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Need Help Sourcing Information on BitShares
« on: June 24, 2014, 12:33:43 AM »

Now that I'm newly retired, I'd like to finish the second edition of my udemy class. It will include a section on the 2.0 space and I'd love to include BitShares. Could you guys please compile a list of reading materials and resources so I can fairly represent the BitShares ecosystem and also would an XT developer please add me to skype Charles_Hoskinson. I'll probably have some questions in a few weeks once I'm actively working on it.

Cheers,
Charles

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Re: Need Help Sourcing Information on BitShares
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2014, 12:52:38 AM »
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Re: Need Help Sourcing Information on BitShares
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2014, 12:56:47 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2014, 01:00:40 AM »
I understand you're looking for information so this won't help - it's all scattered and someone else will have to find the relevant resources. This is just telling that "someone else" what to compile for you.

Major points:

* DACs earn income / pay dividends by charging their own shares for services / destroying them.
* DPOS
* Snapshot allocation model

Minor points:

* Market Peg
* TITAN

starting points:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=4563.0
http://bitshares.org/blog
http://bitshares.org/delegated-proof-of-stake/  (outdated)
https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares_toolkit/wiki
Do not use this post as information for making any important decisions. The only agreements I ever make are informal and non-binding. Take the same precautions as when dealing with a compromised account, scammer, sockpuppet, etc.

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Re: Need Help Sourcing Information on BitShares
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2014, 01:02:01 AM »
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I understand you're looking for information so this won't help - it's all scattered and someone else will have to find the relevant resources. This is just telling that "someone else" what to compile for you.

Major points:

* DACs earn income / pay dividends by charging their own shares for services / destroying them.
* DPOS
* Snapshot allocation model

Minor points:

* Market Peg
* TITAN

starting points:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=4563.0
http://bitshares.org/blog
http://bitshares.org/delegated-proof-of-stake/  (outdated)
https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares_toolkit/wiki

Who in the community has been tasked with education?

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Re: Need Help Sourcing Information on BitShares
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2014, 01:12:53 AM »
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I understand you're looking for information so this won't help - it's all scattered and someone else will have to find the relevant resources. This is just telling that "someone else" what to compile for you.

Major points:

* DACs earn income / pay dividends by charging their own shares for services / destroying them.
* DPOS
* Snapshot allocation model

Minor points:

* Market Peg
* TITAN

starting points:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=4563.0
http://bitshares.org/blog
http://bitshares.org/delegated-proof-of-stake/  (outdated)
https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares_toolkit/wiki

Who in the community has been tasked with education?

lol. You expect too much.
Do not use this post as information for making any important decisions. The only agreements I ever make are informal and non-binding. Take the same precautions as when dealing with a compromised account, scammer, sockpuppet, etc.

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Re: Need Help Sourcing Information on BitShares
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2014, 01:14:05 AM »
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lol. You expect too much.
Lol, how many millions did you guys raise again? Alright, well this is going to be a fun exercise.

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Re: Need Help Sourcing Information on BitShares
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2014, 01:15:50 AM »
Now that I'm newly retired, I'd like to finish the second edition of my udemy class. It will include a section on the 2.0 space and I'd love to include BitShares. Could you guys please compile a list of reading materials and resources so I can fairly represent the BitShares ecosystem and also would an XT developer please add me to skype Charles_Hoskinson. I'll probably have some questions in a few weeks once I'm actively working on it.

Cheers,
Charles

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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2014, 01:17:16 AM »
xeroc has posted some "all you need to know about..." articles:

[TechTalk] All you need to know ... about Voting in DPOS

[TechTalk] All you need to know ... about TITAN

[TechTalk] All you need to know ... about AngelShares

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?board=45.0

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Re: Need Help Sourcing Information on BitShares
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 01:18:48 AM »
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Feel free to call me with any questions or drop by The Bridge for an in-depth discussion.

 :)

I might drop by VA sometime in July. In the meantime, let's get a skype setup sometime this week. PM me. 

