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fredafrica

Quote from: oco101 on December 16, 2014, 04:27:08 AM
Quote from: fredafrica on December 16, 2014, 04:09:25 AM
Quote from: oco101 on December 16, 2014, 03:46:48 AM
Quote from: fredafrica on December 16, 2014, 03:23:52 AM
Quote from: donkeypong on December 15, 2014, 06:05:26 PM
I understand M-PESA is very big in some parts of Africa.

But they almost lost in SA.

M-Pesa is big but the transaction fee are very high for such poor countrys, People are so poor that if they could transfer money without those fee they will do it in a heartbeat.  I've been in a few African country and the mobile payment is huge. There is a big market there for sure but it not easy, I guess the best way will be some kind of partnership with a phone company.

I know what's you meaning. But I have already got my solution for specially people in Africa. It is not easy to expain you just in the forum. We are you now and maybe we can talk in person. And also I wish you gonna give me more ideas.

Sure I send you a PM.

Got it! And I will answer you soon.

oco101

Quote from: fredafrica on December 16, 2014, 04:09:25 AM
Quote from: oco101 on December 16, 2014, 03:46:48 AM
Quote from: fredafrica on December 16, 2014, 03:23:52 AM
Quote from: donkeypong on December 15, 2014, 06:05:26 PM
I understand M-PESA is very big in some parts of Africa.

But they almost lost in SA.

M-Pesa is big but the transaction fee are very high for such poor countrys, People are so poor that if they could transfer money without those fee they will do it in a heartbeat.  I've been in a few African country and the mobile payment is huge. There is a big market there for sure but it not easy, I guess the best way will be some kind of partnership with a phone company.

I know what's you meaning. But I have already got my solution for specially people in Africa. It is not easy to expain you just in the forum. We are you now and maybe we can talk in person. And also I wish you gonna give me more ideas.

Sure I send you a PM.

fredafrica

Quote from: oco101 on December 16, 2014, 03:46:48 AM
Quote from: fredafrica on December 16, 2014, 03:23:52 AM
Quote from: donkeypong on December 15, 2014, 06:05:26 PM
I understand M-PESA is very big in some parts of Africa.

But they almost lost in SA.

M-Pesa is big but the transaction fee are very high for such poor countrys, People are so poor that if they could transfer money without those fee they will do it in a heartbeat.  I've been in a few African country and the mobile payment is huge. There is a big market there for sure but it not easy, I guess the best way will be some kind of partnership with a phone company.

I know what's you meaning. But I have already got my solution for specially people in Africa. It is not easy to expain you just in the forum. We are you now and maybe we can talk in person. And also I wish you gonna give me more ideas.

oco101

Quote from: fredafrica on December 16, 2014, 03:23:52 AM
Quote from: donkeypong on December 15, 2014, 06:05:26 PM
I understand M-PESA is very big in some parts of Africa.

But they almost lost in SA.

M-Pesa is big but the transaction fee are very high for such poor countrys, People are so poor that if they could transfer money without those fee they will do it in a heartbeat.  I've been in a few African country and the mobile payment is huge. There is a big market there for sure but it not easy, I guess the best way will be some kind of partnership with a phone company.

fredafrica

Quote from: oco101 on December 15, 2014, 04:22:29 PM
Quote from: fredafrica on December 15, 2014, 03:37:34 PM
Quote from: cass on December 15, 2014, 02:11:00 PM
Quote from: Method-X on December 15, 2014, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: fredafrica on December 15, 2014, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: Stan on August 11, 2014, 04:06:29 AM
Quote from: bodenliu on August 11, 2014, 02:32:59 AM
well...I hope you all the best

any candidate for this role right now? how about kevin harrington? :P :P

He is moving from employee to independent entrepreneur with the same task but powerful new incentives and capabilities.

Hey Stan, I have a plan to promote the market in Africa for BTS. What do you think about this? I wish you gonna support me.

It's not Stans job to support you. It's the collective shareholders in general. Make a delegate proposal in the delegate sub, lay out your plan in detail and see if your idea is worth funding. I'm eager to hear what your plan is!

+5% africa could be a great potential market, if we get mobile light weight wallets out there asap :)

I will. I have been in Africa country for more than four year. I worked as a marketing there. So I know why lots of guys there need currency digital and how the application could be there!

I just come back from Mali and literally at every corner of the street there is a Orange booth, for people to transfer money with their phone. Orange charge about 3% fee for every transfer witch is a lot. Yes the potential is big but there are tons of problems to overcome. Anyway  looking forward to see your delegate proposition. What country you have been in Africa ?

