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Offline CLains

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i'm in. let us aim for two or three threads. non-spammy continuous bumping in the alt section is what we need.

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great idea, btsx will not succeed unless you do this. it does not matter how good btsx is if people don't know about it. this should have been done long ago but requires lots of time debating some very smart people mixed with lots of trolls. you need people over there who really know what they are talking about and can clearly yet technically explain why btsx is better than the competition.

hey hey hey, this guy speaks truth.  What an idea !

Seriously though, creating a single thread or possibly 2 for support questions etc is pretty standard on bitcointalk. 

Should the thread be moderated?  Or have 1 thread for both moderated and unmoderated.  (Reasonable, alleviates concerns of censorship)

For moderation you might need a more senior account.  I'm not sure how it works. 

This place has become a mess trying to sort through it all.  http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/BitShares_X_Solutions is an attempt at created a quasi-FAQ out the known solutions.  It doesn't begin to touch on all the 'wait for the next release' answers.
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great idea, btsx will not succeed unless you do this. it does not matter how good btsx is if people don't know about it. this should have been done long ago but requires lots of time debating some very smart people mixed with lots of trolls. you need people over there who really know what they are talking about and can clearly yet technically explain why btsx is better than the competition.
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What distro are you on,  and where is it failing?

part of it is probably my own fault for being too stubborn to upgrade. someone was reassuring me that if I upgrade nothing changes, but I've broken stuff upgrading before, and having to spend a day setting everything up just so so and download everything again would be soul crushing for me right now. I just really like 12.04 so far it's been great to me (other than this hiccup), and it's still supported until 2017.

of course my bad upgrade experiences are from the days when the ubuntu versions were still single digits. maybe it's gotten better.

I've been halfass trying to get it to work in a virtualbox too (but haven't been trying as hard because I dislike that solution)-- haven't implemented the tips in the second topic linked below yet though, but my gut tells me it'd work if I went and did that, but I'm not in a giant hurry until BTER allows withdrawals anyway.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5770

I gave it another crack last night, using some of the instructions I discovered in this thread, and now its giving me a different error and not even letting the compile start anymore. something about qt5 not finding curses... I could probably reproduce that for you if you want, but I'd need a few minutes.

i dont wanna upgrade and dont wanna use a virtualbox, so maybe I deserve this and should stop whining :P

EDIT: also I was just using "cmake ." so when I got it to start compiling it probably wasn't even thinking about the qt wallet. when qt5 barked about curses was the first time I tried compiling it with DINCLUDE_QT_WALLET=on flag

I just read that second thread you linked, and while it seems like it should work, it also seems like a pain in the ass.  I use the https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=6008.msg80548#msg80548 approach.  Maybe its just me, but it seems like less of a pain in the ass.  Would love to hear if it works for others. 
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 only mention it because it was the first and only reason I have ever felt like using virtualbox was a good idea.  I had some bad experiences with virtual machines when they were kinda new, and that soured me somewhat.  Its not amnesiac like tails is, and thats both better and worse.  It uses two virtual boxes to simulate a physical proxy, so even if your machine is compromised it can't leak any information about you.

I can't imagine there would be much of a difference between lubuntu and ubuntu.  Its just a lxde vs gnome right?  Feel free to PM me.  I'm by no means a nix expert, but I like playing with things and figuring out how to make them work.
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What distro are you on,  and where is it failing?

part of it is probably my own fault for being too stubborn to upgrade. someone was reassuring me that if I upgrade nothing changes, but I've broken stuff upgrading before, and having to spend a day setting everything up just so so and download everything again would be soul crushing for me right now. I just really like 12.04 so far it's been great to me (other than this hiccup), and it's still supported until 2017.

of course my bad upgrade experiences are from the days when the ubuntu versions were still single digits. maybe it's gotten better.

