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Title: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: mf-tzo on December 17, 2015, 12:50:57 pm
"The Open Ledger Project, as is the name of this collaboration, is the brainchild of IBM"

http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/12/17/ibm-jpmorgan-and-others-join-forces-to-create-their-own-blockchain/

@ccedk confusions will begin between your original openledger  and open ledger project from IBM..
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: xeroc on December 17, 2015, 12:53:32 pm
Free exposure .. lol :D
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: Akado on December 17, 2015, 01:04:51 pm
currently if you search for "open ledger" which is what people will search more I guess, it shows OpenLedger related results, only when you specifically type "projet" will the IBM thing appear. Guess this could change with time but yeah, like xeroc said, free exposure for OL.
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: iHashFury on December 17, 2015, 01:38:31 pm
"Milk it (for all its worth)" - Free PR

https://twitter.com/By24seven/status/677462123711213568 (https://twitter.com/By24seven/status/677462123711213568)
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: Riverhead on December 17, 2015, 02:01:05 pm

Fantastic. Anyone have some web analytics on the traffic to OpenLedger?
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: giant middle finger on December 17, 2015, 02:08:39 pm
How does the saying go:

first they laugh at you, then they steal your name and add a space, then you.... uh...

Open Ledger vs. openledger

Ronny should issue a UIA where the proceeds go toward legal fees to sue IBM, and the rest for whatever (publicity)

I'd buy some just to read the articles:

"IBM,JPM, Cisco, and Wells Fargo sued for stealing IP"

If they pay to buy the name off us, then we split it up into however many UIA shares are issued
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: Stan on December 17, 2015, 02:13:14 pm
So, every news story on this just needs to get commented with a link to openledger.info.

Be creative.  Just say:  "Nice web site at openledger.info"  or something.

That helps establish prior existence everywhere.

:)


Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: allseeinguy on December 17, 2015, 02:25:14 pm
So, every news story on this just needs to get commented with a link to openledger.info.

Be creative.  Just say:  "Nice web site at openledger.info"  or something.

That helps establish prior existence everywhere.

:)

I already have.. I dare say the coindesk mods will likely remove it!
How do get these Brownies by the way? I've promoted BTS quite a lot through Disqus!

Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: iHashFury on December 17, 2015, 02:43:39 pm

Fantastic. Anyone have some web analytics on the traffic to OpenLedger?

https://bitly.com/1Q5OOMP+ (https://bitly.com/1Q5OOMP+) is the bitly info on the link I use to promote BitShares and OpenLedger.
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: iHashFury on December 17, 2015, 05:41:31 pm
Up vote please

http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks/#comment-2414488432 (http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks/#comment-2414488432)
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: iHashFury on December 17, 2015, 06:45:02 pm
Up vote please

http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks/#comment-2414488432 (http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks/#comment-2414488432)

Mod stpped my link so up-votes and comment here please https://t.co/IepAVCs6q9
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: Pheonike on December 17, 2015, 06:48:02 pm
So, every news story on this just needs to get commented with a link to openledger.info.

Be creative.  Just say:  "Nice web site at openledger.info"  or something.

That helps establish prior existence everywhere.

:)

Then they come to the OL site and just see a login that doesn't explain anything about what it is or what it does. People really want to see a login prompt when they visit a site for the first time.  :'(
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: openledger on December 17, 2015, 07:01:15 pm
So, every news story on this just needs to get commented with a link to openledger.info.

Be creative.  Just say:  "Nice web site at openledger.info"  or something.

That helps establish prior existence everywhere.

:)

Then they come to the OL site and just see a login that doesn't explain anything about what it is or what it does. People really want to see a login prompt when they visit a site for the first time.  :'(

I guess you have never been visiting www.openledger.info then, there is a reason why this is the landing page welcoming all to the OpenLedger world. Go have a look, you have already, shame on you :) ;)
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: openledger on December 17, 2015, 07:06:03 pm
OpenLedger.info  to host the #IBM open source #blockchain on the #OpenLedger project? @coindesk http://coinde.sk/1Qu2937 #OBITS

http://OpenLedger.info  to host the #IBM open source #blockchain? Why else Call it #OpenLedger project? @coindesk http://coinde.sk/1Qu2937

http://OpenLedger.info  a great host for #IBM open source #blockchain.  tnx @coindesk  http://coinde.sk/1Qu2937  #fintech ##CCEDK #BTS #OBITS

#Open invitation to #Cisco, #IBM, #Intel, #LSE, and #JPM to join #OpenLedger, a #fintech #DEX of #SmartCoins #OBITS http://www.wired.com/2015/12/big-tech-joins-big-banks-to-create-alternative-to-bitcoins-blockchain/ …