I was in SA, Mozambique, Angola, Zimbabuwe for many years and know almost all the chinese company and client there.

fredafrica

Quote from: donkeypong on December 15, 2014, 06:05:26 PM
I understand M-PESA is very big in some parts of Africa.

But they almost lost in SA.

fredafrica

Quote from: oco101 on December 15, 2014, 04:22:29 PM
Quote from: fredafrica on December 15, 2014, 03:37:34 PM
Quote from: cass on December 15, 2014, 02:11:00 PM
Quote from: Method-X on December 15, 2014, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: fredafrica on December 15, 2014, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: Stan on August 11, 2014, 04:06:29 AM
Quote from: bodenliu on August 11, 2014, 02:32:59 AM
well...I hope you all the best

any candidate for this role right now? how about kevin harrington? :P :P

He is moving from employee to independent entrepreneur with the same task but powerful new incentives and capabilities.

Hey Stan, I have a plan to promote the market in Africa for BTS. What do you think about this? I wish you gonna support me.

It's not Stans job to support you. It's the collective shareholders in general. Make a delegate proposal in the delegate sub, lay out your plan in detail and see if your idea is worth funding. I'm eager to hear what your plan is!

+5% africa could be a great potential market, if we get mobile light weight wallets out there asap :)

I will. I have been in Africa country for more than four year. I worked as a marketing there. So I know why lots of guys there need currency digital and how the application could be there!

I just come back from Mali and literally at every corner of the street there is a Orange booth, for people to transfer money with their phone. Orange charge about 3% fee for every transfer witch is a lot. Yes the potential is big but there are tons of problems to overcome. Anyway  looking forward to see your delegate proposition. What country you have been in Africa ?

Angola

donkeypong

I understand M-PESA is very big in some parts of Africa.

oco101

Quote from: fredafrica on December 15, 2014, 03:37:34 PM
Quote from: cass on December 15, 2014, 02:11:00 PM
Quote from: Method-X on December 15, 2014, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: fredafrica on December 15, 2014, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: Stan on August 11, 2014, 04:06:29 AM
Quote from: bodenliu on August 11, 2014, 02:32:59 AM
well...I hope you all the best

any candidate for this role right now? how about kevin harrington? :P :P

He is moving from employee to independent entrepreneur with the same task but powerful new incentives and capabilities.

Hey Stan, I have a plan to promote the market in Africa for BTS. What do you think about this? I wish you gonna support me.

It's not Stans job to support you. It's the collective shareholders in general. Make a delegate proposal in the delegate sub, lay out your plan in detail and see if your idea is worth funding. I'm eager to hear what your plan is!

+5% africa could be a great potential market, if we get mobile light weight wallets out there asap :)

I will. I have been in Africa country for more than four year. I worked as a marketing there. So I know why lots of guys there need currency digital and how the application could be there!

I just come back from Mali and literally at every corner of the street there is a Orange booth, for people to transfer money with their phone. Orange charge about 3% fee for every transfer witch is a lot. Yes the potential is big but there are tons of problems to overcome. Anyway  looking forward to see your delegate proposition. What country you have been in Africa ?

fredafrica

Quote from: cass on December 15, 2014, 02:11:00 PM
Quote from: Method-X on December 15, 2014, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: fredafrica on December 15, 2014, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: Stan on August 11, 2014, 04:06:29 AM
Quote from: bodenliu on August 11, 2014, 02:32:59 AM
well...I hope you all the best

any candidate for this role right now? how about kevin harrington? :P :P

He is moving from employee to independent entrepreneur with the same task but powerful new incentives and capabilities.

Hey Stan, I have a plan to promote the market in Africa for BTS. What do you think about this? I wish you gonna support me.

It's not Stans job to support you. It's the collective shareholders in general. Make a delegate proposal in the delegate sub, lay out your plan in detail and see if your idea is worth funding. I'm eager to hear what your plan is!

+5% africa could be a great potential market, if we get mobile light weight wallets out there asap :)

I will. I have been in Africa country for more than four year. I worked as a marketing there. So I know why lots of guys there need currency digital and how the application could be there!

fredafrica

Quote from: Method-X on December 15, 2014, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: fredafrica on December 15, 2014, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: Stan on August 11, 2014, 04:06:29 AM
Quote from: bodenliu on August 11, 2014, 02:32:59 AM
well...I hope you all the best

any candidate for this role right now? how about kevin harrington? :P :P

He is moving from employee to independent entrepreneur with the same task but powerful new incentives and capabilities.

Hey Stan, I have a plan to promote the market in Africa for BTS. What do you think about this? I wish you gonna support me.