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Re: Need Help Sourcing Information on BitShares
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2014, 07:09:12 AM »
xeroc has posted some "all you need to know about..." articles:

[TechTalk] All you need to know ... about Voting in DPOS
[TechTalk] All you need to know ... about TITAN
[TechTalk] All you need to know ... about AngelShares

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?board=45.0
These are basically technical talks .. AFAIR someone is writing about the economical parts (the market peg) right now
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=4563.0;all
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Re: Need Help Sourcing Information on BitShares
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2014, 09:17:59 PM »
thank you toast for taking time out of your schedule today to answer a few questions

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Re: Need Help Sourcing Information on BitShares
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2014, 10:22:33 PM »
Charles, are you asking if there is an opportunity for you to rejoin the fold?

I don't know how irreparable the damage was when you broke away but i followed you and bytemaster from the first threads on bitcointalk and it was the two of you together that made me an investor. I believe you have a set of skills which is not present in the current team. I have seen threads by bytemaster where he too has said as much.

I worry from an outsider is why don't you stick with a project? Are you not a tam player?, seems a strange mix with the skills you have. I would love to hear your views on this and others.

Good luck whatever you do next

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Re: Need Help Sourcing Information on BitShares
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2014, 10:49:47 PM »
thank you toast for taking time out of your schedule today to answer a few questions

Charles, welcome back!
Nice to here you newly retired.

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Re: Need Help Sourcing Information on BitShares
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2014, 11:21:46 PM »
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Charles, are you asking if there is an opportunity for you to rejoin the fold?
No

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I don't know how irreparable the damage was when you broke away but i followed you and bytemaster from the first threads on bitcointalk and it was the two of you together that made me an investor. I believe you have a set of skills which is not present in the current team. I have seen threads by bytemaster where he too has said as much.

I appreciate that Stuart. I'm sorry it didn't work out the way you expected. It didn't for me either. But that's how life works and I think everyone has learned a lot as well as grown over the past year.



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I worry from an outsider is why don't you stick with a project? Are you not a tam player?, seems a strange mix with the skills you have. I would love to hear your views on this and others.


I'm quite the team player and I generally do stick with project. I never intended on joining Ethereum full time because I was still recovering from leaving Invictus; however, I ended up getting drawn in when it was clear that the project needed some of my skills. That said, it's now global, soon to be well funded and has a deep bench of talent. Also Ethereum is now a not for profit venture meaning I'd just be a salary man if I stayed. They are in great hands and don't need me anymore.

In terms of Invictus, I really have no desire to return. It's not the company I started anymore. The business strategy, technology, marketing and branding is totally different. The product lines are different and totally untested. The development processes are far to scattered, undocumented and spaghetti codish for my taste (I'm a scrum guy who likes rich documentation and lots of beta testing).

If I returned, then I would try to fix things I feel are problems, but it's clear that wouldn't work well for the current team and substantially delay the release of BitShares X. This house has always belonged to Dan for better or worse.

I'm just interested in finishing my course as it's been something left on the table for almost a year now. It would be unfair not to include Bitshares and the DAC concept in the 2.0 section, which is why I reached out to you guys to make sure I accurately represent it.

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Good luck whatever you do next

I appreciate that. Most likely returning to mathematics to study some interesting developments in graph theory as well as complex adaptive systems. J. Miller and Page wrote a wonderful book on the topic and some of my colleagues at CU are enjoying a dense set of problems.

There is also the Cryptocurrency scalability concern, which appears to be resolvable via SCIP and ZKP using a heterogeneous network of miniblockchains only megabytes in size permitting a masterchain in the petabytes . Improvements to the ghost concept could allow for 5-10 second confirmation times. It's a fun problem to think about and there are so many cryptographic tools just sitting on the shelf collecting dust that could be used in experiments.

It would also be nice to have a phonegap style compatibility framework to allow a single JS, HTML5, CSS3 codebase to deploy DApps running on multiple 2.0 protocols such as color coins, counterparty, Ethereum, etc. The Etherbrowser will likely get forked and used as the reference client for all the 2.0 coins thanks to the quality of its codebase, the decentralized app store and the UX/UI. It makes sense that someone would develop a way to deploy a DApp on multiple protocols at the same time.

Lots to think about Stuart.
Cheers

 

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