insufficient depth ?

[xeroc]

I was barely hanging on at the mumble hangout.

oh boy .. hope you get better quickly ..
being sick sucks

thanks for yet joining the hangout

[Empirical1.1]

I was barely hanging on at the mumble hangout.

Sorry to hear Dan. Get some rest, feel better.

+5%

[Riverhead]

I was barely hanging on at the mumble hangout.

Sorry to hear Dan. Get some rest, feel better.

[bytemaster]

I was barely hanging on at the mumble hangout.

[xeroc]

Doh.  My bad.  I was sick and canceled the wrong order.

I hope you've recovered from your sickness
:-*
:P

I don't believe BM is the 'sick' lead dev for cob's BitShares Music .. BM was pretty fine yesterday at the mumble hangout :)

[hadrian]

Doh.  My bad.  I was sick and canceled the wrong order.

I hope you've recovered from your sickness
:-*
:P

[bytemaster]

Doh.  My bad.  I was sick and canceled the wrong order. 

[Riverhead]

You can still trade BitBTC :)

Sure can :D. Maybe BM took his bids out of bitUSD while he figures out the "Reward/Dividend/Interest" logic.

[Markus]

You can still trade BitBTC :)

[wesphily]

ya...potentially due to interest news. Afraid people will buy out bitusd way above peg?

[Thiball]

And again, insufficient depth...

[Thiball]

It could be fair enough if it was the 1h Avg. Price 0.031760.  ;D ;D ;D

[bytemaster]

Nope... we just identified a potential bug and thought it would be better to halt trading than allow the market to do bad things.  Trading will remain suspended until all parties have a stable wallet and we have resolved some known issues.

UGH!@!!

What happens to all existing orders?  I have outstanding short positions and buy orders... but I don't want the buy orders to execute if there's a margin call and I don't need to cover.  If the system comes back online under the margin threshold for my short then I could be absolutely screwed.  There's a lot of money on the line with all the volatility and the plug just gets pulled? And it's not like I can't just wait around for it because it's Labor Day weekend. >:(

Feel free to cancel orders.   If you need to cover a short position and would like to buy BitUSD, I will send you BitUSD for BTSX at the last market price before it closed.

What was the last price before it closed please ?

$0.03 per BTSX.

[Thiball]

Nope... we just identified a potential bug and thought it would be better to halt trading than allow the market to do bad things.  Trading will remain suspended until all parties have a stable wallet and we have resolved some known issues.

UGH!@!!

What happens to all existing orders?  I have outstanding short positions and buy orders... but I don't want the buy orders to execute if there's a margin call and I don't need to cover.  If the system comes back online under the margin threshold for my short then I could be absolutely screwed.  There's a lot of money on the line with all the volatility and the plug just gets pulled? And it's not like I can't just wait around for it because it's Labor Day weekend. >:(

Feel free to cancel orders.   If you need to cover a short position and would like to buy BitUSD, I will send you BitUSD for BTSX at the last market price before it closed.

What was the last price before it closed please ?

[onceuponatime]

I just started 0.4.10
I am getting insufficient depth on USD:BTSX any idea when this might allow us to trade? Thanks in advance.

thought the same - got the wrong impression. market will start not with installation 0.4.10 or maybe they just wait for more updated delegates.

Toast said it might be Monday.

[Shentist]

I just started 0.4.10
I am getting insufficient depth on USD:BTSX any idea when this might allow us to trade? Thanks in advance.

thought the same - got the wrong impression. market will start not with installation 0.4.10 or maybe they just wait for more updated delegates.

[nikauforest]

I just started 0.4.10
I am getting insufficient depth on USD:BTSX any idea when this might allow us to trade? Thanks in advance.

[speedy]

No they both have to be 2.000.000+

Oh thanks :)

[graffenwalder]

No they both have to be 2.000.000+

[speedy]

The wallet is showing that the combined ASK + BID depth is still over 20 million. Is that not the minimum depth?

[Thiball]

Although the market on BitSharesX doesn't have the dept right now for trading you can still trade on an exchange like BTER in the mean time. I know it's not the same thing but it could scratch the itch :). BTER has BTSX and bitUSD.

Is that a joke  :P ?

The thing is I don't want to lose money. I think it's fair enough. I am aware that the wallet could have some bugs but when you stop the market, you have to tell everyone.

[Riverhead]

Although the market on BitSharesX doesn't have the dept right now for trading you can still trade on an exchange like BTER in the mean time. I know it's not the same thing but it could scratch the itch :). BTER has BTSX and bitUSD.

[Thiball]

Ok, great. So I'm stuck and I can't trade. Maybe this is a beta or alpha or whatever but this is real money...

