Spend 10K on angel and pts, for almost half a year. the return rate is only 0.1%

[solaaire]

Did you have a balance on BTER or are you just using them as a price point?
They should have scaled anyone's balance on the account already

i am acutally waiting for an official wallet, then start trade, prolly with a tutorial.

i tried the current wallet, crashes a lot time.

i just wanna be safe

good idea

[solaaire]

i give no happy questions, you ppl give me happy endings. everyone happy

:-*

[omgomgomg]

Did you have a balance on BTER or are you just using them as a price point?
They should have scaled anyone's balance on the account already

i am acutally waiting for an official wallet, then start trade, prolly with a tutorial.

i tried the current wallet, crashes a lot time.

i just wanna be safe

[omgomgomg]

Did you have a balance on BTER or are you just using them as a price point?
They should have scaled anyone's balance on the account already

i haven't claimed my shares yet. i know how many i will have. since im not a programming guy, thus im not familiar with the bitshares wallet usage now.

the shares will also scaled up or only when i deposit into bter？

[CLains]

i give no happy questions, you ppl give me happy endings. everyone happy

:-*

[omgomgomg]

If the price was .02% of the value a day ago I'd be so happy.  I wouldn't have even posted.  Instead i would have headed straight for my BTC wallet to buy up as much as I possibly could...  I'd pretty much be set for life.

;D Let's your dreams come true!

P.S. If they do not hurt mine!

P.S.S I would have posted first, cause I am a good guy.

P.S.S.S Or maybe I would have not....

im not a bad guy..... i am not hurting u when i upset!

omg , Where did I mention you in the above post?  ???
[/quote]

P.S.S I would have posted first, cause I am a good guy.

i posted first, ur not cause ur a good guy. that could lead to implications on something!!!  :)

[omgomgomg]

:D

PEACE BRO

[Simeon II]

If the price was .02% of the value a day ago I'd be so happy.  I wouldn't have even posted.  Instead i would have headed straight for my BTC wallet to buy up as much as I possibly could...  I'd pretty much be set for life.

;D Let's your dreams come true!

P.S. If they do not hurt mine!

P.S.S I would have posted first, cause I am a good guy.

P.S.S.S Or maybe I would have not....

im not a bad guy..... i am not hurting u when i upset!

omg , Where did I mention you in the above post?  ???

[omgomgomg]

If the price was .02% of the value a day ago I'd be so happy.  I wouldn't have even posted.  Instead i would have headed straight for my BTC wallet to buy up as much as I possibly could...  I'd pretty much be set for life.

;D Let's your dreams come true!

P.S. If they do not hurt mine!

P.S.S I would have posted first, cause I am a good guy.

P.S.S.S Or maybe I would have not....

im not a bad guy..... i am not hurting u when i upset!

[omgomgomg]

i don't know if my calculation is wrong, but based on bter exchange rate, seems it is the truth.

any insightful thoughts? since pts price drops three times than before on 228, i guess, i'm losing so much right now...

so maximum annually return rate is 0.3%

How ar
Do you know anything at all about software development ?  Like how difficult it is ?  What were you expecting?   The donations were to fund development.

so u saying, i invest, coz you guys think the sofware is so hard to develop, so i should expect nothing? then why do i invest if you ask me not to expect anything?
dude, if you selling an idea to ppl like this at the beginning, how many ppl do you think they will invest at the first place?

"ok, we have a very good product, invest your money on us, but please dont expect anything from us coz our software is SOOOOO FREAKing hard to develop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

im like lol?

No, I'm saying that when you donate (you call it invest) in a project that requires some R&D/testing/development it will not be done within months.  I doubt there is any potential software of signficance at this point which can be done in a few months and have value that Bitshares X will.

Expecting something is fine.  Even being disappointed with the delays is fine.  Complaining about the delays is fine !!

However, expecting to get a return before something is released seems borderline absurd to me.  Which is how I interpreted your original message.   Anyway.. now that I understand your confusion and reason for concern, my initial response was a bit harsh.  My apologies.

i know wut ur saying, but i just personally as a investor dont like ur argument. that's it!~ this is not an argument i think you should say to ur investors. not one i will say to mine under any circumstances. do the job bare the pain. making excuses is not professionals do in their professions, you know. just personally thought, you can disagree.

