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General Discussion / Re: Mutual Aid Societies
« on: December 18, 2015, 05:16:38 pm »
I like it, it's a very simple and smart model. All it would take to build an app like this is a few new operations in the core and a nice UI, right? I bet the team could build a basic working prototype over a single weekend.. :)

Interesting idea that contributions are limited to something like $100.. it ensures that various "causes" have a wide approval and it helps prevent gaming the system while being engaged on a more regular basis. If someone had $50,000 in unjust legal fees, 500 members could provide full aid.

I'd be willing to pay at least $30-$60 a month.. or quite a bit more if it could truly replace or supplant traditional forms of insurance.

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General Discussion / Re: New Stealth Transfer Worker ($1000)
« on: December 18, 2015, 04:57:42 pm »
I'm a little late to this discussion, but I've been thinking it over and have some questions..

Why do we need stealth when you can just create and claim into an anonymous account?
Stealth funds need to go back into a visible account to be tradeable anyway.
And the people who really want to spy you have *plenty* of other ways to find out what you're doing.

This has a higher priority than say, MAKER, only because the cash is on the table, right? If we put up more bids/depth on the MAKER market than the STEALTH market, would that be enough for CNX to reconsider priorities? If MAKER had just 13M BTS in bids, that's $45k right there.

Finally, on an ideological note: we've never seen a true global free market, and we have no idea where it will lead society. It could be really good, it could be really bad. I posit that stealth is only desirable because of short-term/reactionary fear. And when people act out of fear they make bad (I mean truly horrible) decisions.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker Proposal] Documentation/Technical Support/Python Development
« on: December 18, 2015, 04:24:05 pm »
xeroc's contributions are very valuable.. just off the top of my head: price feed scripts, documentation, whitepapers, python library,  general & technical support, even security testing apparently ;). All of these things are important *now*. He is also clear-headed and knows how to prioritize in this chaotic world of crypto.

Quote from: maqifrnswa on December 17, 2015, 06:07:41 pm
2) We need more non-cryptonomex workers supported, and they should be paid competitively. If bitshares wants to be a serious business, xerox is doing real and very important work insanely cheap. He's low risk, and proven member of the team. If bitshares "can't afford" to pay him, that's a major failure of the system.

+5%

One thing caught me off guard.. svk is now fully independent from CNX and his worker has a modest daily pay of 19k BTS. I don't think he specified an hourly rate, but as far as I can tell he's putting in at least 20 hours a week. So I guess my question is, are you still working for CNX in some capacity? And how does one determine (in a general sense) if a task should be paid for by CNX vs. BTS?

That aside.. Dr. Xeroc's services are easily worth 37.50€/h, especially considering his long history of volunteer work. If we could clone him, I'd hire his clone at that rate too.  :D

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General Discussion / Re: BTSwolf.com General Thread
« on: December 17, 2015, 04:43:26 am »
Everything looks correct! Nice job

Btw, have you seen this one? https://bitshares.org/technology/stakeholder-approved-project-funding/

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General Discussion / Re: Cryptofresh Block Explorer + MUSE now available
« on: December 16, 2015, 04:16:38 pm »
Quote from: kenCode on December 16, 2015, 09:52:10 am
Shouldn't BRICS be listed as a Smartcoin (it's null-account issued)?

I don't think so, it's not a market-pegged asset.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: GUI development worker - svk
« on: December 16, 2015, 05:07:31 am »
Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on December 16, 2015, 03:14:32 am
This should be a no brainer for the community.  +5%

Definitely... awesome work, svk.. glad to see you taking this route!

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General Discussion / Re: Cryptofresh Block Explorer + MUSE now available
« on: December 16, 2015, 05:01:14 am »
Quote from: Shentist on December 15, 2015, 07:56:18 pm
Quote from: roadscape on December 15, 2015, 07:39:45 pm
Quote from: kenCode on December 15, 2015, 01:53:11 pm
Today I keep getting this error while surfing cryptofresh.com:
 
Oops, an error occured.
 
Also, I need some statistics.
How many registered accounts are there now?
 
Thanx :)

Fixed! We're up to 99,223 accounts, judging by the most recently registered account's id

if you look on the asset page you will find 2624 accounts holding BTS, so i assume most accounts are from BTS 1?

Accounts
 - at genesis: 91,595
 - since genesis: 7,545
 - with a non-zero BTS balance (including orders): 2,869

Quote from: Shentist on December 15, 2015, 07:57:45 pm
TCNY is listed as a UIA - but it is a private bitasset.

it shows not the feed producer, so maybe you need to change something on the asset page.

