I thought 0.4.17 fixed the short-matching bug?

[bytemaster]

It will restore to the GUI that came with your download 0.4.17

[biophil]

I think there's a new bug... It matches against a short if there's a tiny ask for it to partially match against first

Delightful.

[tonyk]

Does nobody else see the bid overlapping with the short wall?

I do not... what is the price for that bid?
now I do.

[toast]

I think there's a new bug... It matches against a short if there's a tiny ask for it to partially match against first

[biophil]

Does nobody else see the bid overlapping with the short wall?

[biophil]

None of this explains why my bids weren't matching the short wall.

agree! it does not.

Try again I have some bitBTC for sale right now.

My bid just went in above the short price, highest collateralization is 30,000. Apparently not matching.

13,495.28 will not cut it... try something >= 13,510
[edit] you are on 0.4.17 right?

But I don't want to match the ask, I want to match the short.

Yeah, 0.4.17.

the ask has a better price... so you will have to wait somebody to buy it first...

My GUI was (and is? this new update isn't terribly self-explanatory) showing the short wall at the top of the order book. My bid should have matched a short, as should the new bid someone entered for 1 bitBTC.

[toast]

File>Check for updates
is not working on win7/32bit...

Your bug report needs more details

[tonyk]

File>Check for updates
is not working on win7/32bit...

scratch that    working with like 1 min delay...

OK The pop up asked me to update to 0.4.14; selecte 'no' to make backup first.
File>Check for updates
no reaction...
restarted the client
File>Check for updates
no reaction...
1 or 2 min later it finally asked me to update

[tonyk]

None of this explains why my bids weren't matching the short wall.

agree! it does not.

Try again I have some bitBTC for sale right now.

My bid just went in above the short price, highest collateralization is 30,000. Apparently not matching.

13,495.28 will not cut it... try something >= 13,510
[edit] you are on 0.4.17 right?

But I don't want to match the ask, I want to match the short.

Yeah, 0.4.17.

the ask has a better price... so you will have to wait somebody to buy it first...

[biophil]

None of this explains why my bids weren't matching the short wall.

agree! it does not.

Try again I have some bitBTC for sale right now.

My bid just went in above the short price, highest collateralization is 30,000. Apparently not matching.

13,495.28 will not cut it... try something >= 13,510
[edit] you are on 0.4.17 right?

But I don't want to match the ask, I want to match the short.

Yeah, 0.4.17.

[tonyk]

None of this explains why my bids weren't matching the short wall.

agree! it does not.

Try again I have some bitBTC for sale right now.

My bid just went in above the short price, highest collateralization is 30,000. Apparently not matching.

13,495.28 will not cut it... try something >= 13,510
[edit] you are on 0.4.17 right?

[biophil]

None of this explains why my bids weren't matching the short wall.

agree! it does not.

Try again I have some bitBTC for sale right now.

My bid just went in above the short price, highest collateralization is 30,000. Apparently not matching.

[tonyk]

None of this explains why my bids weren't matching the short wall.

agree! it does not.

Try again I have some bitBTC for sale right now.

[biophil]

Hmm... What range are you talking about? Is it a range of valid collateralization? I wonder if that could be it. The top short has a collateral ratio of 20,000 BTSX/BitBTC, but 1.5x13,518 is greater than 20,000. So that would mean that every short in the order book is currently invalid until the price of BTC falls a little more.

I think this 20,000 BTSX/BitBTC is just the collateral that person trying to open a short position provides (i.e. does not include the proceeds of the bitBTC sell), partly because the sell price is unknown...

Is there a lower bound on the allowable collateral? so if the price is 13,333, could you short at anything less than 20,000?

@ 13,333 the min will be 13333 BTSX

Ah, because the sale proceeds are 13,333 and those are also held as collateral, so you have 200% collateral after the sale. Thanks.

None of this explains why my bids weren't matching the short wall.

[tonyk]

Hmm... What range are you talking about? Is it a range of valid collateralization? I wonder if that could be it. The top short has a collateral ratio of 20,000 BTSX/BitBTC, but 1.5x13,518 is greater than 20,000. So that would mean that every short in the order book is currently invalid until the price of BTC falls a little more.

I think this 20,000 BTSX/BitBTC is just the collateral that person trying to open a short position provides (i.e. does not include the proceeds of the bitBTC sell), partly because the sell price is unknown...

Is there a lower bound on the allowable collateral? so if the price is 13,333, could you short at anything less than 20,000?

@ 13,333 the min will be 13333 BTSX and you will be last in line... following others offering more than the min.

[biophil]

Hmm... What range are you talking about? Is it a range of valid collateralization? I wonder if that could be it. The top short has a collateral ratio of 20,000 BTSX/BitBTC, but 1.5x13,518 is greater than 20,000. So that would mean that every short in the order book is currently invalid until the price of BTC falls a little more.

I think this 20,000 BTSX/BitBTC is just the collateral that person trying to open a short position provides (i.e. does not include the proceeds of the bitBTC sell), partly because the sell price is unknown...

Is there a lower bound on the allowable collateral? so if the price is 13,333, could you short at anything less than 20,000?

[tonyk]

Hmm... What range are you talking about? Is it a range of valid collateralization? I wonder if that could be it. The top short has a collateral ratio of 20,000 BTSX/BitBTC, but 1.5x13,518 is greater than 20,000. So that would mean that every short in the order book is currently invalid until the price of BTC falls a little more.

I think this 20,000 BTSX/BitBTC is just the collateral that person trying to open a short position provides (i.e. does not include the proceeds of the bitBTC sell), partly because the sell price is unknown...

[biophil]

Hmm... What range are you talking about? Is it a range of valid collateralization? I wonder if that could be it. The top short has a collateral ratio of 20,000 BTSX/BitBTC, but 1.5x13,518 is greater than 20,000. So that would mean that every short in the order book is currently invalid until the price of BTC falls a little more.

[xeroc]

if the short is outside the range it becomes invalid .. thats why your order is not matched .. (imho)

[biophil]

In BitBTC market, I have a small bid in at 13,531.7999, and the short wall is at the top of the order book at 13,531.7997. Why is my bid not matching the shorts? And why is the short wall above the feed price of 13,518.9942?