I've been halfass trying to get it to work in a virtualbox too (but haven't been trying as hard because I dislike that solution)-- haven't implemented the tips in the second topic linked below yet though, but my gut tells me it'd work if I went and did that, but I'm not in a giant hurry until BTER allows withdrawals anyway.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5770

I gave it another crack last night, using some of the instructions I discovered in this thread, and now its giving me a different error and not even letting the compile start anymore. something about qt5 not finding curses... I could probably reproduce that for you if you want, but I'd need a few minutes.

i dont wanna upgrade and dont wanna use a virtualbox, so maybe I deserve this and should stop whining :P
I am quite the opposite.   I change operating systems quite often.   I never customize things more than absolutely necessary.   

I know you want to stay away from virtualbox, but if you can be swayed I got the wallet working in a great little distro called whonix.  It's actually two virtual machines and it routes everything through tor in a very interesting way.

Edit.   I Kinda want to run that in a virtual box running inside of a freebsd box.  Just cause I'm a nerd.

whonix eh? well tor is kind of pointless because I've already revealed my real world identity here. but that distro sounds intriguing, is it better than tails?

If I take another crack at installing in 14.04 in a virtualbox do you care if I send u a PM?

is there some reason you think it would be easier going on whonix? think it would be much harder if I tried Lubuntu in a vb instead of ubuntu?

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What distro are you on,  and where is it failing?

part of it is probably my own fault for being too stubborn to upgrade. someone was reassuring me that if I upgrade nothing changes, but I've broken stuff upgrading before, and having to spend a day setting everything up just so so and download everything again would be soul crushing for me right now. I just really like 12.04 so far it's been great to me (other than this hiccup), and it's still supported until 2017.

of course my bad upgrade experiences are from the days when the ubuntu versions were still single digits. maybe it's gotten better.

I've been halfass trying to get it to work in a virtualbox too (but haven't been trying as hard because I dislike that solution)-- haven't implemented the tips in the second topic linked below yet though, but my gut tells me it'd work if I went and did that, but I'm not in a giant hurry until BTER allows withdrawals anyway.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5770

I gave it another crack last night, using some of the instructions I discovered in this thread, and now its giving me a different error and not even letting the compile start anymore. something about qt5 not finding curses... I could probably reproduce that for you if you want, but I'd need a few minutes.

i dont wanna upgrade and dont wanna use a virtualbox, so maybe I deserve this and should stop whining :P
I am quite the opposite.   I change operating systems quite often.   I never customize things more than absolutely necessary.   

I know you want to stay away from virtualbox, but if you can be swayed I got the wallet working in a great little distro called whonix.  It's actually two virtual machines and it routes everything through tor in a very interesting way.

Edit.   I Kinda want to run that in a virtual box running inside of a freebsd box.  Just cause I'm a nerd.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2014, 04:32:37 am by puppies »
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What distro are you on,  and where is it failing?

part of it is probably my own fault for being too stubborn to upgrade. someone was reassuring me that if I upgrade nothing changes, but I've broken stuff upgrading before, and having to spend a day setting everything up just so so and download everything again would be soul crushing for me right now. I just really like 12.04 so far it's been great to me (other than this hiccup), and it's still supported until 2017.

of course my bad upgrade experiences are from the days when the ubuntu versions were still single digits. maybe it's gotten better.

I've been halfass trying to get it to work in a virtualbox too (but haven't been trying as hard because I dislike that solution)-- haven't implemented the tips in the second topic linked below yet though, but my gut tells me it'd work if I went and did that, but I'm not in a giant hurry until BTER allows withdrawals anyway.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5770

I gave it another crack last night, using some of the instructions I discovered in this thread, and now its giving me a different error and not even letting the compile start anymore. something about qt5 not finding curses... I could probably reproduce that for you if you want, but I'd need a few minutes.

i dont wanna upgrade and dont wanna use a virtualbox, so maybe I deserve this and should stop whining :P

EDIT: also I was just using "cmake ." so when I got it to start compiling it probably wasn't even thinking about the qt wallet. when qt5 barked about curses was the first time I tried compiling it with DINCLUDE_QT_WALLET=on flag
« Last Edit: July 23, 2014, 04:27:39 am by merockstar »

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What distro are you on,  and where is it failing?
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Note:  I think we should do it after the next bug fix release of the wallet.

and linux binaries? pretty pretty plz?

