Great thinking. I gotta get me some more BitShares PTS before this news gets out!+1
Stan,
Is "BitShares" more akin to "Apple" or "Mac"?
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I love to see all terms and names unified there can be no confusion about what's what. But isn't this a better hierarchy/naming convention? I think at least with outside communication it better be spelled out completely and use the short writing (BITS-PTS) in internal/tech community shoutings?
Invictus Innovations
DAC's
Bitshares family
Protoshares
Angelshares
Domainshares
etc.
Keyhotee
[edit]BitSharesTM looks really nice though [/edit]
I love to see all terms and names unified there can be no confusion about what's what. But isn't this a better hierarchy/naming convention? I think at least with outside communication it better be spelled out completely and use the short writing (BITS-PTS) in internal/tech community shoutings?
Invictus Innovations
DAC's
Bitshares family
Protoshares
Angelshares
Domainshares
etc.
Keyhotee
[edit]BitSharesTM looks really nice though [/edit]
There will still be additional DAC-specific brands.
BitShares LKS, DAC doing business as the Lucky Robot Casino or something.
I doubt that gaming customers and gaming investors will respond to the same branding.
This is mostly about how all these DACs should show up on exchanges and in the top 10 on coinmarketcap.com.
Invictus Innovations
DAC's
Bitshares family
Protoshares
Angelshares
Domainshares
etc.
Keyhotee
Invictus Innovations
DAC's
Bitshares family
Protoshares
Angelshares
Domainshares
etc.
Keyhotee
Again, why are protoshares and angelshares under bitshares, when they will also be involved with *totally unrelated* DACs?
"Because marketing" is not sufficient.
Seems to me it should be more like:
I3
DACs
BitShares
BitShares BEX
BitShares CEX
ProtoShares
AngelShares
DomainShares
Keyhotee
From a legal standpoint, wouldn't you want to avoid calling Bitshares BEX a bank? Seems like that would be a fast way to draw the attention of regulators. I'd prefer for them to think of what we're doing as a goofy experiment instead.
The BitSharesTM Brand
Now that our momentum is building and we have an active marketing arm, it’s time to think seriously about branding. We need an umbrella brand in which to invest our marketing efforts so that we don’t water them down with too many sub-brands. Given the number of DACs we envision, that could certainly happen if we start advertising ProtoShares and AngelShares and BitShares and DomainShares and LuckyShares and, um, DogeShares etc.
We need to market all these products under one brand that everyone recognizes. Like Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Windows, etc.
Our Invictus brand is focused on our role as a trustworthy partner known as a behind-the-scenes innovator and even-handed community developer. But we need a more highly visible brand for our whole crypto-equity ecosystem. A brand not for who we are but for what we are building. A brand with Satoshi-like immunity from the risks of association with a flesh and blood company. One Brand to find them all with a single Google search.
We have decided to dedicate our established BitSharesTM brand to the cause. It is already getting a lot of attention and it has a nice parallelism with Bitcoin, which in the public mind has become virtually synonymous with the crypto-currency ecosystem, including all its altcoins. We hope that BitShares will serve a similar function for the crypto-equity domain.
What does this mean for our existing projects? Well, BitShares already applies to a whole family of our exchange DACs. Now it applies to them all. For example.
• BitShares PTS is our brand of proto shares honoring industry miners.
• BitShares AGS is our brand of angel shares honoring industry patrons.
• BitShares BEX is our flagship brand for our first Bank and EXchange DAC.
• BitShares CEX is our brand for our first Commodities EXchange.
• BitShares LKS is our brand for LuckyShares – robotically honest gaming.
• BitShares DMS is our brand for DomainShares – an IP address registry.
Keyhotee is not a crypto-equity and therefore has its own privacy-oriented brand.
We could use everyone’s help in starting to use these new names in all our dialogs, documents, graphics, and web sites.
