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In some cases (like mine) it got approved because there is currently no other proposal put forward by CNX.
E.g. if you turned Market Maker Incentivization into a worker proposal, I'd vote for it instead of the stealth proposal.

Why couldn't you vote for both?

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General Discussion / Re: New features on CryptoFresh
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:04:03 pm »
May I suggest you represent voting stake as "percent of active" vs "percent of shares".

Also I would be very interested in seeing a measure of total stake claimed in BTS 2... vs unclaimed stake from BTS 1 over time.

It looks like 20.3% of stake is voting and another 20 some percent is held in exchanges.

This is a more accurate assessment of shareholder attitude.

I personally know of people who have not yet moved their stake from 1.0 to 2.0 because of the lack of privacy.

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General Discussion / Re: New Stealth Transfer Worker ($1000)
« on: December 19, 2015, 08:57:26 pm »
Why not use bitusd ?   @onceuponatime
if you use bitUSD , our BTS system  can benefit from this deal

Just out of curiosity.....   The 45K or 50K that onceuponatime was willing to put up .....was that in the form of  Bitcoin,USD or BTS ?

Bank wire transfer of US dollars.

first - I don't have 45,000 bitUSD, and I don;t have enough BTS to buy bitUSD (I invested a couple of million BTS into MOONFUND to try and get competition and innovation going in the wallet area  - that is still locked up there).

second - Cryptonomex needs fiat USD to pay its ongoing corporate expenses in Virginia (office rent, supplies etc.). By me sending them fiat USD they do not need to sell BTS on the market and hence no downward pressure on our market cap.

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General Discussion / Re: New Stealth Transfer Worker ($1000)
« on: December 19, 2015, 05:36:31 am »
Just out of curiosity.....   The 45K or 50K that onceuponatime was willing to put up .....was that in the form of  Bitcoin,USD or BTS ?

Bank wire transfer of US dollars.

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They don't need a quantum computer to screw up bitshares. They just need to bribe the majority of witnesses. This wouldn't cost a lot.


+5% +5% +5%

Perhaps some people's principles aren't for sale as cheaply as yours?

Shareholders need to assess character as well as technical proficiency when  voting.

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General Discussion / Re: New Stealth Transfer Worker ($1000)
« on: December 17, 2015, 09:16:24 pm »
FYI, I am currently collecting proposals and have them written down in a github repository:
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0008.md  -- Privacy Mode
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0007.md  -- FBA
Those are still in draft mode @onceuponatime but I would like use them to represent the idea to shareholders to have them vote on the worker, if you agree

Thank you very much for this awesome organizational work!

As you said, it is still draft mode ( https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0008.md ) and I think  the "contract" section (among others)  needs to be further clarified by Cryptonomex and myself. I have been expecting a revised Worker Proposal draft from Cryptonomex.

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General Discussion / Re: New Stealth Transfer Worker ($1000)
« on: December 17, 2015, 09:05:12 pm »
I think that CNX would beat him to market by a long shot, and his technology, coming out later, would have to be better and/or less expensive to gain traction, right?

Is there a plan for promoting your FBA?

There are to be five members of the Maintenance Account with 3 of 5 signatory authority who can vote on spending funds from that account to promote the feature far and wide.

Additionally, it would be in the interest of purchasers of a STEALTH FBA to promote the feature (since they participate in the income stream from its use) and in their promotions also use their referral link for an additional lifetime referral income from those who sign up for an account under them.

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General Discussion / Re: New Stealth Transfer Worker ($1000)
« on: December 17, 2015, 04:18:12 am »
This thread just got real interesting; the first competitor to CNX capable of serious development.

Does this mean Anonymint & CNX are going to bid against each other for OnceUpon's $45K?

Is OnceUpon willing to consider Anonymint's bid, and is the timing an issue?

Anonymint, I hope you consider what bytemaster said about the FBA route here in the BitShares ecosystem being more lucrative than launching your own coin and all that entails.

My investment  purchase of software and its implementation would be from CNX because I have had years to evaluate the characters of the principals and trust them completely (as I have to because the technology is way over my head). If CNX wants to subcontract the work to Anonymint, or hire him, that is their business.

