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Offline GaltReport

I voted for you galt.  Sadly (or not depending on how you look at it)  it would take roughly 10000 times my stake level to elect you.

Voted you back!  Mine is probably worth much less than yours  but  thanks for your help.  I want to make sure there are alternatives in the event we have  rogue or unethical delegates.  I just want to help.  I also run TOR relay(s).

I live/work "up  the road" from Invictus in Northern Virginia and am more than willing to provide my personal contact info to them to verify who i am and my intentions. 

Do I need to open port 41789 ? I saw  something listening for p2p connections on that port.

The ports with these high numbers are due to the automatic upnp.

so no need to specifically open any ports or startup options for the client? (I guess that is the purpose of 'automatic'?)

oh, looks like it's working!!  I will endeavor to keep it running!! 

Thanks to all.  I'm willing to run more delegates if it helps.

If you are interested in where I am coming from, you can checkout my website listed in my profile. 

Take my word for it, I've seen the beast and engaged in (legal) battle with it.  So far, I've survived....

« Last Edit: July 22, 2014, 08:54:17 pm by GaltReport »

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I voted for you galt.  Sadly (or not depending on how you look at it)  it would take roughly 10000 times my stake level to elect you.

Voted you back!  Mine is probably worth much less than yours  but  thanks for your help.  I want to make sure there are alternatives in the event we have  rogue or unethical delegates.  I just want to help.  I also run TOR relay(s).

I live/work "up  the road" from Invictus in Northern Virginia and am more than willing to provide my personal contact info to them to verify who i am and my intentions. 

Do I need to open port 41789 ? I saw  something listening for p2p connections on that port.

The ports with these high numbers are due to the automatic upnp.

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It seems to be ironic that there is a need for unique qualified delegates but there is no way verify the uniqueness or qualifications of any delegate. So I sense a hesitancy to vote for people that aren't already "in".

that is our, as delegates and users, responsibility.
See:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5933
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?board=61.0

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I voted for you galt.  Sadly (or not depending on how you look at it)  it would take roughly 10000 times my stake level to elect you.

Strangely my wallet reports your account is not registered as a delegate, just a regular user.

My qt_wallet does the same when I look him up under directory, but the console shows him registered and allowed me to vote.
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I voted for you galt.  Sadly (or not depending on how you look at it)  it would take roughly 10000 times my stake level to elect you.

Voted you back!  Mine is probably worth much less than yours  but  thanks for your help.  I want to make sure there are alternatives in the event we have  rogue or unethical delegates.  I just want to help.  I also run TOR relay(s).

I live/work "up  the road" from Invictus in Northern Virginia and am more than willing to provide my personal contact info to them to verify who i am and my intentions. 

Do I need to open port 41789 ? I saw  something listening for p2p connections on that port.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2014, 05:44:57 pm by GaltReport »

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I voted for you galt.  Sadly (or not depending on how you look at it)  it would take roughly 10000 times my stake level to elect you.

Strangely my wallet reports your account is not registered as a delegate, just a regular user.   
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I voted for you galt.  Sadly (or not depending on how you look at it)  it would take roughly 10000 times my stake level to elect you.
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delegate1-galt  is not registered on the network.

Does that mean  it's not  registered?  I see it  in the  directory as a delegate.  Is there a special command to "register on the network" or some config/ports that need to be open?  I'm thinking maybe some comms issue??

wallet_show_my_accounts

NAME (* delegate)                  KEY                                                             REGISTERED            FAVORITE       APPROVED       BLOCK PRODUCTION ENABLED
delegate1-galt *                   BTSX7CRAW6ajvXaAUYcbTmahTDzbXiddXzUFXhbKPwZKfz85nKRCtG          2014-07-22T03:24:10   NO             1              YES


get_info

mywallet (unlocked) >>> get_info
{
  "blockchain_head_block_num": 28881,
  "blockchain_head_block_age": "7 seconds old",
  "blockchain_head_block_timestamp": "20140722T162010",
  "blockchain_average_delegate_participation": 96.19047619047619,
  "blockchain_delegate_pay_rate": 225034,
  "blockchain_blocks_left_in_round": 5,
  "blockchain_confirmation_requirement": 1,
  "blockchain_accumulated_fees": "272,201.52373 BTSX",
  "blockchain_share_supply": 199972779829550,
  "blockchain_random_seed": "24e42f65289faf1f0764b99fbf6325955adf3a9d",
  "blockchain_database_version": 115,
  "blockchain_version": 109,
  "network_num_connections": 16,
  "network_num_connections_max": 100,
  "network_protocol_version": 104,
  "ntp_time": "20140722T162017",
  "ntp_error": 0.00071100000000000004,
  "wallet_open": true,
  "wallet_unlocked": true,
  "wallet_unlocked_until": "44 years  in the future",
  "wallet_unlocked_until_timestamp": "19230220T101923",
  "wallet_block_production_enabled": true,
  "wallet_next_block_production_time": null,
  "wallet_next_block_production_timestamp": null,
  "wallet_version": 100
}

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It seems to be ironic that there is a need for unique qualified delegates but there is no way verify the uniqueness or qualifications of any delegate. So I sense a hesitancy to vote for people that aren't already "in".

that is our, as delegates and users, responsibility.
See:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5933
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?board=61.0
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There are some delegates not producing any blocks at right now.
Can you, Bytemaster, swap scroodge for one of them, I worked quite well during dry runs?

I will try to get some polish folks in, with incentives from delegate's paycheck.

there may have been a bug that knocked lots of people off the p2p network.
see:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=6003
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There are some delegates not producing any blocks at right now.
Can you, Bytemaster, swap scroodge for one of them, I worked quite well during dry runs?

I will try to get some polish folks in, with incentives from delegate's paycheck.

Help me out:     wallet_approve_delegate mr.scroodge true

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delegate1-galt  is not registered on the network.
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Offline GaltReport

That isn't including any of the initial delegates. And there are still 26 of those. So 6 entities control well over half the delegates.

Maybe you guys want it that way?

This is not looking very decentralized.  Especially to any newcomers.

We want 100 unique individuals, but obviously there are not 100 qualified candidates right now.  Show me a list with 101 unique individuals ready to operate nodes and I will vote for them all in a minute.

Right now the system is young and is already more decentralized that bitcoin & Ripple.

You are entirely too quick to judge.  Look at the DIRECTION it is moving and not where it is.  It started out 100% centralized... now you are complaining about 5 people with about 7% control each?   And then insinuate that we want centralization?  ::)

I have no delegates in top101. I'm ready to operate a node.
You may try voting in some of the delegate(s) hosted by me:

emski
angel-delegate
lotto-delegate
immortal

They have dedicated hardware. Backup internet connection. UPS. SSD.
They proved reliable during dry runs.

I have one delegate and I can't get into the top 101 either.  Paying good money for it. Probably cancel it later today.

It seems to be ironic that there is a need for unique qualified delegates but there is no way verify the uniqueness or qualifications of any delegate. So I sense a hesitancy to vote for people that aren't already "in".

Greg what was your delegate ID?  I'll vote for you.

skyscraperfarms


Thanks!

I will vote for you too. (not that my vote does much now  :-[ )
« Last Edit: July 22, 2014, 03:13:56 pm by GaltReport »