[Simeon II]

If the price was .02% of the value a day ago I'd be so happy.  I wouldn't have even posted.  Instead i would have headed straight for my BTC wallet to buy up as much as I possibly could...  I'd pretty much be set for life.

;D Let's your dreams come true!

P.S. If they do not hurt mine!

P.S.S I would have posted first, cause I am a good guy.

P.S.S.S Or maybe I would have not....

[JA]

:D

[gamey]

i don't know if my calculation is wrong, but based on bter exchange rate, seems it is the truth.

any insightful thoughts? since pts price drops three times than before on 228, i guess, i'm losing so much right now...

so maximum annually return rate is 0.3%

How ar
Do you know anything at all about software development ?  Like how difficult it is ?  What were you expecting?   The donations were to fund development.

so u saying, i invest, coz you guys think the sofware is so hard to develop, so i should expect nothing? then why do i invest if you ask me not to expect anything?
dude, if you selling an idea to ppl like this at the beginning, how many ppl do you think they will invest at the first place?

"ok, we have a very good product, invest your money on us, but please dont expect anything from us coz our software is SOOOOO FREAKing hard to develop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

im like lol?

No, I'm saying that when you donate (you call it invest) in a project that requires some R&D/testing/development it will not be done within months.  I doubt there is any potential software of signficance at this point which can be done in a few months and have value that Bitshares X will.

Expecting something is fine.  Even being disappointed with the delays is fine.  Complaining about the delays is fine !!

However, expecting to get a return before something is released seems borderline absurd to me.  Which is how I interpreted your original message.   Anyway.. now that I understand your confusion and reason for concern, my initial response was a bit harsh.  My apologies.

[omgomgomg]

If the price was .02% of the value a day ago I'd be so happy.  I wouldn't have even posted.  Instead i would have headed straight for my BTC wallet to buy up as much as I possibly could...  I'd pretty much be set for life.

i hope you play chinese chess. ur placing a horse after u lost ur cannon!

[omgomgomg]

You are not "confused and seeking insightful thoughts", you are complaining.

Do you want reassurance that you will get ROI (on something which is a donation and not an investment)? Will it really do any good if we offer it? IDK, "this is the price right at launch and it could grow" or "that is just the first of many DACs". Maybe you're just trying to vent and that's OK.

edit:

two days ago my bitshares worth 5k, today it only worth 10 bucks.

lol... your BTSX will be scaled up, relax. Multiply what you think you had by 500.

That's bullshit toast !
Can I multiply my # of shares by 500, after bter already did it once this morning?

The answer is READ before you post!

[edit] ok you posted about that in the meanwhile...

wtf, you dont even know that?

[gamey]

If the price was .02% of the value a day ago I'd be so happy.  I wouldn't have even posted.  Instead i would have headed straight for my BTC wallet to buy up as much as I possibly could...  I'd pretty much be set for life. 

[omgomgomg]

i don't know if my calculation is wrong, but based on bter exchange rate, seems it is the truth.

any insightful thoughts? since pts price drops three times than before on 228, i guess, i'm losing so much right now...

so maximum annually return rate is 0.3%

Do you know anything at all about software development ?  Like how difficult it is ?  What were you expecting?   The donations were to fund development.

so u saying, i invest, coz you guys think the sofware is so hard to develop, so i should expect nothing? then why do i invest if you ask me not to expect anything?
dude, if you selling an idea to ppl like this at the beginning, how many ppl do you think they will invest at the first place?

"ok, we have a very good product, invest your money on us, but please dont expect anything from us coz our software is SOOOOO FREAKing hard to develop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

im like lol?

[toast]

You are not "confused and seeking insightful thoughts", you are complaining.

Do you want reassurance that you will get ROI (on something which is a donation and not an investment)? Will it really do any good if we offer it? IDK, "this is the price right at launch and it could grow" or "that is just the first of many DACs". Maybe you're just trying to vent and that's OK.

edit:

two days ago my bitshares worth 5k, today it only worth 10 bucks.

lol... your BTSX will be scaled up, relax. Multiply what you think you had by 500.

