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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winklevoss_twins#Bitcoin

the same guys whonfought over intellectual property rights for facebook...that should give some clue as to how freedom loving they are and in what direction they want to help evolve the bitcoin ecosystem.

Based on a movie full of inaccuracies everybody saw. Come on now! You can't deny there was a conflict of interest. Facebook settled with them, which to me looks like an admission of guilt.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winklevoss_twins#Bitcoin

the same guys whonfought over intellectual property rights for facebook...that should give some clue as to how freedom loving they are and in what direction they want to help evolve the bitcoin ecosystem.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winklevoss_twins#Bitcoin

Man... Once BTSX has the market functionality, I see no reason why strategic/marketing efforts wouldn't approach Winklevoss twins. Heck can you imagine BTSX listed as ETF on the NYSE?

Drool!

These are good examples.  There is a lot to be said for whales....:)  and the  mass market for that matter.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winklevoss_twins#Bitcoin

Man... Once BTSX has the market functionality, I see no reason why strategic/marketing efforts wouldn't approach Winklevoss twins. Heck can you imagine BTSX listed as ETF on the NYSE?

Drool!


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BTSX needs momentum; market cap is how the avalanche will start.

BTC is what it is today not because of social media presence, trendy ads, political lobbying or clever P2P marketing.

BTC is what it is because there are a few very powerful and connected hands pulling the strings.

We need a few whales, not a bunch of minnows.

I3/Brian are doing this right.

You may be right about this...I'm curious as to whom you think the few very powerful and connected are that have been pulling the strings for BTC?

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Can remember the bitcoin bubble  .. from 50€ to 800€ was assumbed to be caused by the chineses .. also the bubble pop from 800€ to 500€ :)

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I'd like to see bitUSD and bitEURfor the masses!
don't forget/underestimate bitCNY,  see how strong our Chinese community is and how powerful the Chinese are in general right know... Don't forget that for the Chinese population (and not only) Bitshares is the ultimate tool to get economic free. They will "surprise " (some of) us,  remember that...
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don't forget/underestimate bitCNY,  see how strong our Chinese community is and how powerful the Chinese are in general right know... Don't forget that for the Chinese population (and not only) Bitshares is the ultimate tool to get economic free. They will "surprise " (some of) us,  remember that...

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BTSX needs momentum; market cap is how the avalanche will start.

BTC is what is today not because of social media presence, trendy ads, political lobbying or clever P2P marketing.

BTC is what it is because there are a few very powerful and connected hands pulling the strings.

We need a few whales, not a bunch of minnows.

I3/Brian are doing this right.
Once I better understood what BitShares was trying to do it made sense that this isn't a tool looking for adoption by the masses. It's a tool for businesses and those that work/play in the ForEx and equities markets.

The DACs built with the toolkit will need to appeal to the masses if that's their market (music vs vote).

I see the marketing of this more like the marketing we see for DuPont, 3M, or Java. It's more about making people aware of the framework than trying to sell it to them so that when a DAC says it's built with BitShares people aren't hearing it for the first time.

With that in mind I too feel I3 is doing this right.

As for doing it right.  There is one place I would like to see more effort placed.  That is helping the altcoins with vibrant communities/adaptive devs get their models off the ground and using some version of dpos.  I think 5/5% is fair for PTS/AGS during a certain window of time, after which coins that use bitshares dpos models are expected give 10/10%.

Also, the current DACs,  (especially bitshares lotto) should try to employ the bitshares diamond casino strategy to ensure a broader user base will not only download amd use the bitshares wallet, but get in a habit of using it.  We are talking about subtle things that are really important...
Though bytemaster would likely say a casino that gives back more than people pay in would be giving things away for free (and destructive to value), I believe the diamonds casino would be a great way to serve as a faucet that makes holders of popular altcoins want their coin to switch to dpos. It is also a great way to consistently reward the altcoin holders who learn to use the wallet and give them a small stake in upcoming DACs. 

I guess my point is thay we are limited by few barriers in this space, so we should try to work together to bring good ideas to life.  Not all of them will work, but worst case we tried to do something really new and inspiring for others...

stop complaining -- and start helping ....come in guys .. marketing camaigns may not get the right effect if they are completely transparent before launching the campaign...

This has been why the mumble server is up and running and beyondbitcoinx site have been in the works. Trust me, I like to complain as much as the next guy but we all have to play our little part. Either help make tools or use the tools made.  This isn't an altcoin we are talking about, this is the base of an entirely new economy...so we need to create, edit or polish content so other potential users can listen and know they can play a part in the building of this ecosystem too.

There is so much possibility here guys and gals... lets find ways to collaborate, make value and ethically get paid.  That is the best marketing magic around.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2014, 04:26:19 am by fuznuts »
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I am confused as to how marketing efforts are supposed to be evaluated by market cap. The relationship is simply corollary. I can not think of how this could be an effective measure of the success of a marketing campaign longterm, nor how you would be able create an efficient contractual relationship between the two parties.

Is there a precedent for this kind of arrangement? Has there been a Fortune 500 company that contracts its marketing companies or pays its marketing department based on fluctuations in its market cap? If so, I would love to see the data on it. If I were a marketing company I would love this arrangement as I could pick the hottest companies as clients, sign a deal, do no real work and just hope that the market effect allows the market cap to increase, and then enjoy success. I would sign as many deals as possible. I am absolutely not suggesting that this happening, but pointing it out as a an obvious potential flaw in this type of structure.

This potential "flaw" is not lost on us and has been addressed.  There are specific marketing objectives that are being put into place that must be executed.  Primary focus is to bring money into the system.  The product they are selling is BitUSD / Paypal...  they bring customers stock price goes up.  Very direct relationship for most companies.    Obviously, signing a deal that doesn't require specific actions doesn't make sense.   Paying bonuses based upon performance does.

I made the comment to promote the discussion on the specific strategy as to how the performance is measured and rewarded. I think if the ideology and mechanics of pay for performance for DAC marketing is fleshed out and opened up then other able marketers can partake.


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I'd like to see bitUSD and bitEURfor the masses!