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dannotestein

#44
I have heavily used bter and cryptsy without any real problems. Cryptsy can be a bit slow at times (both on deposits/withdrawals and sometimes even with getting order execution results, but nothing that caused me real fear). As others have said, leaving coin on an exchange has serious risks. I do it sometime to avoid the deposit time delays, but don't leave more in there than you can stand to lose. The first PTS exchange (which was cobbled together and no longer exists) got robbed of it's customer's bitcoin holdings.
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Quote from: kalori on January 10, 2014, 01:03:33 PM
Hello,
   I am researching possible options to invest in PTS at competitive exchange rates and thought I would share my progress with the community, ask a question (or two :).

Unfortunately all the exchanges I have identified that handle PTS leave a lot to be desired. In some cases there are some very serious issues currently being reported en-mass.  Please note that I did this research on Friday January 10, 2014 so if you have used any of the below exchanges before this date without problems, any "it worked for me" replies should take the date into account. Exchanges that have had been working before look like they are currently in trouble so your past experience may not be valid anymore. 

In order of PTS volumes traded since November:

   bter.com :
      Serious issues being alleged upto today Jan 10 2014: failed, frozen and missing deposit and withdrawals allegedly stretching back to early December being reported on various forums/threads.
      No support being widely reported people appear to be very worried about their holdings at this exchange.
         https://startpage.com/do/search?q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+bter.com&lui=english
         http://www.reddit.com/domain/bter.com/

   cryptsy.com :
      Alleged fraud investigation pending in Florida threatens whole site being imminently frozen.
      Also failed, frozen and missing deposit and withdrawals.
      Cryptsy support is reporting that it is currently overwhelmed.
         https://startpage.com/do/search?q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+cryptsy&lui=english
         https://startpage.com/do/search?q=cryptsy+site%3Areddit.com&lui=english

   coins-e :
      Very illiquid almost rules this exchange out. Volume compared to bter almost non-existent.                        
      Not very many other problems being reported compared to the above two exchanges (maybe because no significant numbers of people really use it?).
         https://startpage.com/do/search?q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+coins-e&lui=english
   
Alternatives:
   btc38.com : Chinese only rules this out for me.
   BuyPTS.com : Appears to have a 3-4x premium or more (today 0.055 BTC/PTS vs 0.0178 BTC/PTS)
   Ripple Interchange xrpio.com : Can´t check volume/bids/asks (at least without a funded ripple account - Not sure never used Ripple?).

Other notes: Interesting website for exchange comparisons might be of use to others: http://www.bitcompare.tk/

Question(s):
   Are there any competitive/liquid exchanges or trading methods for PTS?

I've been happy with Cryptsy. I move BTC in, make the trade and then move my PTS out to my wallet. It's pretty easy and so far has been reliable. I've made 5 trades with no issue.
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CryptoN8

#42
I used bter.com on 12/16/13 and 1/3/2014. I was able to deposit BTC and buy PTS, it did take a couple hours for my confirmations, but I was able to complete my transactions. I'm not saying that they are not having issues, just that it worked for me on those dates. I'm always sketchy about using Exchanges, and always take the get in get out as quickly as possible approach. Never leave a balance has been my SOP.

fuckingegg


kalori

Hello,
   I am researching possible options to invest in PTS at competitive exchange rates and thought I would share my progress with the community, ask a question (or two :).

Unfortunately all the exchanges I have identified that handle PTS leave a lot to be desired. In some cases there are some very serious issues currently being reported en-mass.  Please note that I did this research on Friday January 10, 2014 so if you have used any of the below exchanges before this date without problems, any "it worked for me" replies should take the date into account. Exchanges that have had been working before look like they are currently in trouble so your past experience may not be valid anymore. 