That's bullshit toast !
Can I multiply my # of shares by 500, after bter already did it once this morning?

The answer is READ before you post!

Multiply what you think you had by 500.

"You" being "omgomgomg"

[Simeon II]

You are not "confused and seeking insightful thoughts", you are complaining.

Do you want reassurance that you will get ROI (on something which is a donation and not an investment)? Will it really do any good if we offer it? IDK, "this is the price right at launch and it could grow" or "that is just the first of many DACs". Maybe you're just trying to vent and that's OK.

edit:

two days ago my bitshares worth 5k, today it only worth 10 bucks.

lol... your BTSX will be scaled up, relax. Multiply what you think you had by 500.

That's bullshit toast !
Can I multiply my # of shares by 500, after bter already did it once this morning?

The answer is READ before you post!

[edit] ok you posted about that in the meanwhile...

[toast]

Did you have a balance on BTER or are you just using them as a price point?
They should have scaled anyone's balance on the account already

[toast]

You are not "confused and seeking insightful thoughts", you are complaining.

Do you want reassurance that you will get ROI (on something which is a donation and not an investment)? Will it really do any good if we offer it? IDK, "this is the price right at launch and it could grow" or "that is just the first of many DACs". Maybe you're just trying to vent and that's OK.

edit:

two days ago my bitshares worth 5k, today it only worth 10 bucks.

lol... your BTSX will be scaled up, relax. Multiply what you think you had by 500.

ok thanks, see, this helps. i give no happy questions, you ppl give me happy endings. everyone happy

any how it works? i beg ur explanation.

It's simple, just think of everything in terms of % and not in terms of # of shares.
Suppose you had 1% of PTS which is awarded 50% of the BTSX. So you would have had 0.5% of the total supply. If total supply is 4m then you'd have 2k. If total supply is 2b then you'd have 1m.

[omgomgomg]

You are not "confused and seeking insightful thoughts", you are complaining.

Do you want reassurance that you will get ROI (on something which is a donation and not an investment)? Will it really do any good if we offer it? IDK, "this is the price right at launch and it could grow" or "that is just the first of many DACs". Maybe you're just trying to vent and that's OK.

edit:

two days ago my bitshares worth 5k, today it only worth 10 bucks.

lol... your BTSX will be scaled up, relax. Multiply what you think you had by 500.

also, other ppl might have same questions like i do. so everyone will benefits from my concerns.

trust me, im not the worst complainer you ever come across.

[gamey]

i don't know if my calculation is wrong, but based on bter exchange rate, seems it is the truth.

any insightful thoughts? since pts price drops three times than before on 228, i guess, i'm losing so much right now...

so maximum annually return rate is 0.3%

Do you know anything at all about software development ?  Like how difficult it is ?  What were you expecting?   The donations were to fund development.

edit - ROFL at reading bter graphs... sorry.  Yea, that 99.98% or whatever loss in value is reason for concern if it was true.  I wish bter would have just left it as is, because it screwed up their whole trading interface.

[omgomgomg]

You are not "confused and seeking insightful thoughts", you are complaining.

Do you want reassurance that you will get ROI (on something which is a donation and not an investment)? Will it really do any good if we offer it? IDK, "this is the price right at launch and it could grow" or "that is just the first of many DACs". Maybe you're just trying to vent and that's OK.

edit:

two days ago my bitshares worth 5k, today it only worth 10 bucks.

lol... your BTSX will be scaled up, relax. Multiply what you think you had by 500.

ok thanks, see, this helps. i give no happy questions, you ppl give me happy endings. everyone happy

any how it works? i beg ur explanation.

[toast]

You are not "confused and seeking insightful thoughts", you are complaining.

Do you want reassurance that you will get ROI (on something which is a donation and not an investment)? Will it really do any good if we offer it? IDK, "this is the price right at launch and it could grow" or "that is just the first of many DACs". Maybe you're just trying to vent and that's OK.

edit:

two days ago my bitshares worth 5k, today it only worth 10 bucks.

lol... your BTSX will be scaled up, relax. Multiply what you think you had by 500.