Call me a radical or whatever, but we need to actually go in the opposite direction first. To market something , to Brand something, we have to make it known, to make it known we have to know it ourselves. We do that by defining it. We have an understanding of what cryptos are, how PTS works and the like, but really, we need to find a way to speak to the world and define this new thing called a DAC. Everyone worries about the volatility of BTC, while we currently rely on it, DACs have the possiblity of devising a new marker for value. Putting this out into the world may very well bring value because most of the crypto -newcomers do not wish to spend their days on trade sites watching for crashes. They want to buy, sit then cash out later. Let's define, then market the idea of investing in a DAC via crypto, and show the endless possibility of profit and growth of investments.
Stan,
Is "BitShares" more akin to "Apple" or "Mac"?
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BitShares ~ Mac
Invictus ~ Apple
Except that BitShares could apply to sponsored/endorsed 3rd Party DACs that honor PTS and AGS.
Maybe its more like
BitShares ~ Linux
or put another way:
Apple > Mac
Invictus < BitShares
(My apologies to mathematicians for comparing apples and oranges.)
Call me a radical or whatever, but we need to actually go in the opposite direction first. To market something , to Brand something, we have to make it known, to make it known we have to know it ourselves. We do that by defining it. We have an understanding of what cryptos are, how PTS works and the like, but really, we need to find a way to speak to the world and define this new thing called a DAC. Everyone worries about the volatility of BTC, while we currently rely on it, DACs have the possiblity of devising a new marker for value. Putting this out into the world may very well bring value because most of the crypto -newcomers do not wish to spend their days on trade sites watching for crashes. They want to buy, sit then cash out later. Let's define, then market the idea of investing in a DAC via crypto, and show the endless possibility of profit and growth of investments.
I agree with this. Bitshares is not a product, it's a protocol. It should be explained but it's more like inventing one of the first search engines. First you have to explain what a search engine is before you can call yourself Google or Yahoo or Excite.Stan,
Is "BitShares" more akin to "Apple" or "Mac"?
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BitShares ~ Mac
Invictus ~ Apple
Except that BitShares could apply to sponsored/endorsed 3rd Party DACs that honor PTS and AGS.
Maybe its more like
BitShares ~ Linux
or put another way:
Apple > Mac
Invictus < BitShares
(My apologies to mathematicians for comparing apples and oranges.)
The problem with the constant comparisons to Apple is, does I3 share the same values as Apple?
Apple right now has a terrible reputation internationally but a very good reputation in the USA.
Apple is distrusted, and doesn't really seem to value privacy at all. They are good at marketing and setting trends, but there are a lot of values which go directly against the values of I3. For example Apple is closed source, uses customer lock ins, and does not really seem to respect the user. Google on the other hand is about flexibility, respects the user more, and tries to make all it's apps free.
What does I3 stand for and how can I3 show it's values through it's marketing? When we hear about Bitshares we should instantly know what the values behind it are and learn to appreciate those values.
Apple markets itself on being cool. That is good when you're first. iPhone was first, iPad was first, iTunes was first, so being cool is all it would take to sell. But if you look closely the iPhone lost to the Android, the iPad lost to the Nexus, iTunes is beginning to lose it's dominance to Amazon, because to maintain long term dominance you have to be committed to sustainable principles which can last and being cool and having buzz in my opinion only lasts a few years.
I think Invictus Innovations could focus on the one area which it's ahead of everyone else and that is at innovation. I3 has some of the best new concepts and ideas, and if the brand I3 comes to be recognized as the source of innovation in this space and their products are recognized as being on the cutting edge then people will gravitate toward it. Invictus wont always have first mover advantage but if the concepts like the DAC and transaction based Proof of Stake catch on then all of this goes to the list of innovations.
I think I3 should be compared to Bell Labs, not Apple.
The BitSharesTM Brand
Now that our momentum is building and we have an active marketing arm, it’s time to think seriously about branding. We need an umbrella brand in which to invest our marketing efforts so that we don’t water them down with too many sub-brands. Given the number of DACs we envision, that could certainly happen if we start advertising ProtoShares and AngelShares and BitShares and DomainShares and LuckyShares and, um, DogeShares etc.
We need to market all these products under one brand that everyone recognizes. Like Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Windows, etc.
Our Invictus brand is focused on our role as a trustworthy partner known as a behind-the-scenes innovator and even-handed community developer. But we need a more highly visible brand for our whole crypto-equity ecosystem. A brand not for who we are but for what we are building. A brand with Satoshi-like immunity from the risks of association with a flesh and blood company. One Brand to find them all with a single Google search.