All standard warnings about downloading binaries off of the internet apply.  You're already on Linux, you really should just build it yourself.  I know I'm on the up and up, but you couldn't know that.  Anyways if you want it https://www.dropbox.com/s/p5bc0odmwg82upj/BitSharesX?n=58282092


well thank you so much!

I've actually been trying to build it myself but failing hard. Linux is officially dumbass accessible now.

I really, really do appreciate the gesture, but I was kind of looking at BM or Dacsunlimited when I made that comment.

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Note:  I think we should do it after the next bug fix release of the wallet.

and linux binaries? pretty pretty plz?

This is version 0.2.1 built on my Xubuntu system.  I deleted the data directory and build directory and was able to launch the client with nothing other than this executable sitting on my desktop, but it's possible that it requires one of the dependencies that were needed to build it, and it wont work on your system. 

All standard warnings about downloading binaries off of the internet apply.  You're already on Linux, you really should just build it yourself.  I know I'm on the up and up, but you couldn't know that.  Anyways if you want it https://www.dropbox.com/s/p5bc0odmwg82upj/BitSharesX?n=58282092

Also while I was moving this to my dropbox account I found an old video of the very puppies that inspired my choice in user name.  (I have a really hard time coming up with good names, so when I need to come up with a user name I tend to just look around the room and pick something.)  For your viewing pleasure
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7zdjrhy6ooe0krf/puppies%201.3g2

Also I am the suxxors at the dropbox, so if I've done something wrong, please let me know.
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While we do not need to spam the bitcointalk board, there should be an official moderated thread.  They move fast in the alt section so a nice overview with graphics & video's should get people talking.

Now with the launch a small update would also be nice to see what is being worked on next.  Updated wallet?  Bug fixes?  New dry run to test market functionality?

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Yeah I really think this is a great idea.

I was a bit frustrated with marketing earlier today, given BTSX  trading so much below donating price,  but everything you want for marketing is actually there. I think Brian & others have done a great job. BitShares-X.info is looking ice cool. Great videos, Good Youtube & Facebook. Hugely popular forum. BitShares.org and DACsunlimited also good.

This is the only thing we missed, which is what everyone else does, is making the effort to create that presence on BTT. (& perhaps Reddit too.) So making the effort to specifically divert traffic there is important.
 
What do people think about doing a '(BTSX) BitShares X - Official Thread' as the main one started by one of the devs? (That seems to be the kind of format guys like NXT for example use.)

What other threads should there be?

Also do people think we should be on alternate cryptocurrencies  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0 or Alternate Cryptocurrencies sub section announcements https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0

To me it makes sense to be on the first, but the announcement one does seem to move at a mile a minute, so much traffic there.

Yes, a pub thread like the one NXT has is needed.

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Yeah I really think this is a great idea.

I was a bit frustrated with marketing earlier today, given BTSX  trading so much below donating price,  but everything you want for marketing is actually there. I think Brian & others have done a great job. BitShares-X.info is looking ice cool. Great videos, Good Youtube & Facebook. Hugely popular forum. BitShares.org and DACsunlimited also good.

This is the only thing we missed, which is what everyone else does, is making the effort to create that presence on BTT. (& perhaps Reddit too.) So making the effort to specifically divert traffic there is important.
 
What do people think about doing a '(BTSX) BitShares X - Official Thread' as the main one started by one of the devs? (That seems to be the kind of format guys like NXT for example use.)

What other threads should there be?

Also do people think we should be on alternate cryptocurrencies  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0 or Alternate Cryptocurrencies sub section announcements https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0

To me it makes sense to be on the first, but the announcement one does seem to move at a mile a minute, so much traffic there.

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Is it possible to attempt an automatic synchronization?

indeed, this would be really nice!

To OP -  +5%  great idea
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