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General Discussion / Re: Paging the great satan Larimer
« on: July 24, 2016, 12:27:07 pm »
Didn't have a Steem account yet so couldn't bother Larimer with stuff like my original post.  I was honestly repulsed by the content being upvoted there so I put off creating an account.  I decided to make one and do Bitcoin vs Silver market analysis and see what happens:

https://steemit.com/money/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-vol-1-it-s-time-to-back-up-the-truck-for-silver

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General Discussion / Re: Paging the great satan Larimer
« on: July 22, 2016, 12:10:32 am »
coins shouldn't be stores of value to the first couple hundred nerds that figured out how to get their hands on them.

Isn't that exactly how Steem functions?  i.e.  Smooth becoming an instant millionaire

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General Discussion / Re: Paging the great satan Larimer
« on: July 21, 2016, 12:45:01 am »
2. For economic reasons, miners spend less money on mining than they can earn by producing blocks. You propose to reward miners with TX fees, but TX fees are very low in all crypto coins. This means the global hash rate will be very low in your chain, which means a determined attacker can easily take control (i. e. >50% of the block producers).

Well, this is the same system as Bitcoin, so that would be more of a you don't think Bitcoin will work complaint.
Have top alt coin market caps been increasing or decreasing relative to the BTC cap?

The trend is already apparent.

Altcoins are a prisoner's dilemma and the success of altcoins, as in posing an actual threat to BTC, would likely just make them all die together:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398586.0

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General Discussion / Re: Paging the great satan Larimer
« on: July 19, 2016, 11:20:34 pm »
2. For economic reasons, miners spend less money on mining than they can earn by producing blocks. You propose to reward miners with TX fees, but TX fees are very low in all crypto coins. This means the global hash rate will be very low in your chain, which means a determined attacker can easily take control (i. e. >50% of the block producers).

Well, this is the same system as Bitcoin, so that would be more of a you don't think Bitcoin will work complaint.

3. By using a separate token for mining and buying into the top block producers you run into the nothing-at-stake problem, or a variant of it. An attacker can mine these tokens over a long time, then spend all of them at once, in order to take over the chain (i. e. buy >50% of the block producer slots).

Yea, I thought about this problem already.  What I posted was a preliminary idea on how to get a system like this to work.  The base layer tokens would just follow the longest chain rule and probably need to have an expiration date after a certain number of blocks deep.  A reverse confirmation system if you will.

Exactly what kind of glowing response do you expect by calling someone 'satan Larimer'?!

If you want to be taken seriously then state the party you wish to address, and get a response from, with their proper name, and with respect.

It wasn't me that created that phrase.  I saw someone else  call him that and co-opted it because it's hilarious.

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General Discussion / Paging the great satan Larimer
« on: July 19, 2016, 05:55:03 am »
I keep seeing all these "woe is me, Bitshares isn't worth 1 billion dollars" posts.  Bitshares isn't worth anything because it's not actually a decentralized coin.  It's a closed entropy, permissioned ledger like all proof of stake coins.  Here is my idea for how to create a cryptocurrency with the TPS benefits of DPoS, while also retaining an open entropy system that can still be classified as decentralized.  Feel free to comment and possible complaints/improvements:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1550027.0


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General Discussion / Re: The Benefits of Proof of Work [BLOG POST]
« on: January 08, 2016, 12:29:05 pm »
Why is our platform essentially being overlooked?

That's the easiest question to answer this board has ever seen.  It's because Bitshares is designed by engineers for engineers.

1)  Bitshares is a lifestyle rather than a currency - The consensus mechanism requires constant user input and attention when the #1 thing people want out of a currency is straightforward simplicity.  If you wanted to keep voting for some reason, you would need a fallback mechanism that occurs when people don't vote, like automatically voting for whoever puts up the largest amount of collateral locked for an extended period of time.  Larimer's new blog post about PoW even favors scraping voting entirely for a collateral bid system where users are required to lock coins for a duration in order to be selected as miners/delegates.

2)  Bitshares is anti-new user with high barrier of entry - To lure in large amounts of new capital, it's required that people be able to buy their way in as delegates instead of having to campaign to become one.  The essence of all proof of stake systems relies on large investors not trying to destroy their investments on purpose, so it's completely foolish to try and diverge from that idea.  The campaigning part also creates centralization by having information gatekeepers control the election process, which currently consists of one website (this one).  You control the flow of information and you control the election process.

3)  The "shares" terminology probably never should have even been used in the first place - The native currency of any crypto will always be more important than any of it's derivatives.  "Smart coins" are by definition just a bucket shop.  The platform should be focused on the value of it's native currency over anything else.  Having an exchange or whatever is just a side benefit.

4)  Larimer insistence on running a business the opposite of how any normal business is run - Businesses in the real world run at a loss until they can attract clients.  Larimer keeps insisting Bitshares run at a profit when there are no actual customers using the platform for the system to generate profit from.  If there's only 1 user instead of your expected million users, you don't raise transaction fees on the 1 user to make up for it.

5)  Referral system - The vast majority of crypto users see the referral system as some kind of late night infomercial scheme that severely devalues the integrity of the product in general and will cause people to avoid Bitshares entirely

The list goes on....