Aah.. interesting, I'll look into this

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General Discussion / Re: Cryptofresh Block Explorer + MUSE now available
« on: December 15, 2015, 07:39:45 pm »
Quote from: kenCode on December 15, 2015, 01:53:11 pm
Today I keep getting this error while surfing cryptofresh.com:
 
Oops, an error occured.
 
Also, I need some statistics.
How many registered accounts are there now?
 
Thanx :)

Fixed! We're up to 99,223 accounts, judging by the most recently registered account's id

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General Discussion / Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« on: December 15, 2015, 07:21:53 pm »
Nice!! This is a valuable service and excellent hint of graphene's possibilities. This is the tip of the iceberg.

Your beta strategy is great and I'm glad you moved forward without waiting for others.. very inspiring!

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Technical Support / Re: witness_node completely froze overnight
« on: December 15, 2015, 12:32:08 am »
Quote from: merivercap on December 14, 2015, 09:21:20 pm
I was just trying to start up a full node with some help, but one time it froze at block 587,634.  The rest of the time it wouldn't get past the first block so I'm stuck right now.   Does my problem have anything to do with this issue or is it probably something else?

Sounds like a separate issue... mine froze well after resync, and yours froze during.

Which block are you stuck on now?

What command are you using to launch the witness?

How much free space (disk/mem) do you have?

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Muse/SoundDAC / Re: Creative people! BRANDING FUN TIME
« on: December 14, 2015, 06:20:44 pm »
I vote SPARKS

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Technical Support / Re: witness_node completely froze overnight
« on: December 14, 2015, 06:16:17 pm »
Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on December 14, 2015, 01:35:38 pm
This has happened to two other witnesses and a bug report was submitted.

It is unclear what is causing it so far. The same thing has caused cryptofresh to stop loading twice in the last few days.

Correction: only once due to this mysterious hang

The other time was a HD full of log files..

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Technical Support / Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« on: December 14, 2015, 06:09:51 pm »
Quote from: jakub on December 12, 2015, 01:52:10 pm
Quote from: roadscape on December 09, 2015, 07:56:14 pm
Quote from: jakub on December 02, 2015, 04:52:44 pm
We've had this nice thread: Payment business: comparison between Bitshares and it's competitors.
Does anyone remember a forum thread offering a similar comparison but regrading the exchange business?

Was it a comparison of DEX vs. centralized exchanges?
Yes, I'm looking the thread where this comparison was made.
Does anyone have a link to this thread or remember who started it?

No idea, any of these?
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=17105.0
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7446.0
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20023.0.html
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=16711.0

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General Discussion / Re: BTSwolf.com General Thread
« on: December 14, 2015, 06:02:23 pm »
Again, mostly accurate except for a few things:

 - Worker pay comes from reserve fund, not proposals
 - Shareholders do not vote for proposals, only committee members, although voters can vote out a committee member before or during the proposal review period to "override" their vote
 - Seems to confuse "worker proposals" and "change proposals"

Voters/proxy-voters vote on:
 - Committee
 - Witnesses
 - Workers

Committee can propose ANY transaction:
 - Change the fee schedule
 - Withdraw accumulated fees from MPA's
 - Pay me $1M from the reserve pool
 - Create a new MPA
 - Place market orders

Only the committee members can vote for these proposed transactions, but voters have "veto" power by being able to vote out a committee member before the end of the review period to nullify their vote.

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General Discussion / Re: Free App possible?
« on: December 14, 2015, 05:50:37 pm »
Quote from: luckybit on December 14, 2015, 05:40:59 am
Quote from: roadscape on December 11, 2015, 04:55:04 pm
The primary ways to monetize/support a social network:

1. ads (sponsors)
2. paid features / subscriptions
3. selling users' data
4. donations

You forgot about the attention economy? You simply let advertisers buy the attention directly from the users. Synereo has a good business model, as does GetGems.

You can't use the ad model on decentralized platforms without violating people's intellectual property rights, specifically their attention is their property.

So the way to monetize it is to build enough of a network effect that advertisers will want to access the attention of the users, then pay the users in your UIA when they watch ads. Pre-allocate the UIA to pay for your own development.

These are good points, but imo still fall into "ads" category. There's definitely a lot of room for creativity there... for example, paying users to re-post advertisements, allowing users to promote their own posts, etc.

When it comes paying users to watch or click ads, it's very hard to defend against fraud. Google has been in an uphill battle against click fraud botnets for years. It's doable but gets complex when you account for all the ways to game such a system.

I don't think anyone has tried to create an open-source ad-free social network driven by micropayments, have they? That's something I'd like to see..

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