When do you think we can start trading ? Today ? Thx

[liondani]

It would be awesome if users click on market tab on the BTSX wallet are informed for the market pause reasons...
Not all users come to this forum to get informed. I could suppose the majority isn't....

[doxymoron]

In another post BM said he's up 1.000.000 BTSX. So his order must have got filled.

Maybe he's not sure about putting in a new short.

Edit: or buy

Nope... we just identified a potential bug and thought it would be better to halt trading than allow the market to do bad things.  Trading will remain suspended until all parties have a stable wallet and we have resolved some known issues.

There really should be a separate forum post about this.  Maybe I just cant find it, but this is the only post I've seen regarding why no trading is going on.  And I had to dig for this.

[theoretical]

All orders will survive the fork, but after the fork they will execute relative to price feeds rather than the average. 

So I assume you're referring only to margin call orders.

What if the BitUSD price is going up (that is, the real price, determined by what people are willing to trade at) -- but that is not reflected in the feed until some time later?  I wonder if that delay might exceed the moving average delay long enough to increase the risk of getting into an FDIC situation, where some shorts' collateral is totally wiped out and they need to be "rescued".  Did the BitFDIC idea ever make it into production, anyway?  How does the BitFDIC deal with needing to print BTSX?

[1] I prefer avoiding the term "fork" or "hard fork" because that implies something awful.  Another thread proposed "Mandatory upgrade" to be the terminology for any change to the blockchain validation algorithm.

[bytemaster]

Feel free to cancel orders.   If you need to cover a short position and would like to buy BitUSD, I will send you BitUSD for BTSX at the last market price before it closed.

Will orders survive the fork? I have a short on USD that I can just let ride since we're trying to address the demand for bitUSD.

All orders will survive the fork, but after the fork they will execute relative to price feeds rather than the average. 

[Riverhead]

Feel free to cancel orders.   If you need to cover a short position and would like to buy BitUSD, I will send you BitUSD for BTSX at the last market price before it closed.

Will orders survive the fork? I have a short on USD that I can just let ride since we're trying to address the demand for bitUSD.

[yellowecho]

My wallet froze during the insufficient feed and I couldn't cancel but it worked after I restarted it so I deleted my post.  Thanks for the offer


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[bytemaster]

Nope... we just identified a potential bug and thought it would be better to halt trading than allow the market to do bad things.  Trading will remain suspended until all parties have a stable wallet and we have resolved some known issues.

UGH!@!!

What happens to all existing orders?  I have outstanding short positions and buy orders... but I don't want the buy orders to execute if there's a margin call and I don't need to cover.  If the system comes back online under the margin threshold for my short then I could be absolutely screwed.  There's a lot of money on the line with all the volatility and the plug just gets pulled? And it's not like I can't just wait around for it because it's Labor Day weekend. >:(

Feel free to cancel orders.   If you need to cover a short position and would like to buy BitUSD, I will send you BitUSD for BTSX at the last market price before it closed.

[jsidhu]

In another post BM said he's up 1.000.000 BTSX. So his order must have got filled.

Maybe he's not sure about putting in a new short.

Edit: or buy

Nope... we just identified a potential bug and thought it would be better to halt trading than allow the market to do bad things.  Trading will remain suspended until all parties have a stable wallet and we have resolved some known issues.

And market rises on that news, that the devs are taking proper precautionary measures, confidence rises.

[bytemaster]

... we just identified a potential bug and thought it would be better to halt trading than allow the market to do bad things.  Trading will remain suspended until all parties have a stable wallet and we have resolved some known issues.

Will this bug require a hard fork upgrade for delegates?

Yes.

[Fox]

... we just identified a potential bug and thought it would be better to halt trading than allow the market to do bad things.  Trading will remain suspended until all parties have a stable wallet and we have resolved some known issues.

Will this bug require a hard fork upgrade for delegates?

[Pheonike]

Will you be adding alert message feature in the Vault(wallet) that lets users know when trading has been halted or any other import messages?

[bytemaster]

In another post BM said he's up 1.000.000 BTSX. So his order must have got filled.

Maybe he's not sure about putting in a new short.

Edit: or buy

Nope... we just identified a potential bug and thought it would be better to halt trading than allow the market to do bad things.  Trading will remain suspended until all parties have a stable wallet and we have resolved some known issues.   

[graffenwalder]

In another post BM said he's up 1.000.000 BTSX. So his order must have got filled.

Maybe he's not sure about putting in a new short.

Edit: or buy

[Shentist]

is there a reason you pulled your depth out of the market and no trading is possible?

without message it is just annoying. could spent my time better!