Who let the DOGEs Out?

[jsidhu]

And now this...

https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/42td1h/democracy_counts_help_take_democracy_to_the_moon/

Supposidely he's reaaching out to Brian to talk about it based on https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/42td1h/democracy_counts_help_take_democracy_to_the_moon/czekrot

[lovejoy]

And now this...

https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/42td1h/democracy_counts_help_take_democracy_to_the_moon/

[Tuck Fheman]

the ultimate rage quitter 

[Empirical1.2]

Not sure if anyone in this thread mentioned the following news before. It could be the reason of DOGE rally.

http://forklog.net/dogecoin-integrates-in-ethereum-for-application-in-smart-contracts/

Yip it's fairtly straightforward but lets say it was because of free samples

Lessons learned

Utility, Utility, Utility.

In property it's location, location, location. With a currency the key value is utility.

A currency gains value whenever it is added to an exchange/payment processor/large retailer/Atms/Vending Machines etc.

This thread was originally created, because Doge was rising on the back of another utility addition imo.

GoCoin processes Bitcoin, Litecoin and Dogecoin and GoCoin is part of PayPal announcement.
So PayPal announcement is good for Dogecoin was my understanding

The free sample is not without it's place in marketing but large equity give aways are very price supressive.

Tightening the peg, adding Smartcoins to the Share/tipbot & lowering the TX fee to claim is about the best thing you can do if you are a big supporter of the free sample. This will allow BTS users to spread their product Smartcoins similar to how Doge gained traction.

Once this is place, Non Western Marketers/referrers* will also use the free sample technique but in a very calculated way - if they individually surmise the average return from that customer is greater than the cost of the sample. (Which is how it should be applied)

(*It's possible the low TX claim fee needed to make Smartcoins useful for tipping might discourage Western Marketers/referrers but I think this is OK.) 

[ffwong]

Not sure if anyone in this thread mentioned the following news before. It could be the reason of DOGE rally.

http://forklog.net/dogecoin-integrates-in-ethereum-for-application-in-smart-contracts/

BM, folks in telegram are discussing whether bitshares can do similar sidechain for altcoin or even BTC yesterday. Check out the telegram.

[chryspano]

Do you guys really believe that the dogecoin pump has anything to do with their... "community"? really?

[sudo]

users numbers！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！

http://redditmetrics.com/r/dogecoin 
Milestone   Date   Note
90K   Apr 11, 2015   /r/dogecoin hits 90K subscribers



http://redditmetrics.com/r/BitShares
Milestone   Date   Note
500   Sep 5, 2014   /r/BitShares hits 500 subscribers

[Tuck Fheman]

What does DOGE have that is driving it higher than Nxt?

A big strong positive and unified community.

And that's all it takes to make a generic bitcoin clone worth more than our entire splintered negative and frustrated community who complains weather the price of BTS rises or falls.

and generous too.

can we donate to a fund to give to DOGE/BTC/ETH holders yet or are we going to continue with the greed meme that has left us wondering why nobody loves us?

Seeing as how we spent 1 of the last 2 years sharedropping and merging shares to thousands of people across multiple crypto communities (PTS/AGS/DNS/VOTE/etc) with perfectly calibrated vesting schedules, I assume that we are getting pretty good at it.

Lets take up a collection and donate to the DOGE communiy


all in favor?!!!!

(crickets?)

[lulz]

This "Community" won't even accept most tokens from it's own chain!

This "Community" disparages anyone giving them most any token created from it's own chain!

It's just too much load on their precious (waiting for the next pumpt to cash out) wallets to receive free tokens of appreciation or tokens for teh lulz (oh teh horror).

This "Community" rarely donates to support anyone or anything that is beneficial to BitShares as a whole.

They will support efforts they perceive will be beneficial to their own personal financial gain in some way (i.e. helps them cash out at a higher price ... sooner).

And you're asking this "Community" to give tokens to another (real ... giving) Community in hopes it will bring them ... here?!??



You may have raised yourself from the dead, but good luck raising this "Community" from the dead.



[/lulz]

[Tuck Fheman]

I didn't bother putting the date back in, but you can find it mentioned several other places.

like here

[jsidhu]

They have a dev team believe it or not... after merged-mining was added (a good move in my books) it started to settle down price wise... although it's not any better than the other merged mined coins that offer true value.. but network effect is not to be overlooked.

[Ander]

price goes up more than 100% when I'm about to buy some... I feel frustrated.

If I may suggest, regarding announcements. If you think you will announce things by the first week of June, say you will do so in the last one or the first of July. Then do the announcement earlier than told. Once you have it ready, warn people it will be released in a week so no one will get caught off guard and then announce it. Everyone will be surprised and happy and you even did things first than "expected"

This would be a great plan.

But the Bitshares folks ave never heard of the planning fallacy, or of the phrase "underpromise and overdeliver".



On the other hand, I dont think this rally is actually based on the 'announcement'.  I think its related to the bear market in altcoins coming to an end.  Everything is rallying.

I didnt get as many as I wanted at .02x CNY either, but I'll be content with my extra 800k that I got there.

[Akado]

price goes up more than 100% when I'm about to buy some... I feel frustrated.

If I may suggest, regarding announcements. If you think you will announce things by the first week of June, say you will do so in the last one or the first of July. Then do the announcement earlier than told. Once you have it ready, warn people it will be released in a week so no one will get caught off guard and then announce it. Everyone will be surprised and happy and you even did things first than "expected"

[Ander]

What does DOGE have that is driving it higher than Nxt?

A good brand.

So...you're saying that all that growth from developing a good brand still lies ahead of us like an untapped gold vein?   

Yes.  Clearly Bitshares has way more potential than Doge.  Doge shows where you can get with a good brand and nothing else at all.  If you can develop the Bitshares brand so that people know about it, like it, and trust it, then Bitshares will do very well. 

[bubble789]

Thanks Stan for the clarification

[Stan]

So...you're saying that all that growth from developing a good brand still lies ahead of us like an untapped gold vein?   

I doubt that we are doing a good job establishing a good brand ( look at our current marketing and pr).

well, yes yes I know things will change "soon", before we know it. But hey Stan I read that Vikram has changed the summer pre-announcement post and removed the detail on the date. what's up with that?

My point was that developing a good brand is something we can still do, and therefore that type of growth is something we can still look forward to, independent of the other announcements in the various categories I mentioned in the NullStreet Newsletter.   If Doge can get to where it is on pure branding, then imagine what such branding could do for what we've got in the old ammo locker.

(Considering that there are considerably many more considerations that the market has yet to consider.)

As for Vikram, he didn't know that BM had authorized me to mention that date, so he was just doing his job preventing leaks.  I didn't bother putting the date back in, but you can find it mentioned several other places.