We have decided to dedicate our established BitSharesTM brand to the cause. It is already getting a lot of attention and it has a nice parallelism with Bitcoin, which in the public mind has become virtually synonymous with the crypto-currency ecosystem, including all its altcoins. We hope that BitShares will serve a similar function for the crypto-equity domain.
What does this mean for our existing projects? Well, BitShares already applies to a whole family of our exchange DACs. Now it applies to them all. For example.
• BitShares PTS is our brand of proto shares honoring industry miners.
• BitShares AGS is our brand of angel shares honoring industry patrons.
• BitShares BEX is our flagship brand for our first Bank and EXchange DAC.
• BitShares CEX is our brand for our first Commodities EXchange.
• BitShares LKS is our brand for LuckyShares – robotically honest gaming.
• BitShares DMS is our brand for DomainShares – an IP address registry.
Keyhotee is not a crypto-equity and therefore has its own privacy-oriented brand.
We could use everyone’s help in starting to use these new names in all our dialogs, documents, graphics, and web sites.
Why not use the 3I brand? It markets everything 3I creates.
Bitshares is just a protocol.
The BitSharesTM Brand
Now that our momentum is building and we have an active marketing arm, it’s time to think seriously about branding. We need an umbrella brand in which to invest our marketing efforts so that we don’t water them down with too many sub-brands. Given the number of DACs we envision, that could certainly happen if we start advertising ProtoShares and AngelShares and BitShares and DomainShares and LuckyShares and, um, DogeShares etc.
We need to market all these products under one brand that everyone recognizes. Like Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Windows, etc.
Our Invictus brand is focused on our role as a trustworthy partner known as a behind-the-scenes innovator and even-handed community developer. But we need a more highly visible brand for our whole crypto-equity ecosystem. A brand not for who we are but for what we are building. A brand with Satoshi-like immunity from the risks of association with a flesh and blood company. One Brand to find them all with a single Google search.
We have decided to dedicate our established BitSharesTM brand to the cause. It is already getting a lot of attention and it has a nice parallelism with Bitcoin, which in the public mind has become virtually synonymous with the crypto-currency ecosystem, including all its altcoins. We hope that BitShares will serve a similar function for the crypto-equity domain.
What does this mean for our existing projects? Well, BitShares already applies to a whole family of our exchange DACs. Now it applies to them all. For example.
• BitShares PTS is our brand of proto shares honoring industry miners.
• BitShares AGS is our brand of angel shares honoring industry patrons.
• BitShares BEX is our flagship brand for our first Bank and EXchange DAC.
• BitShares CEX is our brand for our first Commodities EXchange.
• BitShares LKS is our brand for LuckyShares – robotically honest gaming.
• BitShares DMS is our brand for DomainShares – an IP address registry.
Keyhotee is not a crypto-equity and therefore has its own privacy-oriented brand.
We could use everyone’s help in starting to use these new names in all our dialogs, documents, graphics, and web sites.
Why not use the 3I brand? It markets everything 3I creates.
Bitshares is just a protocol.
BitShares is a brand.
BitShares has a protocol.
Invictus is a company bootstrapping an industry of manned and unmanned companies.
BitShares is a product line spanning that industry.
BitShares helps all our companies inherit a common recognition and increases our market footprint.
It causes all our unmanned companies to appear together in any alphabetized list of crypto-equities.
It lets you find them all with one Googled word. Search for one, find all the rest.
:)
Invictus Innovations
DAC's
Bitshares family
Protoshares
Angelshares
Domainshares
etc.
Keyhotee
Again, why are protoshares and angelshares under bitshares, when they will also be involved with *totally unrelated* DACs?
"Because marketing" is not sufficient.
Seems to me it should be more like:
I3
DACs
BitShares
BitShares BEX
BitShares CEX
ProtoShares
AngelShares
DomainShares
Keyhotee
Invictus Innovations
DAC's
Bitshares family
Protoshares
Angelshares
Domainshares
etc.
