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Tuck Fheman

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I used to work in a payday loan place where I had to handle what (to me) was an awful lot of money. (I was a dough hoe)

That dinky stack does not look like a million to me. It doesn't even look like 100,000. Even if it's all in hundreds.

It's 100 packets of $10,000.

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For those of you who say this is not a multi trillion dollar industry. You are simply misinformed banking is exactly that, a multi trillion dollar industry. So a global bank that allows individuals to hold deposits in whatever assets they want and send those assets around the world as easily and as quickly as sending an email trumps all traditional competitors. As far as delivering on a product. I have seen what the team has done thus far and it is substantial. To be honest the hardest part about putting these networks together is not coding but rather designing the system. Bitshares is merely integrating technologies that have been around for a couple decades and should be used ubiquitously throughout all industries already. The competition just doesn't really get the economic implications, which is why I gravitated towards bitshares.

You can complain all you want about development, but if you did not complain before you should not be complaining now when the team is more active than any other in the space. I encourage you to look at other forums and other githubs. You will simply not find a more active community and or development team anywhere else. Also Adam do not tell me I am clueless when you blindly support every team in the crypto space without regard for the talent of their developers or the comparative value of their product. From what I remember you have backed Swarm, MaidSafe, and Mastercoin. All three of which are non-investments. You can only lose money on them and that is not something I needed to discern in retrospect.

I want to get more information on eMunie but at the moment I am not convinced that it is anywhere close to what bitshares has. Firstly, its coded in java which I'm not too keen on. I cannot find its source code and I would never invest in crypto network this is not opensource. I cannot find information on its development team, which I assume is far smaller than bitshares. Also their forum is pretty much non existent. You have to understand that every network is only as good as the community that supports it. Laslty, if you are still trying to invest in "currencies" your in the wrong place. This is about investing in companies.

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Downloaded it. Run it. I get a Blue window that says loading configuration, then it closes and nothing happens. I dont want to clog the other thread with this, which is probably trivial, but I cant figure out what is going on. It did this for the last windows GUI too. For me that is.

Yes it is probably shutting down because of files left over from the last Dry Run...   Look for the BitShares XTS directory on your system and delete it.  It should be where ever windows apps store their data files by default.  Post in the other thread for help.
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I used to work in a payday loan place where I had to handle what (to me) was an awful lot of money. (I was a dough hoe)

That dinky stack does not look like a million to me. It doesn't even look like 100,000. Even if it's all in hundreds.



Tuck Fheman

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Why do you wait when we are actively testing the network? To say that they have not produced a product is to not understand the nature of the product they are producing. First and foremost, over the past 4 weeks or so there have been 5 iterations of test networks each becoming successively better in the same way that each of BM's realizations about designing theses systems has become successively better. The true impediment both in design and development was shaking off the popular misconception that these system are reliant upon math and not fundamentally human interaction. When you understand that you can automate a shareholder run company using p2p open source network the possibilities abound and you realize that the competitors that many have cited in this thread and others are not competitors at all. No one is doing what Bitshares is doing. It is not about perfection, it is simply about realizing what has made companies successful for thousands of year hitherto. When you put those characteristics on a blockchain you realize that we are upon the precipice of the Napster of finance and every other industry that uses internet for its operation. Sean Parker once said "A million dollars isn't cool. You know what is? A billion dollars." Well I say to you now a billion dollars isn't cool. You know what is a trillion dollars!
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You know what is a trillion dollars!


No human being can actually imagine what a trillion dollars is… most of us cannot imagine a billion dollars, btw.

We know what the number means, but real billion dollars…it is just a number – 1 followed by a bunch of zeroes, not real money !

But this is beside the point go on….


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Downloaded it. Run it. I get a Blue window that says loading configuration, then it closes and nothing happens. I dont want to clog the other thread with this, which is probably trivial, but I cant figure out what is going on. It did this for the last windows GUI too. For me that is.

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there is simply no one that has taken on more risk than the founders

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Unfortunately,  not everyone has all of their daily living expenses covered by crowd funded money and so don't have the same amount of free time to focus on this all day.

The thing is that while I am very confident that Bitshares will be executed successfuly there is still that possibility that it won't and so I'm not going to put all my eggs into this one basket. Maybe that will change once there is at least one successful DAC.

Also, given that I am not a salaried I3 or DAC employee it makes much more sense for me to just wait, be a freeloader and say less.

The reason I wrote about how it would be nice to be able to sell AGS is because the inability to do so makes 'investors' take on a greater share of the risk than I3 employees/founders. Suppose things were to go south you're screwed and there would be nothing you could do.

At any rate, I'm really not pessimistic about the progress so far and I look forward to the coming weeks and months.
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Ggozzo

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If you know than why are you still acting like you don't understand? Why are you acting like people with complaints should just get over it and shut up?

What we need is people getting involved and helping, not standing around complaining.



Obviously we are people and more transparent than most and thus easier targets.   That said no one wants this done faster and better than our team and if we had a way to make it better we would.   

So I think what people are really saying is this is a team effort and you can support the effort with your time, skills, money, and positive support.   Positive suggestions and initiative are what is necessary.   If you think someone thinks they can code something faster then do it and I will support them 100%.

I'd like to help, just waiting for the windows GUI.

I suspect a lot of the people complaining are waiting on the same thing.

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If you know than why are you still acting like you don't understand? Why are you acting like people with complaints should just get over it and shut up?

What we need is people getting involved and helping, not standing around complaining.



Obviously we are people and more transparent than most and thus easier targets.   That said no one wants this done faster and better than our team and if we had a way to make it better we would.   

So I think what people are really saying is this is a team effort and you can support the effort with your time, skills, money, and positive support.   Positive suggestions and initiative are what is necessary.   If you think someone thinks they can code something faster then do it and I will support them 100%.

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Offline yellowecho

For those of you who say this is not a multi trillion dollar industry. You are simply misinformed banking is exactly that, a multi trillion dollar industry. So a global bank that allows individuals to hold deposits in whatever assets they want and send those assets around the world as easily and as quickly as sending an email trumps all traditional competitors. As far as delivering on a product. I have seen what the team has done thus far and it is substantial. To be honest the hardest part about putting these networks together is not coding but rather designing the system. Bitshares is merely integrating technologies that have been around for a couple decades and should be used ubiquitously throughout all industries already. The competition just doesn't really get the economic implications, which is why I gravitated towards bitshares.
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