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Started by bitcoinerS, July 20, 2014, 10:29:26 AM

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betax

Quote from: liondani on July 21, 2014, 06:15:13 AM
I voted all on this thread and not only. I will soon reveal my voting list  ;)

Add me to the list and reveal it so I can do the voting.
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liondani

I voted all on this thread and not only. I will soon reveal my voting list  ;)
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bitcoinerS

Voted for all on current vote swaps list and updated.
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Simeon II

This is the story of a fisherman who walked every day by the sea, casting a net and asking the Lord for a good catch. One day he took out their networks and what to see - a human eye. The fisherman took the eye and took it to the king, showed their catches and announced that he wanted to sell it. The king asked him the price of the eye, and the fisherman replied that it would cost as much gold as it weighs eye. Put the eye on the instrument, and the other began to put gold - Put kg, two, three, five, ten, but the scale of the eye never risen. The eye stayed still heavier. King wondered what to do and called a wise man to advise him. The sage gave the following advice to resolve the situation in which a human eye weighs more than all the gold of the king "should be put on the eye a little dust." By eye threw dust, then squinted and then journeyed up.
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puppies

Quote from: Simeon II on July 20, 2014, 06:13:06 PM
Quote from: Xeldal on July 20, 2014, 05:56:46 PM
Personally I would prefer a delegate with 100% pay who has a solid targeted plan to use that income wisely, rather than one with 0% pay who is essentially targeting everyone equally.


I do not know where you live, but in this country we have seen a lot of politicians claiming to know how to spend our money better than us.

Most of the time the money not spend for themselves/given to friends are used for starting a war or two with random country.
So, I personally am not voting for any delegate with over about 15% pay rate, period.
There are a couple of people I might trust with a 100% rake,  but that's gonna be few and far between.   Other than that I agree with Simeon, and his parallel with politics.   I say lower taxes is the solution.
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muse-umum

#31
Pay rate is an interesting topic.
The delegates that I and other two forum members are running destroy 20% of the fees for each, more over we will  give back 30% of the fees to the community.

Any suggestion ?

Our election post:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5862.0

Xeldal

Quote from: Simeon II on July 20, 2014, 06:13:06 PM
Quote from: Xeldal on July 20, 2014, 05:56:46 PM
Personally I would prefer a delegate with 100% pay who has a solid targeted plan to use that income wisely, rather than one with 0% pay who is essentially targeting everyone equally.


I do not know where you live, but in this country we have seen a lot of politicians claiming to know how to spend our money better than us.

Most of the time the money not spend for themselves/given to friends are used for starting a war or two with random country.
So, I personally am not voting for any delegate with over about 15% pay rate, period.

That's fine, I don't blame you.  That is a perfectly reasonable stance. I would not vote for a delegate who proposes to start wars either.

What I'm saying is, my vote for a delegate who chooses to donate 85% of his 100% income towards something I would be interested in donating to anyways, like say the bitshares development team, serves my interest more than a delegate who donates their 85% equally to everyone, people i don't support included.


Simeon II

No just I feel too lazy to explain the effect of destroying transaction fees...
If you do not want to figure it yourself out, the topic should be discussed (in this forum including).
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Riverhead

Quote from: Simeon II on July 20, 2014, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: Riverhead on July 20, 2014, 06:18:19 PM

From what I've read the pay rate percentage isn't how much you keep vs return to the market it's how much you keep vs "destroy to reduce supply".  So it's not like if you're at 50% you're being less greedy (in the short term).  You're just reducing the number of BTSX by destroying half the transaction fees you earned.  This will likely increase the value of each BTSX in a classic supply/demand sense I guess.


Someone correct me if I've misunderstood this.

Corrected as requested!


What did you change?  It looks the same to me.  Or was I mid edit when you posted the quote?

Simeon II

Quote from: Riverhead on July 20, 2014, 06:18:19 PM

From what I've read the pay rate percentage isn't how much you keep vs return to the market it's how much you keep vs "destroy to reduce supply".  So it's not like if you're at 50% you're being less greedy (in the short term).  You're just reducing the number of BTSX by destroying half the transaction fees you earned.  This will likely increase the value of each BTSX in a classic supply/demand sense I guess.


Someone correct me if I've misunderstood this.

Corrected as requested!
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Riverhead

#26

From what I've read the pay rate percentage isn't how much you keep vs return to the market it's how much you keep vs "destroy to reduce supply".  So it's not like if you're at 50% you're being less greedy (in the short term).  You're just reducing the number of BTSX by destroying half the transaction fees you earned.  This will likely increase the value of each BTSX in a classic supply/demand sense I guess.


Someone correct me if I've misunderstood this.

Simeon II

Quote from: Xeldal on July 20, 2014, 05:56:46 PM
Personally I would prefer a delegate with 100% pay who has a solid targeted plan to use that income wisely, rather than one with 0% pay who is essentially targeting everyone equally.


I do not know where you live, but in this country we have seen a lot of politicians claiming to know how to spend our money better than us.

Most of the time the money not spend for themselves/given to friends are used for starting a war or two with random country.
So, I personally am not voting for any delegate with over about 15% pay rate, period.


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Xeldal

Personally I would prefer a delegate with 100% pay who has a solid targeted plan to use that income wisely, rather than one with 0% pay who is essentially targeting everyone equally.

spartako

Also all spartakos moved to 50%....so Simeon II please vote for notgreedydelegatesintop100
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Xeldal

Quote from: Simeon II on July 20, 2014, 05:29:23 PM
Quote from: ɐqqɐɾɐqqɐɾ on July 20, 2014, 05:26:32 PM
Quote from: Xeldal on July 20, 2014, 05:23:43 PM
Not to mention, not one of us currently has a single delegate in the top 101.

my delegate is on second slot currently

And the ONLY one with less then 100% fee...

so I missed one, gratz jabbajabba

I'd be willing to bet that the 50% pay rate has little to nothing to do with his placement.

In fact I've change my delegate xeldal to 50%. Lets see if it has any effect.

I don't expect this to change anything, but I'd be delighted to be wrong.