Keyhotee
Again, why are protoshares and angelshares under bitshares, when they will also be involved with *totally unrelated* DACs?
"Because marketing" is not sufficient.
Seems to me it should be more like:
I3
DACs
BitShares
BitShares BEX
BitShares CEX
ProtoShares
AngelShares
DomainShares
Keyhotee
I also perceived the structure like this.
The problem I would have with the proposal would be that Bitshares would be an umbrella brand as well as a specific DAC. That could be confusing.
Up to now Bitshares was always presented as the crypto currency for option trading. Would that be BEX / CEX in your scheme instead?
I see your need for an umbrella brand and the worries that it could be confused with a flesh and blood company! But consider that anybody that sees a common branding for all I3 DACs (like the suggested Bitshares branding) will ask what do they all have in common and why is there a common branding? And the answer is I3 as the developer / issuer. So the bitshares branding would just disguise this.
Invictus Innovations
DAC's
Bitshares family
Protoshares
Angelshares
Domainshares
etc.
Keyhotee
Again, why are protoshares and angelshares under bitshares, when they will also be involved with *totally unrelated* DACs?
"Because marketing" is not sufficient.
Seems to me it should be more like:
I3
DACs
BitShares
BitShares BEX
BitShares CEX
ProtoShares
AngelShares
DomainShares
Keyhotee
I also perceived the structure like this.
The problem I would have with the proposal would be that Bitshares would be an umbrella brand as well as a specific DAC. That could be confusing.
Up to now Bitshares was always presented as the crypto currency for option trading. Would that be BEX / CEX in your scheme instead?
I see your need for an umbrella brand and the worries that it could be confused with a flesh and blood company! But consider that anybody that sees a common branding for all I3 DACs (like the suggested Bitshares branding) will ask what do they all have in common and why is there a common branding? And the answer is I3 as the developer / issuer. So the bitshares branding would just disguise this.
That structure has been our thinking, you are correct. Now BitShares has received a promotion.
This is for one very simple reason: bit-shares is the perfect parallel to bit-coin for communicating the duality (and differences) and between crypto-equities and crypto-currencies. No other name would do for that purpose.
And BitShares can also apply to endorsed 3rd-party DACs so we wanted to avoid asking other companies to operate under the Invictus brand. BitShares will be bigger than just Invictus.
BitShares BEX will meet the original expectations of BitShares. Then the BitShares brand will grow, as long planned, to multiple BitShares exchange chains. Each of these will need a name extension anyway. Then it will grow to mean any endorsed chain that honors the social consensus.
Like Amazon is no longer thought of first and foremost as a book store, so shall the public perception of BitShares grow in stature as every new success and promotion grows its recognition as the brand for incorruptible unmanned companies with robotically reliable integrity.
Once that brand is established in the public's mind, there will be even more reason for 3rd party developers to honor the PTS and AGS contribution to founding the BitShares franchise.
This is a major stratagem for driving the value for all shareholders to new heights... as promised.
Alright that's a bit more clear, but I'm still concerned about overloading the "BitShares" term. I think you should take some care to establish what sorts of crypto-equities should fall under the "BitShares" umbrella and which shouldn't.
My opinion is that BitShares should only apply to cryptoequity in systems that behave "close enough" to how BitShares BEX does.
Perhaps a good criterion is if the system 1) honors AGS and PTS and 2) implements cross-chain trading with existing BitShares chains. Then DomainShares and possibly ProtoShares (with a soft fork) could be called BTS DNS and BTS PTS, but angelshares shouldn't be called BTS AGS.
Basically imagine how many times you'll have to reply to someone who says "WTB BTS AGS for BTS BEX" with, "actually, BTS AGS is not part of the BitShares chain groups and is not a tradeable. Read more about how all the different BTS DACs behave here"
Ok two more questions:
What's the new "short name" the thing Dan is currently working on? BEX?
As per my previous post, where do you draw the line between crypto-equity that counts as bitshares? BitShares Litecoin is crypto-equity in the litecoin currency DAC!
Again, my proposed criteria: honoring pts/ags, and cross-chain trading with other bitshares (base case being BEX)
Put another way: bitshares are a sub-thing of i3 DACs. What kinds of DACs might you make that aren't a sub-thing of bitshares?