[omgomgomg]

1st You most likely cannot cash your 0.1% (be it negative 50% or 3000% return) right now.

2nd 0.1% profit for 6 mo., in no way describes your yearly profit .How you came with 0.3 is really interesting to me.

3rd  Can you put a bit of effort and explain where are you headed with this thread and/or what are you trying to say. PLEASE!

invested 10k now get over 1000 bitshares, *0.000017 on bter is 11.05 USD
600 pts i bought for 0.23, with 13.8 btc, now i sell those only get  4.2 btc. i lost almost 9 btc already. simple calculation as that.

any from 228 to now, 5 months i get 11 usd for my investment, a year would be 25 usd. so im still losing 9 btc in one year.

i think you didnt noticed that the current supply was raised from 4000000 to 2000000000

i did noticed that. thats why i made this post

two days ago my bitshares worth 5k, today it only worth 10 bucks.

[JA]

1st You most likely cannot cash your 0.1% (be it negative 50% or 3000% return) right now.

2nd 0.1% profit for 6 mo., in no way describes your yearly profit .How you came with 0.3 is really interesting to me.

3rd  Can you put a bit of effort and explain where are you headed with this thread and/or what are you trying to say. PLEASE!

invested 10k now get over 1000 bitshares, *0.000017 on bter is 11.05 USD
600 pts i bought for 0.23, with 13.8 btc, now i sell those only get  4.2 btc. i lost almost 9 btc already. simple calculation as that.

any from 228 to now, 5 months i get 11 usd for my investment, a year would be 25 usd. so im still losing 9 btc in one year.

i think you didnt noticed that the current supply was raised from 4000000 to 2000000000

[omgomgomg]

my point is that my investment over half a year didn't get any payback.

and my another point is that i have lost more than 5k on investing on bitshares so far.

my last point is that should i still have faith in protoshares?

All questions above are one that you will be better off, asking and answering yourself.

Posting them here every couple of weeks, will do you no good... as you well know from past experience.

Hope this helps.

so ur saying for those ppl who once believed in pts should not post in here when they got confused and seeking for insightful thoughts?

[Simeon II]

my point is that my investment over half a year didn't get any payback.

and my another point is that i have lost more than 5k on investing on bitshares so far.

my last point is that should i still have faith in protoshares?

All questions above are one that you will be better off, asking and answering yourself.

Posting them here every couple of weeks, will do you no good... as you well know from past experience.

Hope this helps.

[omgomgomg]

1st You most likely cannot cash your 0.1% (be it negative 50% or 3000% return) right now.

2nd 0.1% profit for 6 mo., in no way describes your yearly profit .How you came with 0.3 is really interesting to me.

3rd  Can you put a bit of effort and explain where are you headed with this thread and/or what are you trying to say. PLEASE!

invested 10k now get over 1000 bitshares, *0.000017 on bter is 11.05 USD
600 pts i bought for 0.23, with 13.8 btc, now i sell those only get  4.2 btc. i lost almost 9 btc already. simple calculation as that.

any from 228 to now, 5 months i get 11 usd for my investment, a year would be 25 usd. so im still losing 9 btc in one year.

[omgomgomg]

I know you do not have one but still,

what is your point?

my point is that my investment over half a year didn't get any payback.

and my another point is that i have lost more than 5k on investing on bitshares so far.

my last point is that should i still have faith in protoshares?

[Simeon II]

1st You most likely cannot cash your 0.1% (be it negative 50% or 3000% return) right now.

2nd 0.1% profit for 6 mo., in no way describes your yearly profit .How you came with 0.3 is really interesting to me.

3rd  Can you put a bit of effort and explain where are you headed with this thread and/or what are you trying to say. PLEASE!

[Simeon II]

I know you do not have one but still,

what is your point?

[omgomgomg]

i don't know if my calculation is wrong, but based on bter exchange rate, seems it is the truth.

any insightful thoughts? since pts price drops three times than before on 228, i guess, i'm losing so much right now...

so maximum annually return rate is 0.3%