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Français (French) / Re: My condolences
« on: November 14, 2015, 02:06:43 am »
Our best wishes to France and anyone affected. It is difficult to see so much senseless violence.
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General Discussion / Re: [PRE ANN] GreenPoints; and [PRE ANN] The First Personal Loan on The BTS DEX
« on: November 13, 2015, 07:35:48 am »
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General Discussion / Re: [EBM] CCEDK
« on: November 13, 2015, 05:20:22 am »
Doesn't that involve too many steps, though? We need to make a gateway "click, click, click" easy for people, or else this will always be a limited niche market.
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General Discussion / Re: How did we lose dns? Toast creating ens on ethereum?!
« on: November 13, 2015, 12:35:42 am »It might seem impossible to some...but as we gain more and more infrastructure, seeding many little projects early on (with light subsidization to make the pain of entrepreneurship sting a little less) and let them build without all the extra noise...we could see some sparks turn into fires. It is a guarantee that if we don't do it, other projects will. This is how Google got big (and how ethereum will get big too).
You see Fuzzy the problem is this seems to be some kind of specialized area. 90% of projects I see seem to require funding to be done. They call themselves startups but already start with huge money behind them or just tell people, we have this awesome idea, pay us or we wont do it. Entrepeneurs and startups are usually not that rich and that's what drives them. They don't get too comfortable (see ethereum) and work very very hard to accomplish their goals. The fact that they dont have much money is a very strong motivation for them to keep going.
The problem is most people could be paid many times more on other projects. But most startup entrepreneurs could too I guess. However, I dont know why, in the blockchain world this seems to be different.
If more people actually tried to do stuff instead of demanding for money, I'm sure we would have loads of more projects in the crypto scene. Also the fact that BitShares is a niche in the cryptoscene doesnt help. The risk-reward ratio isnt worth it for many so they just wont take the risk. I guess that's why everyone demands money upfront. But that will slow everything down
I love Fuzzy's comment. And yet I think that it will not necessarily be the accumulation of small projects, but the few that really catch fire, which make this a smashing success (and perhaps pave the way for more small ones to join for the ride). Most of them do need some backing. Never forget that 'profitability' has been one of BitShares' core principles from the very beginning.
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General Discussion / Re: [EBM] Exchange Business Management Team
« on: November 12, 2015, 06:23:36 pm »
Terrific. I love the direction you are going and your specific to-do list for each exchange.
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General Discussion / Re: How did we lose dns? Toast creating ens on ethereum?!
« on: November 12, 2015, 03:52:50 am »
Bitshares isn't "killed'. It's that kind of talk that is killing Bitshares.
Just because the price is down it doesn't mean it's "killed". The incomplete products isn't what killed anything, in fact it is that kind of innovation which kept me and others interested enough to stick around. Ethereum also has a lot of stuff going on and is mostly vaporware but no one is saying it's a dead project.
I would say the fact that Bytemaster and others have a grand vision is the reason to stick with this project long term. The lack of vision is a sign for when it's time to leave.
I fully agree with Luckybit. Method, I understand you are frustrated at past mistakes, but if you're going to talk about BitShares having failed in the past tense, then do it somewhere else. For those who are patient, tremendous opportunities await and I remain very hopeful about the future of this project. No one has done this before; we will keep working until we get it right.
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General Discussion / Re: bitshares is a decentralised exchange. thats all that needs to be said
« on: November 11, 2015, 03:24:06 pm »I think bitshares.org should target 3 categories of visitiors:
1. Cryptocurrency traders looking to eliminate counterparty risk
2. Libertarians that got fond of DAC idea that might be interested in investing into BTS and try to participate in BitShares self-governance
3. Developers looking to utilize all benefits of BitShares as a platform
The page should have clear call to action for each category with accent on #1 - it looks like BitShares as exchange can get some traction first, but we shouldn't ignore other categories.