It's not Stans job to support you. It's the collective shareholders in general. Make a delegate proposal in the delegate sub, lay out your plan in detail and see if your idea is worth funding. I'm eager to hear what your plan is!
Cool! I will!

cass

Quote from: Method-X on December 15, 2014, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: fredafrica on December 15, 2014, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: Stan on August 11, 2014, 04:06:29 AM
Quote from: bodenliu on August 11, 2014, 02:32:59 AM
well...I hope you all the best

any candidate for this role right now? how about kevin harrington? :P :P

He is moving from employee to independent entrepreneur with the same task but powerful new incentives and capabilities.

Hey Stan, I have a plan to promote the market in Africa for BTS. What do you think about this? I wish you gonna support me.

It's not Stans job to support you. It's the collective shareholders in general. Make a delegate proposal in the delegate sub, lay out your plan in detail and see if your idea is worth funding. I'm eager to hear what your plan is!

+5% africa could be a great potential market, if we get mobile light weight wallets out there asap :)
█║▌║║█  - - -  The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear  - - -  █║▌║║█

Method-X

#52
Quote from: fredafrica on December 15, 2014, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: Stan on August 11, 2014, 04:06:29 AM
Quote from: bodenliu on August 11, 2014, 02:32:59 AM
well...I hope you all the best

any candidate for this role right now? how about kevin harrington? :P :P

He is moving from employee to independent entrepreneur with the same task but powerful new incentives and capabilities.

Hey Stan, I have a plan to promote the market in Africa for BTS. What do you think about this? I wish you gonna support me.

It's not Stans job to support you. It's the collective shareholders in general. Make a delegate proposal in the delegate sub, lay out your plan in detail and see if your idea is worth funding. I'm eager to hear what your plan is!
[url="https://edabit.com"]https://edabit.com[/url]

fredafrica

Quote from: Stan on August 11, 2014, 04:06:29 AM
Quote from: bodenliu on August 11, 2014, 02:32:59 AM
well...I hope you all the best

any candidate for this role right now? how about kevin harrington? :P :P

He is moving from employee to independent entrepreneur with the same task but powerful new incentives and capabilities.

Hey Stan, I have a plan to promote the market in Africa for BTS. What do you think about this? I wish you gonna support me.

sumantso

Quote from: lil_jay890 on December 15, 2014, 08:41:01 AM
You all have been told the marketing campaign starts when 1.0 is released... Why do you insist on complaining about this?  Do you want BM to come on here and tell you for hundredth time what you already know? Is that really going to make you feel better?

In the meantime Bitreserve is running away with BitOIL and BitGLD, and they are far away from their '1.0' product either. Keep sleeping and all opportunities will be lost one by one.

So far Brian's contributions have been a good video, and a vapid website.

lil_jay890

You all have been told the marketing campaign starts when 1.0 is released... Why do you insist on complaining about this?  Do you want BM to come on here and tell you for hundredth time what you already know? Is that really going to make you feel better?

eagleeye

Quote from: Method-X on December 15, 2014, 03:41:31 AM
Quote from: NewMine on December 15, 2014, 03:27:44 AM
Quote from: Method-X on December 13, 2014, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: NewMine on December 13, 2014, 09:43:57 PM
"Next month", "Quarter X 201X", "Can't divulge our plans", "huge marketing push coming soon". The check is always in the mail responses are very alarming. There is a pattern here.

My guess is the Marketing team sucked all the funds they could get away with without producing. I3 has to stand by the erroneous decisions due to the scam landscape in the altcoin hobby. A internal controversy could make or break these things. So, I3 keeps kicking the can hoping Bitshares will catch fire on its own throug no help from the marketing team.

If anyone from Brian's team gets a 100% delegate elected, I will be divesting. I would rather Stacey from MethodX's team be a 100% delegate. Then again maybe Method and Stacey are already part of Brian's team? Has MethodX revealed his identity?

All members of this community who I communicate with regularly know who I am. My name is Matt MacPherson. Add me to Facebook, follow me on Twitter... whatever. I am not a member of Brians marketing team. I welcome you to join nullstreet and see first hand the progress being made by community members.

I was being facetious about you being part of Brian's team.

By the way, you are doing good work. You have done more in two-three months than Brian's team has done in over a year. Here he got $100k and BTS and you are getting about $1500/mo in BTS you have to liquidate just to bankroll any marketing, go figure. Keep it up if you can afford to float it! My guess is you will have to put up a chunk of your own money (you might want to check the opportunity cost on that money, buy more bts vs. spending money on marketing) to do any realistic viable advertising. I think there were a couple other delegates wanting to do marketing and sought out advertising only to find it would take months-years to gather enough bts to fund a decent highly viewed ad.