Put another way: bitshares are a sub-thing of i3 DACs. What kinds of DACs might you make that aren't a sub-thing of bitshares?
This is important too
Put another way: bitshares are a sub-thing of i3 DACs. What kinds of DACs might you make that aren't a sub-thing of bitshares?
This is important too
Keyhotee is not a DAC
It is already getting a lot of attention and it has a nice parallelism with Bitcoin, which in the public mind has become virtually synonymous with the crypto-currency ecosystem, including all its altcoins. We hope that BitShares will serve a similar function for the crypto-equity domain.
This is for one very simple reason: bit-shares is the perfect parallel to bit-coin for communicating the duality (and differences) and between crypto-equities and crypto-currencies. No other name would do for that purpose.
Bitshares is a distributed-prediction-market-based polymorphic digital asset exchange, but are you honestly going to say that on an elevator to someone? We need to shorten that to something understandable. Bitcoin - Digital Currency. Bitshares - Assets Exchange?
Bitshares is a distributed-prediction-market-based polymorphic digital asset exchange, but are you honestly going to say that on an elevator to someone? We need to shorten that to something understandable. Bitcoin - Digital Currency. Bitshares - Assets Exchange?
Nope, BitShares is not an asset exchange anymore. You're thinking of BitShares BEX. BitShares is a loose collection of I3 DACs which all have the common theme that they relate to equity. What you're suggesting would be natural and easy to market, but we have a new Branding StrategyTM
You can own a bitcoin. You can't own a bitshare (anymore). You can own a unit of a thing which has the brand BitShares prepended to it though.
Bitshares is a distributed-prediction-market-based polymorphic digital asset exchange, but are you honestly going to say that on an elevator to someone? We need to shorten that to something understandable. Bitcoin - Digital Currency. Bitshares - Assets Exchange?
Nope, BitShares is not an asset exchange anymore. You're thinking of BitShares BEX. BitShares is a loose collection of I3 DACs which all have the common theme that they relate to equity. What you're suggesting would be natural and easy to market, but we have a new Branding StrategyTM
You can own a bitcoin. You can't own a bitshare (anymore). You can own a unit of a thing which has the brand BitShares prepended to it though.
I agree it is a bit messy. Thank you all for your feedback I am sure Stan & Brian will hear you out and entertain ideas to clear things up. Something to consider is the following:
BitShares BEX -> Currency Assets (ie banking)
BitShares CEX -> CommodityShares Commodities (ie comex)
BitSHares NDQ -> TechShares Tech Exchange, Nasdaq
BitShares DOW -> ...
You get the idea, all of these BitShares changes are 100% identical except for the asset names in the prediction markets. They are all "BitShares" but each has a dedicated purpose. Given this reality having BitShares PTS, AGS, DMS, etc don't seem that out of place.
Brian and Stan are reasonable people looking for a good branding solution and I am very busy with other tasks so generally defer to them on these issues. I will have to increasingly rely on others (Dan Notestein for Keyhotee) etc to fully implement my vision and ideas.
Given this reality having BitShares PTS, AGS, DMS, etc don't seem that out of place.DMS yes, if it is implemented as an asset-tracking marketplace where the assets are domains, using the same mechanism as the above bitshare types.
Ah ok. Makes sense. Really love this concept now.Bitshares is a distributed-prediction-market-based polymorphic digital asset exchange, but are you honestly going to say that on an elevator to someone? We need to shorten that to something understandable. Bitcoin - Digital Currency. Bitshares - Assets Exchange?
Nope, BitShares is not an asset exchange anymore. You're thinking of BitShares BEX. BitShares is a loose collection of I3 DACs which all have the common theme that they relate to equity. What you're suggesting would be natural and easy to market, but we have a new Branding StrategyTM
You can own a bitcoin. You can't own a bitshare (anymore). You can own a unit of a thing which has the brand BitShares prepended to it though.
• BitShares LKS is our brand for LuckyShares – robotically honest gaming.
• BitShares LKS is our brand for LuckyShares – robotically honest gaming.
