Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying

[Blahbleuhbleuh]

It's extremely important for everybody downloading the wallet that everything works smoothly. We need all clients with the latest update to connect to the network and execute transactions. That's the bare minimum.

The dev team has everybody's support, they are doing a great job, these things happen, but the sooner we're up and running again, the better BTSX can make its case.

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

Not bad, we fooled the FBI into ignoring us...

Ha! Good one.  +5%

[liondani]

change your FUD "style" comment please.


PS I say "please" only the first time  ;)

[TurkeyLeg]

After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke！ I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

This is valuable feedback on user sentiment/experience and should not be taken lightly.

Yes, there is a core group here that understands the tech is beta and we are all amazed at how well the peg has held up.

But we cannot ignore that BTSX is in the wild, has climbed up the leader board and is now visible to a much wider audience.

These concerns have merit and we should be more sympathetic to users that are frustrated - they have cause to be.

So let's acknowledge rather than dismiss.

+5% while I agree with everyone regarding the alpha/beta nature of the client and the platform, and applaud all the hardwork and monumental achievements going on, I do also agree with you. The more open and sensitive we are to the folks on the 2nd floor (like myself) the more willing they will be to reconsider leaving and will go long on the tech.

[CLains]

This guy turning red angry means green light to buy again.

When the reverse HODLER sold the price rose as if on cue -
the only rule of trading is Murphy's law for your inner FBI.

[stuartcharles]

How many people have we heard saying that they were unlucky not to learn about bitcoin at its early days when it was still cheap to buy? we now know what most of them would do, absolutely NOTHING! I would like too to buy bitcoins with the features and stability it has today at the price it had 2-3 years ago but guess what... this isn't going to happen.

+5%

[Riverhead]

How many people have we heard saying that they were unlucky not to learn about bitcoin at its early days when it was still cheap to buy? we now know what most of them would do, absolutely NOTHING! I would like too to buy bitcoins with the features and stability it has today at the price it had 2-3 years ago but guess what... this isn't going to happen.

+5%  Well said.

[chryspano]

How many people have we heard saying that they were unlucky not to learn about bitcoin at its early days when it was still cheap to buy? we now know what most of them would do, absolutely NOTHING! I would like too to buy bitcoins with the features and stability it has today at the price it had 2-3 years ago but guess what... this isn't going to happen.

[Empirical1]

After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke！ I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

This is valuable feedback on user sentiment/experience and should not be taken lightly.

Yes, there is a core group here that understands the tech is beta and we are all amazed at how well the peg has held up.

But we cannot ignore that BTSX is in the wild, has climbed up the leader board and is now visible to a much wider audience.

These concerns have merit and we should be more sympathetic to users that are frustrated - they have cause to be.

So let's acknowledge rather than dismiss.

+5% I was surprised at the 'shut the f*** up' reply.

I think BitAssets are amazing. I think I can count the people I trust on one hand, yet I can honestly say I have 100% trust in BM to act with integrity and for a poker player that's saying a lot. I also believe he and the team can adapt and evolve as necessary. Basically I believe 'If BM is for us, who can be against us?' :) 

However a lot of people have just been exposed to BitAssets, BitShares and the team behind it for the first time in the last few weeks and perhaps it wasn't marketed as beta as clearly as it should have been and was short term oversold relative to where it was imo.  So I empathize with them especially as a non technical user.

My only disappointment though is I didn't sell a bit high so I could buy even more low...

The OP registered in January.

That's a fair point... :)

[JakeThePanda]

After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke！ I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

This is valuable feedback on user sentiment/experience and should not be taken lightly.

Yes, there is a core group here that understands the tech is beta and we are all amazed at how well the peg has held up.

But we cannot ignore that BTSX is in the wild, has climbed up the leader board and is now visible to a much wider audience.

These concerns have merit and we should be more sympathetic to users that are frustrated - they have cause to be.

So let's acknowledge rather than dismiss.

+5% I was surprised at the 'shut the f*** up' reply.