I will allow myself to be exploited temporarily. I'm fully aware of what's going on. I view this as more than just an investment and am genuinely committed to decentralized solutions and the social change it will inevitably bring about. For that, I think it's worth being taken advantage of. Otherwise, no rational person would ever do what I'm doing.

We will know who drives growth, it will be pretty easy to see.

I believe Brian P talked a good story that is all.  I think he is a "brain" for doing it but he needs to step up or else bitshares is not going to be where its at.

Its the saying "If you talk the talk, can you walk the walk."
TheValueSwan
www.thevalueswan.com

NewMine

Quote from: Method-X on December 15, 2014, 03:41:31 AM
Quote from: NewMine on December 15, 2014, 03:27:44 AM
Quote from: Method-X on December 13, 2014, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: NewMine on December 13, 2014, 09:43:57 PM
"Next month", "Quarter X 201X", "Can't divulge our plans", "huge marketing push coming soon". The check is always in the mail responses are very alarming. There is a pattern here.

My guess is the Marketing team sucked all the funds they could get away with without producing. I3 has to stand by the erroneous decisions due to the scam landscape in the altcoin hobby. A internal controversy could make or break these things. So, I3 keeps kicking the can hoping Bitshares will catch fire on its own throug no help from the marketing team.

If anyone from Brian's team gets a 100% delegate elected, I will be divesting. I would rather Stacey from MethodX's team be a 100% delegate. Then again maybe Method and Stacey are already part of Brian's team? Has MethodX revealed his identity?

All members of this community who I communicate with regularly know who I am. My name is Matt MacPherson. Add me to Facebook, follow me on Twitter... whatever. I am not a member of Brians marketing team. I welcome you to join nullstreet and see first hand the progress being made by community members.

I was being facetious about you being part of Brian's team.

By the way, you are doing good work. You have done more in two-three months than Brian's team has done in over a year. Here he got $100k and BTS and you are getting about $1500/mo in BTS you have to liquidate just to bankroll any marketing, go figure. Keep it up if you can afford to float it! My guess is you will have to put up a chunk of your own money (you might want to check the opportunity cost on that money, buy more bts vs. spending money on marketing) to do any realistic viable advertising. I think there were a couple other delegates wanting to do marketing and sought out advertising only to find it would take months-years to gather enough bts to fund a decent highly viewed ad.

+5% I know I'm getting completely screwed and will allow myself to be exploited temporarily. I'm fully aware of what's going on. I view this as more than just an investment and am genuinely committed to decentralized solutions and the social change it will inevitably bring about. For that, I think it's worth being taken advantage of. Otherwise, no rational person would ever do what I'm doing.

Well said. Hopefully I3 will step up and help you and others, which if i recall was "supposed" to be the plan. "Bootstrapping" was a term thrown around during AGS funding. I don't see any bootstrapping happening besides for the questionable (according to me) FMV plan.

I just hope you don't look back and find out you wasted your money or could've put that money into BTS as a long term investment. I really dont think BTS is all of a sudden going to the moon. Especially taking the FMV route. It's going to be a long ride, probably 6 years before we get near $1/bts.

Method-X

#46
Quote from: NewMine on December 15, 2014, 03:27:44 AM
Quote from: Method-X on December 13, 2014, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: NewMine on December 13, 2014, 09:43:57 PM
"Next month", "Quarter X 201X", "Can't divulge our plans", "huge marketing push coming soon". The check is always in the mail responses are very alarming. There is a pattern here.

My guess is the Marketing team sucked all the funds they could get away with without producing. I3 has to stand by the erroneous decisions due to the scam landscape in the altcoin hobby. A internal controversy could make or break these things. So, I3 keeps kicking the can hoping Bitshares will catch fire on its own throug no help from the marketing team.

If anyone from Brian's team gets a 100% delegate elected, I will be divesting. I would rather Stacey from MethodX's team be a 100% delegate. Then again maybe Method and Stacey are already part of Brian's team? Has MethodX revealed his identity?

All members of this community who I communicate with regularly know who I am. My name is Matt MacPherson. Add me to Facebook, follow me on Twitter... whatever. I am not a member of Brians marketing team. I welcome you to join nullstreet and see first hand the progress being made by community members.

I was being facetious about you being part of Brian's team.

By the way, you are doing good work. You have done more in two-three months than Brian's team has done in over a year. Here he got $100k and BTS and you are getting about $1500/mo in BTS you have to liquidate just to bankroll any marketing, go figure. Keep it up if you can afford to float it! My guess is you will have to put up a chunk of your own money (you might want to check the opportunity cost on that money, buy more bts vs. spending money on marketing) to do any realistic viable advertising. I think there were a couple other delegates wanting to do marketing and sought out advertising only to find it would take months-years to gather enough bts to fund a decent highly viewed ad.