#OpenLedger.info, a cold #buffet of #Smart features to consume, for the world to use tnx @WIRED http://www.wired.com/2015/12/big-tech-joins-big-banks-to-create-alternative-to-bitcoins-blockchain/ … #OpenLedger #OBITS

#OpenLedger.info, a hot #buffet of #Smart features to consume, for the world to use tnx @WIRED http://www.wired.com/2015/12/big-tech-joins-big-banks-to-create-alternative-to-bitcoins-blockchain/ … #OpenLedger #OBITS
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: Pheonike on December 17, 2015, 07:32:19 pm
Oh, I forgot about the website, been going to the exchange for so long.
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: openledger on December 17, 2015, 07:55:44 pm
Oh, I forgot about the website, been going to the exchange for so long.

It's ok, but do me a favour and share the link with whomever you like to know about OpenLedger, I am even there taking online calls in the daytime 18 of 24 hours.

And the link could of course be like this:

https://openledger.info/?r=pheonike

Just think of me when you are starting to make money off the referrals from the time you shared with everyone the news about OpenLedger and its landing page. :) ;)
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: fuzzy on December 17, 2015, 08:08:19 pm
So, every news story on this just needs to get commented with a link to openledger.info.

Be creative.  Just say:  "Nice web site at openledger.info"  or something.

That helps establish prior existence everywhere.

:)

great idea to use as a community quest that pays out in bitshares and other sponsored/donated tokens. 

"For every post you write and link to as proof we will give you 500 bts, 200 Brownies, 300 Obits and.....(fill in the blank).
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: tonyk on December 17, 2015, 08:48:52 pm
So, every news story on this just needs to get commented with a link to openledger.info.

Be creative.  Just say:  "Nice web site at openledger.info"  or something.

That helps establish prior existence everywhere.

:)



great idea to use as a community quest that pays out in bitshares and other sponsored/donated tokens. 

"For every post you write and link to as proof we will give you 500 bts, 200 Brownies, 300 Obits and.....(fill in the blank).


@Stan, @fuzzy @anyone in this thread...

You guys behave like OL is bitshares... should I say they are not quite the same, very much the opposite is true.

Let's look at the facts.

- The Obits offering is sketchy, to say the least. Profit sharing is fine, details are gold [severely lacking details in this case].  How about anwering some of those question, instead of the never arriving into reality card:
What will happen if not all Obits are sold? What percent of the income will go to the one actually sold? What will happen to the unsold ones?

-basic explanation why the Obits sells are needed in the firs place would be also good... but no one cares to mention why they need 1 mil or so USD, and/ or what they will do with that cash

- Proceed of obits sells are used to simply dump BTS on the exchanges. It might be unavoidable evil if it was clear what the money are needed for, but OL hates explaining facts of life (great words for the departed or the one yet to come, is their strength, it seems)

-If the above is not bad enough, instead of efforts to improve in someway its core business (exchange on the bts chain), the money are used to buy all kind of unrelated and semi-related businesses (casinos, advertising networks, tipping bots etc.)

- The way this 'exchange' is run is also a big suspect... I often think the guy was indeed journalist responsible for the obits section of some newspaper... great media contact and total lack of idea what he is doing on the exchange side (aka core business). What I mean? well, I semi get that bitAssets are a total screw up in their mind so they rather not touch them but run their own UIAs -OPENBTCs and the like... but even those IOUs are totally totally ridiculously done.... you send your btc and you get some OpenBTC... then you have to sell them for enormous premium to get into BTS...things get even more crazy if you want to exit the system... Currently, OL do not care to offer their OPENBTC  for anything close to market rate... actually they do not care to offer them AT all for people wanting to take their btc out...some random guy is left to do that for them...and he is asking for 160,000 BTS/BTC with a market rate in the 125,000 range...


So, let's get some money to everyone promoting the above nonsense, shell we?
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: BitShares News on December 17, 2015, 10:31:59 pm
http://www.wired.com/2015/12/big-tech-joins-big-banks-to-create-alternative-to-bitcoins-blockchain/#comment-2414662278
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: yvv on December 17, 2015, 11:42:34 pm
If people who are looking for information about open ledger project by Linux Foundation will see shrill references to openledger.info and obits everywhere, they will be just pissed off.
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: ebit on December 18, 2015, 12:23:16 am
 :D
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: CLains on December 18, 2015, 12:46:47 am
OpenLedger.info  to host the #IBM open source #blockchain on the #OpenLedger project? @coindesk http://coinde.sk/1Qu2937 #OBITS

http://OpenLedger.info  to host the #IBM open source #blockchain? Why else Call it #OpenLedger project? @coindesk http://coinde.sk/1Qu2937

http://OpenLedger.info  a great host for #IBM open source #blockchain.  tnx @coindesk  http://coinde.sk/1Qu2937  #fintech ##CCEDK #BTS #OBITS