I think BitAssets are amazing. I think I can count the people I trust on one hand, yet I can honestly say I have 100% trust in BM to act with integrity and for a poker player that's saying a lot. I also believe he and the team can adapt and evolve as necessary. Basically I believe 'If BM is for us, who can be against us?' :) 

However a lot of people have just been exposed to BitAssets, BitShares and the team behind it for the first time in the last few weeks and perhaps it wasn't marketed as beta as clearly as it should have been and was short term oversold relative to where it was imo.  So I empathize with them especially as a non technical user.

My only disappointment though is I didn't sell a bit high so I could buy even more low...

The OP registered in January.

[Empirical1]

After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke！ I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

This is valuable feedback on user sentiment/experience and should not be taken lightly.

Yes, there is a core group here that understands the tech is beta and we are all amazed at how well the peg has held up.

But we cannot ignore that BTSX is in the wild, has climbed up the leader board and is now visible to a much wider audience.

These concerns have merit and we should be more sympathetic to users that are frustrated - they have cause to be.

So let's acknowledge rather than dismiss.

+5% I was surprised at the 'shut the f*** up' reply.

I think BitAssets are amazing. I think I can count the people I trust on one hand, yet I can honestly say I have 100% trust in BM to act with integrity and for a poker player that's saying a lot. I also believe he and the team can adapt and evolve as necessary. Basically I believe 'If BM is for us, who can be against us?' :) 

However a lot of people have just been exposed to BitAssets, BitShares and the team behind it for the first time in the last few weeks and perhaps it wasn't marketed as beta as clearly as it should have been and was short term oversold relative to where it was imo.  So I empathize with them especially as a non technical user.

My only disappointment though is I didn't sell a bit high so I could buy even more low...

[CoinHoarder]

After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke！ I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

This is valuable feedback on user sentiment/experience and should not be taken lightly.

Yes, there is a core group here that understands the tech is beta and we are all amazed at how well the peg has held up.

But we cannot ignore that BTSX is in the wild, has climbed up the leader board and is now visible to a much wider audience.

These concerns have merit and we should be more sympathetic to users that are frustrated - they have cause to be.

So let's acknowledge rather than dismiss.

I agree, the OP was giving valid criticism and it should be considered not dismissed. We gained a lot of users the past week or so with the huge run up in price and launch of bitassets, and the attention that both of those things brought Bitshares. When people's first impression is that of bug riddled software, that is not a good first impression to make. First impressions are very important.

I hope that all the Bitshares team has put other DACs aside and are working on fixing bugs rather than fixing bitassets or working on new DACs. If the first Bitshares project is a bust, then the remaining projects are likely to be a bust as well. The success of BitsharesX is paramount to the success of the Bitshares brand.

[jae208]

Sorry to see you leave. FYI even at current prices I have 2 times ROI so I'm not upset :)

[JakeThePanda]

DAC Sun Limited took our beta toolkit and released it as early as humanly possible.  As a result it crashes and hasn't been throughly tested.

That said, BTSX is up and trading and once it stabilizes then the price will start to rise again. 

I for one am relieved that the price has fallen because the code is not ready for those higher valuations.

Bytemaster, what the hell is wrong with you?  Anyone with half a brain can code up a bug free decentralized bank in their spare time.  ;)

[oldman]

After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke！ I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

This is valuable feedback on user sentiment/experience and should not be taken lightly.

Yes, there is a core group here that understands the tech is beta and we are all amazed at how well the peg has held up.

But we cannot ignore that BTSX is in the wild, has climbed up the leader board and is now visible to a much wider audience.

These concerns have merit and we should be more sympathetic to users that are frustrated - they have cause to be.

So let's acknowledge rather than dismiss.

[leon]

Fantastic job you guys are doing !!Keep going  :) :) :) +5% +5% +5%

[vegolino]

I disagree with FBI  and would like to say BIG THANK YOU  to all dev. team.   +5%

[CLains]

This guy turning red angry means green light to buy again.