I will allow myself to be exploited temporarily. I'm fully aware of what's going on. I view this as more than just an investment and am genuinely committed to decentralized solutions and the social change it will inevitably bring about. For that, I think it's worth being taken advantage of. Otherwise, no rational person would ever do what I'm doing.
[url="https://edabit.com"]https://edabit.com[/url]

NewMine

Quote from: Method-X on December 13, 2014, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: NewMine on December 13, 2014, 09:43:57 PM
"Next month", "Quarter X 201X", "Can't divulge our plans", "huge marketing push coming soon". The check is always in the mail responses are very alarming. There is a pattern here.

My guess is the Marketing team sucked all the funds they could get away with without producing. I3 has to stand by the erroneous decisions due to the scam landscape in the altcoin hobby. A internal controversy could make or break these things. So, I3 keeps kicking the can hoping Bitshares will catch fire on its own throug no help from the marketing team.

If anyone from Brian's team gets a 100% delegate elected, I will be divesting. I would rather Stacey from MethodX's team be a 100% delegate. Then again maybe Method and Stacey are already part of Brian's team? Has MethodX revealed his identity?

All members of this community who I communicate with regularly know who I am. My name is Matt MacPherson. Add me to Facebook, follow me on Twitter... whatever. I am not a member of Brians marketing team. I welcome you to join nullstreet and see first hand the progress being made by community members.

I was being facetious about you being part of Brian's team.

By the way, you are doing good work. You have done more in two-three months than Brian's team has done in over a year. Here he got $100k and BTS and you are getting about $1500/mo in BTS you have to liquidate just to bankroll any marketing, go figure. Keep it up if you can afford to float it! My guess is you will have to put up a chunk of your own money (you might want to check the opportunity cost on that money, buy more bts vs. spending money on marketing) to do any realistic viable advertising. I think there were a couple other delegates wanting to do marketing and sought out advertising only to find it would take months-years to gather enough bts to fund a decent highly viewed ad.

merlin0113

Quote from: eagleeye on December 14, 2014, 07:00:02 AM
IMHO, I believe that incentives should be shared with the unofficial marketing team and anyone who contributes positively on nullstreet.

We are talking about millions of BTS and it's much more expensive by then. So say yes to your suggestion means say yes to massive potential talents being employed by blockchain.

eagleeye

IMHO, I believe that incentives should be shared with the unofficial marketing team and anyone who contributes positively on nullstreet.
TheValueSwan
www.thevalueswan.com

toast

Quote from: NewMine on December 13, 2014, 09:43:57 PM
"Next month", "Quarter X 201X", "Can't divulge our plans", "huge marketing push coming soon". The check is always in the mail responses are very alarming. There is a pattern here.

My guess is the Marketing team sucked all the funds they could get away with without producing. I3 has to stand by the erroneous decisions due to the scam landscape in the altcoin hobby. A internal controversy could make or break these things. So, I3 keeps kicking the can hoping Bitshares will catch fire on its own throug no help from the marketing team.

If anyone from Brian's team gets a 100% delegate elected, I will be divesting. I would rather Stacey from MethodX's team be a 100% delegate. Then again maybe Method and Stacey are already part of Brian's team? Has MethodX revealed his identity?

Your "guesses" are accurate though, aren't they? Dan stopped paying brian a salary and instead gave him + new outside marketers from st martin a conditional reward. Meanwhile he is both supporting outside marketing attempts and trying to do some sort of marketing thing with FMV and adam.

There's no controversies to be had, there was no scam (maliciousness), only a lack of results and accountability.
Do not use this post as information for making any important decisions. The only agreements I ever make are informal and non-binding. Take the same precautions as when dealing with a compromised account, scammer, sockpuppet, etc.

liondani

Quote from: hpenvy on December 13, 2014, 10:05:29 PM
Open Source Software Should Never Have Closed Source Marketing

+5%



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Method-X

#40
Quote from: NewMine on December 13, 2014, 09:43:57 PM
"Next month", "Quarter X 201X", "Can't divulge our plans", "huge marketing push coming soon". The check is always in the mail responses are very alarming. There is a pattern here.

My guess is the Marketing team sucked all the funds they could get away with without producing. I3 has to stand by the erroneous decisions due to the scam landscape in the altcoin hobby. A internal controversy could make or break these things. So, I3 keeps kicking the can hoping Bitshares will catch fire on its own throug no help from the marketing team.

If anyone from Brian's team gets a 100% delegate elected, I will be divesting. I would rather Stacey from MethodX's team be a 100% delegate. Then again maybe Method and Stacey are already part of Brian's team? Has MethodX revealed his identity?