In order of PTS volumes traded since November:

   bter.com :
      Serious issues being alleged upto today Jan 10 2014: failed, frozen and missing deposit and withdrawals allegedly stretching back to early December being reported on various forums/threads.
      No support being widely reported people appear to be very worried about their holdings at this exchange.
         https://startpage.com/do/search?q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+bter.com&lui=english
         http://www.reddit.com/domain/bter.com/

   cryptsy.com :
      Alleged fraud investigation pending in Florida threatens whole site being imminently frozen.
      Also failed, frozen and missing deposit and withdrawals.
      Cryptsy support is reporting that it is currently overwhelmed.
         https://startpage.com/do/search?q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+cryptsy&lui=english
         https://startpage.com/do/search?q=cryptsy+site%3Areddit.com&lui=english

   coins-e :
      Very illiquid almost rules this exchange out. Volume compared to bter almost non-existent.                        
      Not very many other problems being reported compared to the above two exchanges (maybe because no significant numbers of people really use it?).
         https://startpage.com/do/search?q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+coins-e&lui=english
   
Alternatives:
   btc38.com : Chinese only rules this out for me.
   BuyPTS.com : Appears to have a 3-4x premium or more (today 0.055 BTC/PTS vs 0.0178 BTC/PTS)
   Ripple Interchange xrpio.com : Can´t check volume/bids/asks (at least without a funded ripple account - Not sure never used Ripple?).

Other notes: Interesting website for exchange comparisons might be of use to others: http://www.bitcompare.tk/

Question(s):
   Are there any competitive/liquid exchanges or trading methods for PTS?
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santaclause102

#39
The google translator German is horrible!! Better keep it in English for the German audience. The people that would buy PTS speak enough English to get it... Its seems super cheap and like collecting money for a ponzi this way! Its a grammatical disaster and you don't really get what PTS/i3 is about...
Haha just realized that are some dutch parts as well :)

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cass

Quote from: donschoe on December 10, 2013, 10:30:07 AM
Quote from: sktvlink on December 02, 2013, 05:49:26 AM
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3.3 LTC per PTS? Can you sell my PTS for me please!!!

WTS PTS @ 3.2 LTC ;D

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Quote from: sktvlink on December 02, 2013, 05:49:26 AM
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3.3 LTC per PTS? Can you sell my PTS for me please!!!

WTS PTS @ 3.2 LTC ;D

arubi

Quote from: HackFisher on December 05, 2013, 04:59:22 AM

On English page, it need 0.07BTC/PTS, but on Chinese language page, it need 0.11BTC/PTS, hmm.... fill not good, I don't know it have such advantage to learn English.
BTW, the design and page are beautiful, nice work.

To Chinese here: 国人真的是人傻钱多吗 :D ?

Quote from: sktvlink on December 05, 2013, 05:09:54 AM
Lulz,这算是价格歧视吧...

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Very sorry about this mistake.
Please, you can be sure that if you would have ordered through the Chinese page, you would still pay 0.07.

I have changed the price to be the same on both versions.

Lain

Lulz,这算是价格歧视吧...

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HackFisher

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Quote from: sktvlink on December 02, 2013, 05:49:26 AM
Buypts.com

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On English page, it need 0.07BTC/PTS, but on Chinese language page, it need 0.11BTC/PTS, hmm.... fill not good, I don't know it have such advantage to learn English.
BTW, the design and page are beautiful, nice work.

To Chinese here: 国人真的是人傻钱多吗 :D ?
Anything said on these forums does not constitute an intent to create a legal obligation or contract between myself and anyone else.   These are merely my opinions and I reserve the right to change them at any time.

arubi

Quote from: Wild0wnes on December 02, 2013, 06:24:53 AM


Quote from: sktvlink on December 02, 2013, 05:49:26 AM
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Fantastic looking site!
I wish you well and hope your protoshare valuation holds!  That would put the PTS market cap at over $100 million!   At this rate i'm not ruling it out!

Thanks for the compliments!
It's actually my website.

I really believe Protoshares are under-valued at today's prices. Did you know that over 50% of all Protoshares have been mined already?

deweller

Quote from: bytemaster on November 17, 2013, 06:57:49 PM
https://bter.com
http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=pts
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/119

If you know of others let us know.

I built a PTS ripple gateway at http://xrpio.com.  I would appreciate feedback from the community.

JackBean

Having problems at Cryptsy.  Put in an order in the middle of the bid/ask and canceled the order but did not get my BTC back.  Other users are having the same problem.  Can't trade with this site currently.

And bter.com is not secured!  This site looks suspicious to me.