[kokojie]

Not bad, we fooled the FBI into ignoring us...

haha  +5%

[cass]

Not bad, we fooled the FBI into ignoring us...

;D  +5%

[biophil]

Not bad, we fooled the FBI into ignoring us...

[CalabiYau]

After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke！ I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

Sorry to see you so impatient, saw tons of posts like this since the early days of bitcoin. That we have today a system that is still buggy but working is a fantastic outcome. I3 has delivered and honored my investment. I am very confident regarding the future of this venture. 

[cass]

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7823.15

keep calm and read... if you don't want to help beta testing, just leave at it is .. and join when bugs/issues are fixed (but if all users would thinking like this.. how we should get a successful beta testing phase))... it's a beta version ...and there will be more issues in future to solve...sry to hear you leave ... if you'll be a bit more patient ... i promise you'll happy then :)

[LiquidStorm]

It did crash a few times but that is expected i have now fixed the issues downloading the latest release and running smooth as butter now

Its not easy creating a new banking network infrastructure 

Amazing job so far what you have done in so little time

I have faith in the price of bitsharesX i know Bitcoin started at less than 1cent.

The tech is more exciting then the $ IMO so i give the devs  +5%

[Riverhead]

That's why it's called 0.4.9, not 1.x.x, the version number means it's alpha software. This has only released for 2 months, do you think Bitcoin was problem free 2 months after release? Bitcoin still had a messy accidental hard fork 4 YEARS after release.

This, but maybe it should be advertised more clearly that this is still "beta" or "alpha" software? The gui  (and windows client) is still secondary in importance to an operating network and market infrastructure.

I agree with this. It should state on the DAC Sun Limited website that this is Alpha or Beta software in public testing phase. I know this and am happy to wade through the issues to make the software better. A new user seeing some of our marketing expecting a 1.x release version may be discouraged. Perhaps not as dramatic as FBI but discouraged none the less.

[bytemaster]

DAC Sun Limited took our beta toolkit and released it as early as humanly possible.  As a result it crashes and hasn't been throughly tested.

That said, BTSX is up and trading and once it stabilizes then the price will start to rise again. 

I for one am relieved that the price has fallen because the code is not ready for those higher valuations. 

[maqifrnswa]

That's why it's called 0.4.9, not 1.x.x, the version number means it's alpha software. This has only released for 2 months, do you think Bitcoin was problem free 2 months after release? Bitcoin still had a messy accidental hard fork 4 YEARS after release.

This, but maybe it should be advertised more clearly that this is still "beta" or "alpha" software? The gui  (and windows client) is still secondary in importance to an operating network and market infrastructure.

[G1ng3rBr34dM4n]

That's why it's called 0.4.9, not 1.x.x, the version number means it's alpha software. This has only released for 2 months, do you think Bitcoin was problem free 2 months after release? Bitcoin still had a messy accidental hard fork 4 YEARS after release.

+5%

[kokojie]

That's why it's called 0.4.9, not 1.x.x, the version number means it's alpha software. This has only released for 2 months, do you think Bitcoin was problem free 2 months after release? Bitcoin still had a messy accidental hard fork + nasty transaction malleability bug, 4 YEARS after release.

[GaltReport]

LoL... take your FUD and just leave ...

This is not bitcoin
This is not a 5 year old wallet
This has a new blockchain tech
New network code
New gui
New market
TITAN

you have absolutly no idea whar i3 and tge devs have achieve in recent months ..
Just sh*** the f*** up and take your FUD with you!

Or that too! LOL

[GaltReport]

Sorry to see you leave but many of us were able to get it synched, a bit slowly for sure but it did synch and I am using it.  I recommend leaving it sit alone and not touch it while it, possibly slowly, synchs.

[xeroc]

LoL... take your FUD and just leave ...

This is not bitcoin
This is not a 5 year old wallet
This has a new blockchain tech
New network code
New gui
New market
TITAN

you have absolutly no idea whar i3 and tge devs have achieve in recent months ..
Just sh*** the f*** up and take your FUD with you!

[FBI]

After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke！ I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.