I would suggest to have a big background picture with trading interface to make it to appeal to category #1 and have clear call to action for all 3 categories, it can be something like this:
- Don't trust centralized exchanges? Try first full featured decentralized exchange and eliminate counterparty risk.
- Looking to be a shareholder of first decentralized autonomous company? By shares and help the community to govern it. Get rich as price of your shares rise.
- Looking ideal high performance platform for smart contracts? Get started right now.
I strongly agree with this. Except that I think you need to be careful with #2. It's an important part of the community's and project's identity. But hitting it too hard risks turning off the #1s and #3s. Words like "decentralized" and "independence" can appeal to a lot of people, not just libertarians.
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General Discussion / Re: http://richlist.btsgame.org/ updated daily,Top1000 richest accounts of asset...
« on: November 10, 2015, 07:12:41 pm »
And then there are some who hide our balances with way too many accounts. 
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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Worker Proposal Review
« on: November 10, 2015, 05:29:53 pm »
Screw the competition. We need this change in place yesterday. It is essential to our framework and user experience. I don't think the price or time frame is outrageous at all; let's get Cryptonomex and Bunker to put this in place and then we'll have the product to attract actual volume.
If you want to have competitions and invite any out-of-work developer whose skills are not well known to the community, then do this later for add-ons.
If you want to have competitions and invite any out-of-work developer whose skills are not well known to the community, then do this later for add-ons.
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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Worker Proposal Review
« on: November 10, 2015, 05:11:42 pm »
Sounds great. I am in favor of the proposal. Let's get this done and get some more users/volume in here!!!
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General Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Blockchain showing its weakness?
« on: November 10, 2015, 05:18:31 am »
Yes, we need to get the exchange and its GUI operating at a level where everyday people can use it. And then focus on bells and whistles. Micropayments will be huge someday, and I really look forward to what they can do for charity, but we need to get this ship in order first.
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General Discussion / Re: Off-ramp / exchange options in 2.0?
« on: November 09, 2015, 07:03:09 am »
CCEDK is simple to register with. If you're going in or out with BTC or BTS, then there's no personal data needed at all. Pretty much just your e-mail address, a login, and a password of your choice. I have not tried using it with fiat, which probably requires more specifics.
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Freebie / Re: Open Beta: Testing the Tip/Sharebot Today @ Noon!
« on: November 09, 2015, 06:57:51 am »
It's Tony's opinion, not FUD. This forum was built on free speech. I've seen plenty of FUD before and his posts definitely do not fit that definition. Sometimes, he makes it more seem more personal than it should. But like all of us, he wants to see BitShares succeed and is a bit frustrated, I think, by some of the peripheral projects he views as a waste of time and effort. Personally, I think Fuzzy does a great job as an ambassador. At the same time, he does cast a pretty wide net and is on a permanent quest to build bridges when some in the community might not agree that those bridges are always helpful. Whether I agree or not with the criticism, it should be quite acceptable to question whether all activity really brings about productivity/value. And there may be a difference in how we define productivity/value as well.
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Freebie / Re: Open Beta: Testing the Tip/Sharebot Today @ Noon!
« on: November 09, 2015, 06:30:59 am »
Hey, hey, kuro. You have the right idea, but lay off my man, tonyk. No FUD. He's always well-intentioned, if a bit opinionated.
Tony, the reason tipping hasn't worked is that people get like 2 cents' worth of a junk crypto, which doesn't make it worth anybody's time to download a wallet, etc. If somebody gets $1 or more, some will pay attention. But it really must be a worthwhile medium (like BTS or GOLD) or else it won't work. I would only use it when someone has already expressed interest, kind of like a gift faucet. Do these tips expire if no one claims them?
Tony, the reason tipping hasn't worked is that people get like 2 cents' worth of a junk crypto, which doesn't make it worth anybody's time to download a wallet, etc. If somebody gets $1 or more, some will pay attention. But it really must be a worthwhile medium (like BTS or GOLD) or else it won't work. I would only use it when someone has already expressed interest, kind of like a gift faucet. Do these tips expire if no one claims them?