All members of this community who I communicate with regularly know who I am. My name is Matt MacPherson. Add me to Facebook, follow me on Twitter... whatever. I am not a member of Brians marketing team. I welcome you to join nullstreet and see first hand the progress being made by community members.
[url="https://edabit.com"]https://edabit.com[/url]

hpenvy

Quote from: NewMine on December 13, 2014, 09:43:57 PM
Then again maybe Method and Stacey are already part of Brian's team? Has MethodX revealed his identity?

The only thing that matters to me is results.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=12131.0

MethodX's initiative has encouraged a large group of people busting ass for this community daily in the marketing side of the house on NullStreet.  He could be the Jolly Green Giant for all I care, results.  All our efforts are completely open on NullStreet.

Open Source Software Should Never Have Closed Source Marketing
=============
btsx address: hpenvy
Tips appreciated for good work

NewMine

"Next month", "Quarter X 201X", "Can't divulge our plans", "huge marketing push coming soon". The check is always in the mail responses are very alarming. There is a pattern here.

My guess is the Marketing team sucked all the funds they could get away with without producing. I3 has to stand by the erroneous decisions due to the scam landscape in the altcoin hobby. A internal controversy could make or break these things. So, I3 keeps kicking the can hoping Bitshares will catch fire on its own throug no help from the marketing team.

If anyone from Brian's team gets a 100% delegate elected, I will be divesting. I would rather Stacey from MethodX's team be a 100% delegate. Then again maybe Method and Stacey are already part of Brian's team? Has MethodX revealed his identity?

mitao


Quote from: lzr1900 on December 13, 2014, 04:18:52 AM
Just tell us what B had done during the last 4 months?
he seems didn't make any progress.


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lzr1900

Just tell us what B had done during the last 4 months?
he seems didn't make any progress.

onceuponatime

Quote from: delulo on August 11, 2014, 03:06:51 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on August 11, 2014, 02:58:57 PM
Quote from: delulo on August 11, 2014, 02:55:02 PM
QuoteWe have targets for number of downloads, number of funded wallets, total market cap, etc. 
Is Brian the only one who is paid when those targets are met?

No
Freerider problem / group trap? Just trying to understand the incentive structure....

Yes, I would also like to understand the incentive structure, especially now that a member of Brian's team is asking for delegate pay.

liondani

Quote from: MktDirector on August 11, 2014, 02:24:29 PM
Thanks guys.   My primary focus will be all about BitSharesX right now as the strategy for upcoming DACs is still being drafted.   Riverhead is right, I have a lot more skin in the game as I'll only be rewarded for my efforts and results now and no longer paid for my time. 

The marketing campaign we plan to run won't take effect overnight, but when it does, we expect to see significant adoption and inflow of capital to BitSharesX. We have targets for number of downloads, number of funded wallets, total market cap, etc.  So please, get your hands on BTSX now, while it's still cheap. I want the community to benefit from what's to come, since you all built this as much as any of us have. 

B
please don't post again. Every time you do, I am getting crazy because  I have no more money  to invest on  BTSX...  :'(
[url="https://www.steempeak.com/@liondani"]https://www.steempeak.com/@liondani[/url]

Gentso1

Quote from: Stan on August 11, 2014, 04:30:25 PM
Quote from: bitcoinba on August 11, 2014, 04:05:32 PM
Does this mean that BTS/I3 are going to be open to funding new and different marketing entities or efforts?

Is there any strategy or breakdown on marketing efforts, results and/or analytics?  Any type of github like organization dedicated to the marketing efforts that have been produced so far and what the future goals are?

Anything is possible.  The only thing you should conclude right now is that we are implementing a two-pronged marketing plan - one developed by the Chinese community and one developed in St. Martin.

We are very optimistic about each of them separately.  Considered together ... kapow!


I think this is a great approach to marketing. Everyone is kinda going about it the best way they can but with all of us having the same goal. We may not agree on the roads to get their but as long as we get there thats the important part.
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Quote from: bitcoinba on August 11, 2014, 04:05:32 PM
Does this mean that BTS/I3 are going to be open to funding new and different marketing entities or efforts?

Is there any strategy or breakdown on marketing efforts, results and/or analytics?  Any type of github like organization dedicated to the marketing efforts that have been produced so far and what the future goals are?

Anything is possible.  The only thing you should conclude right now is that we are implementing a two-pronged marketing plan - one developed by the Chinese community and one developed in St. Martin.

We are very optimistic about each of them separately.  Considered together ... kapow!

Anything said on these forums does not constitute an intent to create a legal obligation or contract of any kind.   These are merely my opinions which I reserve the right to change at any time.

bitcoinba

Does this mean that BTS/I3 are going to be open to funding new and different marketing entities or efforts?