That makes perfect sense. So even IF anonymint were to submit a worker proposal and try to compete with CNX, you wouldn't be interested in such an arrangement. I get it, I do see the wisdom in that.

I'm not saying that is anonymint's intention, I just saw it as a possibility.

Puppies is also right, anonymint may be capable of coding such an important and complex feature, but his skills in DPoS / BitShares are more of an unknown. At this stage of BitShares (im)maturity there is added risk in getting a 3rd party involved, so a CNX code review / audit would be prudent.

That would be great if he submitted a worker proposal to implement a competing technology from CNX's on our blockchain.. I might even buy some of his FBA on the DEX if he does to hedge my bet. But I think that CNX would beat him to market by a long shot, and his technology, coming out later, would have to be better and/or less expensive to gain traction, right?

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Beyond Bitcoin [closed] / Re: Fridays Mumble
« on: December 17, 2015, 04:01:33 am »
was there a mumble today?

Today is Wednesday, not Friday. What Mumble were you expecting?

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General Discussion / Re: New Stealth Transfer Worker ($1000)
« on: December 17, 2015, 02:46:28 am »
This thread just got real interesting; the first competitor to CNX capable of serious development.

Does this mean Anonymint & CNX are going to bid against each other for OnceUpon's $45K?

Is OnceUpon willing to consider Anonymint's bid, and is the timing an issue?

Anonymint, I hope you consider what bytemaster said about the FBA route here in the BitShares ecosystem being more lucrative than launching your own coin and all that entails.

My investment  purchase of software and its implementation would be from CNX because I have had years to evaluate the characters of the principals and trust them completely (as I have to because the technology is way over my head). If CNX wants to subcontract the work to Anonymint, or hire him, that is their business.

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6.   The Initialization Package shall modify the blockchain to make the Privacy Mode feature available to users.
7. The Initialization Package shall make provision for the creation of generic Fee Based Assets (FBA) and set the fee for such
Could you elaborate on the "Initialization Package" and the statement above?

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8.   A GUI shall be provided in the OpenLedger and Light wallets to allow ordinary users to easily use the Privacy Mode features.
If a GUI is to be developed for OpenLedger specifically, why wouldn't you ask
for fund from them as well? Either they take part in the funding, or you should
replace OpenLedger with "web wallet". In the end, OL is free to use the feature
implemented, but I don't see why they should be part of the contract between YOU
and CNX!

Cheers

@Stan

This wording is from Stan.  Perhaps he can give an elaboration of his intention.

Which wording was mine?  (I hardly ever say "cheers".)

The bolded part above that Xeroc is quoting. 

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6.   The Initialization Package shall modify the blockchain to make the Privacy Mode feature available to users.
7. The Initialization Package shall make provision for the creation of generic Fee Based Assets (FBA) and set the fee for such
Could you elaborate on the "Initialization Package" and the statement above?

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8.   A GUI shall be provided in the OpenLedger and Light wallets to allow ordinary users to easily use the Privacy Mode features.
If a GUI is to be developed for OpenLedger specifically, why wouldn't you ask
for fund from them as well? Either they take part in the funding, or you should
replace OpenLedger with "web wallet". In the end, OL is free to use the feature
implemented, but I don't see why they should be part of the contract between YOU
and CNX!

Cheers

@Stan

This wording is from Stan.  Perhaps he can give an elaboration of his intention.

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Referral program will bring in lots of users with little capital (not a big rise in market cap).

Privacy Mode will bring in fewer users with a lot more capital (big rise in market cap).

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General Discussion / Re: Mutual Aid Societies
« on: December 15, 2015, 02:03:15 am »
If this will help cover any residual risk that I might bear of having my assets seized for being involved in a STEALTH asset, then I would be willing to go in for $100/month.

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It would be better, in my opinion, to make more explicit a set of Terms of Service in the Registration Agreement. These could be voted on by the Community. And then strictly enforced.

The function of a Moderator would be to enforce those Terms of Service in a straightforward way. The moderator should not have the option to make up his own rules, but simply enforce those voted on by the Community.

Also, the function of Moderator could be time limited, 6 months or a year (or maybe only one month, so the position is less onerous and could be undertaken by many trusted Community members in rotation).

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