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General Discussion / Re: The Benefits of Proof of Work [BLOG POST]
« on: January 08, 2016, 02:58:06 am »
This post honestly sounds like you did a 180 and now agree with what I said about scraping this current system and using a collateral bid system.  Mining is mostly just a futures contract, and the time opportunity cost of locking collateral is also a futures contract.  Locking collateral (collateral bids) to determine who the delegates are also solves the enormous problem in Bitshares of high barrier of entry in getting involved in the system.

The price has plummeted for 2 main reasons:

1)  Extreme barrier of entry in becoming a delegate if you don't utilize any type of collateral bid system.  People want the ability to be able to buy their way into the system and not have to campaign.

2)  You can't pretend you have a captive audience: 

A)  99% of people in crypto can't stand the referral system because it seems like some type of late night infomercial scheme.

B)  The fact that it raises transactions fees to be higher than normal and higher than most other coins is equally bad.  It doesn't matter that Bitcoin transactions will be expensive someday, you have to compete right now.

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The most efficient solution is one run by an impeccably trustworthy benevolent dictator.  That Day is coming, but until then

I'm confused on just what this statement is supposed to mean.  Is this some type of bible prophecy?  I don't get it.

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51% is a gross overestimate. Try a 13% attack; that's what bitshares is currently vulnerable to.

DPOS was designed without the realisation of  what voter apathy would actually mean for the security of the chain. Instead of being the most decentralised currency, it is currently the least decentralised with one account controlling 100% of the chain.

Time to throw the referral system back to the flames of hell from which it came and implement a collateral bid system where the client automatically votes for the top 101 accounts that put up the most collateral denominated in BTS?

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Bitcoin is backed by the odds of the legacy financial system imploding.  None of that other stuff matters.  Since there's been no 1776 against the Federal Reserve so far, it's pretty damn obvious nobody is interested in switching unless the legacy system goes down.

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General Discussion / Re: Use optional ad revenue to lower fees.
« on: October 22, 2015, 12:05:06 pm »
You guys cannot be serious.  This idea and the referral system are both bad ideas.  The platform isn't supposed to be profitable with 0 users, stop pretending it should be.  Just like any new business, you run in the negative until you attract lots of users, THEN you profit afterwards.
In other words you want an all volunteer staff that works for free, like Bitcoin.

Okay if you want that, organize it. Find the volunteers.

It has nothing to do with Bitcoin.  That's the way normal businesses work.  Why do you think Bitshares gets to defy gravity and be profitable with 0 users?  A restaurant isn't profitable with 0 customers.

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General Discussion / Re: Use optional ad revenue to lower fees.
« on: October 22, 2015, 11:33:40 am »
You guys cannot be serious.  This idea and the referral system are both bad ideas.  The platform isn't supposed to be profitable with 0 users, stop pretending it should be.  Just like any new business, you run in the negative until you attract lots of users, THEN you profit afterwards.

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General Discussion / Re: Let's Lower Trading Fee
« on: October 22, 2015, 11:27:08 am »
Transaction fees for the BTS native currency are the #1 main problem above all else.  The fees should be done with the assumption that nobody pays membership fee since everyone not on this forum thinks it's an awful scammy idea and will just boycott the system unless referrals have no or little effect on how the platform operates.  Going from 5 to 20 bts is a 400% markup to subsidize the referral system, therefore the referral system is holding the entire platform hostage.  It's clinically insane to subsidize it that much.  5-30% maybe, 400% hell no.  I do not want to ever pay a membership fee and nobody else does in the outside world either.  All it does is bring negative feelings to the entire platform.

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General Discussion / Re: Lowering Transfer Fees
« on: October 22, 2015, 08:42:50 am »
Fees are too high because the referral system incurs a 400% markup from 5 to 20.  Any legit referral system should only incur something like a 5-30% markup max, not 400%.  Bytemaster wrongfully assumes that it's fine to have this dynamic because you can just "become a member" to lower fees, yet the fee for membership system is WIDLY unpopular amongst any average person in crypto you ask.  They're far more likely to just boycott the system entirely rather than pay any membership fee.  The only solution is to lower the subsidy for the referral system drasically, or abolish it entirely.  The current paradigm does not work whatsoever.

Bytemaster only seems to make decisions under the idea of "What will it take to make Bitshares profitable?" instead of "What will it take for people like r0ach to buy bitshares at all in the first place?".  He's acting like he has a captive audience.  That's not even close to the reality of the situation.  If you add some feature that's repulsive to users, nobody is going to be utilizing that mechanism to make the system profitable because nobody will be using the system at all in the first place!  It will just be an unused thing that sits there.

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If the referral system is going to be legit, it should only affect the base by something like 5-30% max.  400% is absurd.  It's like Mark Lyford was given free reign to design it.

So it seems that, contrary to this thread's title, your conclusion is that nothing is wrong with the referral program but just the transaction fees are set too high.

I think we've already had this discussion:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19159.0.html

If someone ideologically opposed it, there's no reason to make a big deal out of the referral system if it has little or no impact on the system as a whole.  The fact of the matter is, it has a huge impact on the system as a whole in current form.  So yes, if it doesn't have a huge impact on fees, I would not care that it exists, but it does, therefore I oppose it.

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