Is there any strategy or breakdown on marketing efforts, results and/or analytics?  Any type of github like organization dedicated to the marketing efforts that have been produced so far and what the future goals are?

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Empirical1

Quote from: MktDirector on August 11, 2014, 02:24:29 PM
Thanks guys.   My primary focus will be all about BitSharesX right now as the strategy for upcoming DACs is still being drafted.   Riverhead is right, I have a lot more skin in the game as I'll only be rewarded for my efforts and results now and no longer paid for my time. 

The marketing campaign we plan to run won't take effect overnight, but when it does, we expect to see significant adoption and inflow of capital to BitSharesX. We have targets for number of downloads, number of funded wallets, total market cap, etc.  So please, get your hands on BTSX now, while it's still cheap. I want the community to benefit from what's to come, since you all built this as much as any of us have. 

B

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GaltReport

Quote from: MktDirector on August 11, 2014, 02:24:29 PM
...I have a lot more skin in the game as I'll only be rewarded for my efforts and results now and no longer paid for my time....

Good idea.  You now become more of an investor with great upside potential for your efforts.

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santaclause102

Quote from: bytemaster on August 11, 2014, 02:58:57 PM
Quote from: delulo on August 11, 2014, 02:55:02 PM
QuoteWe have targets for number of downloads, number of funded wallets, total market cap, etc. 
Is Brian the only one who is paid when those targets are met?

No
Freerider problem / group trap? Just trying to understand the incentive structure....

alt

Quote from: Riverhead on August 11, 2014, 03:00:17 PM
Quote from: CLains on August 11, 2014, 02:46:22 PM
Sounds like an awesome plan guys!

I love that Brian, Toast, DACsunlimited etc. are getting their own ventures up and running. More skin in the game, more responsibility and boundless awesomeness.


Check out the new DAC Sun Limited website.  It looks awesome!
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Quote from: CLains on August 11, 2014, 02:46:22 PM
Sounds like an awesome plan guys!

I love that Brian, Toast, DACsunlimited etc. are getting their own ventures up and running. More skin in the game, more responsibility and boundless awesomeness.


Check out the new DAC Sun Limited website.  It looks awesome!

bytemaster

Quote from: delulo on August 11, 2014, 02:55:02 PM
QuoteWe have targets for number of downloads, number of funded wallets, total market cap, etc. 
Is Brian the only one who is paid when those targets are met?

No
For the latest updates checkout my blog: [url="http://bytemaster.bitshares.org"]http://bytemaster.bitshares.org[/url]
Anything said on these forums does not constitute an intent to create a legal obligation or contract between myself and anyone else.   These are merely my opinions and I reserve the right to change them at any time.

santaclause102

QuoteWe have targets for number of downloads, number of funded wallets, total market cap, etc. 
Is Brian the only one who is paid when those targets are met?

CLains

Sounds like an awesome plan guys!

I love that Brian, Toast, DACsunlimited etc. are getting their own ventures up and running. More skin in the game, more responsibility and boundless awesomeness.

Quote from: MktDirector on August 11, 2014, 02:24:29 PM
we have targets for number of downloads, number of funded wallets, total market cap, etc.  So please, get your hands on BTSX now, while it's still cheap. I want the community to benefit from what's to come, since you all built this as much as any of us have. 

This is exactly it! All the best! If you succeed we all do. :)
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Quote from: MktDirector on August 11, 2014, 02:24:29 PM
get your hands on BTSX now, while it's still cheap. I want the community to benefit from what's to come, since you all built this as much as any of us have. 


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MktDirector

Thanks guys.   My primary focus will be all about BitSharesX right now as the strategy for upcoming DACs is still being drafted.   Riverhead is right, I have a lot more skin in the game as I'll only be rewarded for my efforts and results now and no longer paid for my time. 

The marketing campaign we plan to run won't take effect overnight, but when it does, we expect to see significant adoption and inflow of capital to BitSharesX. We have targets for number of downloads, number of funded wallets, total market cap, etc.  So please, get your hands on BTSX now, while it's still cheap. I want the community to benefit from what's to come, since you all built this as much as any of us have. 

B

bytemaster

FYI:  Brian is more enthused with BTSX than at any point in the past 9 months.  He is working for marketing of BTSX, VOTE, DNS, any any other DAC.   
For the latest updates checkout my blog: [url="http://bytemaster.bitshares.org"]http://bytemaster.bitshares.org[/url]
Anything said on these forums does not constitute an intent to create a legal obligation or contract between myself and anyone else.   These are merely my opinions and I reserve the right to change them at any time.

rysgc

Good luck Brian in your new direction and I'm sure we'll hear more from you  +5%
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#16
I always wanted to run a completely virtual company almost as a lark.  Outsource HR, Development, Sales, Marketing, and Accounting and you could run the whole business from your dinning room :) .


