentive to redeem their funds.  Each 'whale' might prevent numerous other people from receiving their airdrop.  This is simply not the goal of the airdrop.  It is not socialism or any nonsense like that.  It is purely business and in the interests of Bitshares to not pay an airdrop at 1:1.

[FreeTrade]

- I think you had it right in another post that market is coming round to developers getting a fairer share for their work. A developer who got 5% pre-mine would be seen much better in the eyes of the community than developers who organised a big airdrop in such a way that it left them with a 5% stake because of unclaimed shares.

Agree - also recommend a vesting period for a dev premine

[xeroc]

A lot of discussion on airdrops has been going on recently and I would like to add a new twist. 

1) I like the half life concept... 50% drop every month until balance is below 1 BIP.
2) Unclaimed air-drop funds should be sent to developers.
3) Altcoin owners are likely more valuable than BTC owners because BTC-only owners are usually altcoin snobs.
4) I recommend honoring all of the top 10 bitcoin-based alt-coins proportional to market cap.  This will get the widest possible airdrop.
5) Don't honor coins with large pre-mines...

If you set this up right, the developers can avoid any accusations of 'pre-mine' because everyone had an opportunity to claim it, unclaimed funds go to devs... this also solves the problem of dead coins being honored.

I like half-life & especially like the idea of marketing it to the top 10 alt-coins (excl. large pre-mine.) For me it's not just because many Bitcoin owners are alt-coin snobs but mathematically our airdrop will at best give the avg. Bitcoin owner a couple of cents but could give the average alt-coiner a $1+

I dislike the idea of unclaimed funds going to developers. This incentivises developers to promote large airdrops where there will be few claimants.

- I think you had it right in another post that market is coming round to developers getting a fairer share for their work. A developer who got 5% pre-mine would be seen much better in the eyes of the community than developers who organised a big airdrop in such a way that it left them with a 5% stake because of unclaimed shares.

- If the unclaimed shares are destroyed, then the community can risk quite big attractive headline grabbing airdrops knowing that given only X% will claim, the actual airdrop will be much smaller.

Good point!

[Empirical1]

A lot of discussion on airdrops has been going on recently and I would like to add a new twist. 

1) I like the half life concept... 50% drop every month until balance is below 1 BIP.
2) Unclaimed air-drop funds should be sent to developers.
3) Altcoin owners are likely more valuable than BTC owners because BTC-only owners are usually altcoin snobs.
4) I recommend honoring all of the top 10 bitcoin-based alt-coins proportional to market cap.  This will get the widest possible airdrop.
5) Don't honor coins with large pre-mines...

If you set this up right, the developers can avoid any accusations of 'pre-mine' because everyone had an opportunity to claim it, unclaimed funds go to devs... this also solves the problem of dead coins being honored.

I like half-life & especially like the idea of marketing it to the top 10 alt-coins (excl. large pre-mine.) For me it's not just because many Bitcoin owners are alt-coin snobs but mathematically our airdrop will at best give the avg. Bitcoin owner a couple of cents but could give the average alt-coiner a $1+

I dislike the idea of unclaimed funds going to developers. This incentivises developers to promote large airdrops where there will be few claimants.

- I think you had it right in another post that market is coming round to developers getting a fairer share for their work. A developer who got 5% pre-mine would be seen much better in the eyes of the community than developers who organised a big airdrop in such a way that it left them with a 5% stake because of unclaimed shares.

- If the unclaimed shares are destroyed, then the community can risk quite big attractive headline grabbing airdrops knowing that given only X% will claim, the actual airdrop will be much smaller.