#Open invitation to #Cisco, #IBM, #Intel, #LSE, and #JPM to join #OpenLedger, a #fintech #DEX of #SmartCoins #OBITS http://www.wired.com/2015/12/big-tech-joins-big-banks-to-create-alternative-to-bitcoins-blockchain/ …

#OpenLedger.info, a cold #buffet of #Smart features to consume, for the world to use tnx @WIRED http://www.wired.com/2015/12/big-tech-joins-big-banks-to-create-alternative-to-bitcoins-blockchain/ … #OpenLedger #OBITS

#OpenLedger.info, a hot #buffet of #Smart features to consume, for the world to use tnx @WIRED http://www.wired.com/2015/12/big-tech-joins-big-banks-to-create-alternative-to-bitcoins-blockchain/ … #OpenLedger #OBITS

Hahaha! Go Ronny, Go! :D
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: konelectric on December 18, 2015, 12:48:32 am
Up vote please

http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks/#comment-2414488432 (http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks/#comment-2414488432)

Mod stpped my link so up-votes and comment here please https://t.co/IepAVCs6q9
Done.
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: bitacer on December 18, 2015, 08:20:12 am
I'd say its just the right time to rename BitShares as openledger, this is a great publicity opportunity , we should not miss one. I hope Ronny has the trademark registered.
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: iHashFury on December 18, 2015, 09:23:01 am
Thanks for the up-votes - coindesk also allowed the link to openledger.info (https://openledger.info/)  :)

Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: testz on February 17, 2016, 04:28:34 am
IBM Creates Open-Source Blockchain With Linux and Big Banks - CoinDesk
http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks

Source codes and docs here: https://github.com/openblockchain/obc-docs/blob/master/biz/usecases.md
Looks interesting, support Golang for contracts, JavaScript support planed for 2016.

@bytemaster @xeroc
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: tbone on February 17, 2016, 04:59:05 am
Looks like they gave up on the OpenLedger name and went with Hyperledger instead.  Don't mess with Bitshares/OpenLedger!
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: Akado on February 17, 2016, 09:18:41 am
Looks like they gave up on the OpenLedger name and went with Hyperledger instead.  Don't mess with Bitshares/OpenLedger!

As long as it contains ledger in the name to sound cool
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: btswolf on February 17, 2016, 01:29:35 pm
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The current performance goal for OBC is to achieve 100,000 transactions per second in a standard production environment of approximately 15 validating nodes running in close proximity.
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The initial OBC release package will offer three consensus implementations for users to select from: 1) No-op (consensus ignored); 2) Classic PBFT; and 3) SIEVE (an enhanced version of classic PBFT).
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Does OBC have native currency?
No. However, if you really need a native currency for your chain network, you can develop your own native currency with chaincode.
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This software is made available under the Apache License Version 2.0.
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: mf-tzo on February 17, 2016, 02:08:42 pm
Can we use bitshares dex to trade the IBM stock as a derivative of the real IBM stock? Something like what DACx was doing..and do we know why they stopped doing it? Or can we create a market pegged asset with feed for IBM stocks?

If that was possible I would consider to take that bet since in the end of the day it will be centralized blockchains (IBM, etc..) vs. decentralized blockchains and startups. So it would be a hedging.. :)
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: abit on February 17, 2016, 08:09:25 pm
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The current performance goal for OBC is to achieve 100,000 transactions per second in a standard production environment of approximately 15 validating nodes running in close proximity.
Quote
The initial OBC release package will offer three consensus implementations for users to select from: 1) No-op (consensus ignored); 2) Classic PBFT; and 3) SIEVE (an enhanced version of classic PBFT).
Quote
Does OBC have native currency?
No. However, if you really need a native currency for your chain network, you can develop your own native currency with chaincode.
Quote
This software is made available under the Apache License Version 2.0.
Looks like a strong competitor to Graphene toolkit if CNX wants to push Graphene to potential private chain owners.
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: testz on February 26, 2016, 03:29:17 pm
@bytemaster Link for IBM Hyperledger work https://github.com/openblockchain
Please make quick look on it.

As example https://github.com/IBM-Blockchain/marbles-chaincode
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XV6U3kgZ31vZOz2nBLGe3vJgoLTnmOwv5qf3wo4lI68/edit
Title: Re: Open Ledger by...IBM
Post by: xeroc on February 26, 2016, 03:40:44 pm
I am already actively in talks with IBM and the hyperledger project .. the IBM proposal is the best that I have seen so far .. but the whole hyperledger initiative is still in its early stages ..