On a more serious note having Marketing outsourced to Brian's new venture means he has a lot more skin in the game. Now promoting BitShares is not just a job for Brian. It's a potential feather in the portfolio of a new company. The stakes are much higher, the rewards much greater.


Or to put it in Doge-speak: Much Stake. Such Reward. So Marketing.

santaclause102

I am sure that this makes sense for I3, Bitshares and Brian!

I wonder though (complete speculation) if this is part of a decentralization for the purpose of decentralization strategy.

(Corporate) centralization can make things more efficient http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_the_firm
Centralization can also lead to inefficiency.
It should be a case by case decision.

To me a decentralized society is a goal in itself. Whether a decentralized Bitshares ecosystem is the most efficient way to reach this goal, to me would be an instrumental case by case decision.

Any "official" comment on the strategy? (if there is one) :) 

cass

#14
Quote from: Stan on August 11, 2014, 04:06:29 AM
Quote from: bodenliu on August 11, 2014, 02:32:59 AM
well...I hope you all the best

any candidate for this role right now? how about kevin harrington? :P :P

He is moving from employee to independent entrepreneur with the same task but powerful new incentives and capabilities.

:) yeah - good choice - great for the community - power to the DACs +5%

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Stan

Quote from: bodenliu on August 11, 2014, 02:32:59 AM
well...I hope you all the best

any candidate for this role right now? how about kevin harrington? :P :P

He is moving from employee to independent entrepreneur with the same task but powerful new incentives and capabilities. 
Anything said on these forums does not constitute an intent to create a legal obligation or contract of any kind.   These are merely my opinions which I reserve the right to change at any time.

ripplexiaoshan

May I ask, is this part of the strategy of 3I or your own decision?
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Quote from: MktDirector on August 11, 2014, 12:55:23 AM
As someone who's been an entrepreneur and self employed nearly all of my professional life, I've always been drawn to starting businesses.   As of today, I'll once again be self employed, as I am launching a new marketing company.   I'll continue on as brand champion for BitShares and will still be very involved with the BitShares team, but will no longer draw a salary.  I believe there will soon be a real need to market and promote new DACs and I want to focus my efforts on doing just that.   

One of our core values at BitShares has always been about decentralization.  In the next six months I expect the pace of decentralization to increase, even among BitShares as an organization.  We will have several businesses spring out of our core team, this one being just one of them.  I have put together an incredible team of my own and our primary focus in the next couple months will be in improving and promoting BitSharesX, as well as strategic marketing for several upcoming DACs.   

Expect in the near future to see a link for my company on the partners page and feel free to reach out if you're a project lead on a DAC and you'd like to discuss how we can help you with your marketing needs.   Thanks BitShares forum, and here's to even greater days ahead for BitShares! 

Bigger Than Bitcoin,
Brian

Do you have a marketing plan to show us or something we can use to measure progress behind your efforts?

So far Bitshares X isn't even showing signs of growth so a lot of us are skeptical right now. When will we see positive results and what do you plan to do?
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merockstar

Does this mean you're participating as a hobbyist instead of a paid, pro marketing guy?

This would kind of disappoint me. I wanted to see what you would be able to do once the ball got rolling on bitUSD and BitShares Music.

bodenliu

well...I hope you all the best

any candidate for this role right now? how about kevin harrington? :P :P

cass

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onceuponatime

I wish you very good luck and prosperity - as it will undoubtedly pay dividends to all of us.

Would you give a very brief outline of your business model? It might be an aid to people to know how to interact with your new venture.


MktDirector

As someone who's been an entrepreneur and self employed nearly all of my professional life, I've always been drawn to starting businesses.   As of today, I'll once again be self employed, as I am launching a new marketing company.   I'll continue on as brand champion for BitShares and will still be very involved with the BitShares team, but will no longer draw a salary.  I believe there will soon be a real need to market and promote new DACs and I want to focus my efforts on doing just that.   

One of our core values at BitShares has always been about decentralization.  In the next six months I expect the pace of decentralization to increase, even among BitShares as an organization.  We will have several businesses spring out of our core team, this one being just one of them.  I have put together an incredible team of my own and our primary focus in the next couple months will be in improving and promoting BitSharesX, as well as strategic marketing for several upcoming DACs.   

Expect in the near future to see a link for my company on the partners page and feel free to reach out if you're a project lead on a DAC and you'd like to discuss how we can help you with your marketing needs.   Thanks BitShares forum, and here's to even greater days ahead for BitShares! 

Bigger Than Bitcoin,
Brian