Any relation to: https://github.com/LuckyCoinProject/Luckycoin ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214614.0
Yes, from the public/media's point of view we want to achieve this parallelism:Ah ok. Makes sense. Really love this concept now.Bitshares is a distributed-prediction-market-based polymorphic digital asset exchange, but are you honestly going to say that on an elevator to someone? We need to shorten that to something understandable. Bitcoin - Digital Currency. Bitshares - Assets Exchange?
Nope, BitShares is not an asset exchange anymore. You're thinking of BitShares BEX. BitShares is a loose collection of I3 DACs which all have the common theme that they relate to equity. What you're suggesting would be natural and easy to market, but we have a new Branding StrategyTM
You can own a bitcoin. You can't own a bitshare (anymore). You can own a unit of a thing which has the brand BitShares prepended to it though.
Ok two more questions:
What's the new "short name" the thing Dan is currently working on? BEX?
As per my previous post, where do you draw the line between crypto-equity that counts as bitshares? BitShares Litecoin is crypto-equity in the litecoin currency DAC!
Again, my proposed criteria: honoring pts/ags, and cross-chain trading with other bitshares (base case being BEX)
Those two criteria certainly make a good start!
It also has to be endorsable, i.e. compatible with our core principles.
I don't think BitShares SlaveTrader would fly... :)
I've collected everything I'm trying to say in one post to make replying easier.
Thanks for the answers and patience from Stan and others. I'm arguing with you guys because I think this is a *really* important issue and that you haven't realized how much confusion it could cause.
Please tell me what the new names are for ALL of these concepts. They should have clear names and should be overloaded only if the terms can only appear in different contexts.
If you find this challenging, don't go ahead with this re-branding until we figure everything out.
Names:
1) What was formerly known as BitShares, the awesome innovation that is the distributed-prediction-market-based polymorphic digital asset exchange
2) The core asset in the original BitShares chain, formerly BTS
3) The whole system of prediction-market-based exchanges
4) An arbitrary new instance of (1), which is a part of (3)
5) An arbitrary new core asset, the core asset of a (4)
6) An invictus-endorsed crypto-equity (the NEW BitShares)
(my answers after my moment of clarity are: 1) BEX for the concept as a whole, BEXCurrency for the root chain 2) BEX 3) BEX 4) BEX***, BEXchain 5) BEX***Share 6) BitShares )
(second point of confusion: do non-primary chains have *separate* base units, like BEXStockShares? or do BEX aka BitShares1.0 units get transferred into the new chain?)
And, on top of that naming challenge, a question: Could there possibly be a DAC you release whose equity you do NOT call a BitShare? If so, give an example; if not, acknowledge that "BitShares" is essentially the new name for "I3 DAC".Put another way: bitshares are a sub-thing of i3 DACs. What kinds of DACs might you make that aren't a sub-thing of bitshares?
This is important too
Keyhotee is not a DAC
I understand. I'm asking, is there anything that would be a DAC, but would not be a BitShare, under the new scheme.QuoteIt is already getting a lot of attention and it has a nice parallelism with Bitcoin, which in the public mind has become virtually synonymous with the crypto-currency ecosystem, including all its altcoins. We hope that BitShares will serve a similar function for the crypto-equity domain.QuoteThis is for one very simple reason: bit-shares is the perfect parallel to bit-coin for communicating the duality (and differences) and between crypto-equities and crypto-currencies. No other name would do for that purpose.
But "bitcoin" doesn't mean "cryptocurrency"! Nobody says "litecoin and peercoin are two examples of bitcoins".
You are making the analogy to bitcoin LESS applicable. bitcoin:currency::bitshares:equity worked better for the OLD definition. You can't own a bitshare anymore, for example.
Great thinking. I gotta get me some more BitShares PTS before this news gets out!+1
I just exchanged all my PTS for BitShares PTSTM at the rate 1:1!
Yes :)Great thinking. I gotta get me some more BitShares PTS before this news gets out!+1
I just exchanged all my PTS for BitShares PTSTM at the rate 1:1!
You are kidding about this right?
Yes :)Great thinking. I gotta get me some more BitShares PTS before this news gets out!+1
I just exchanged all my PTS for BitShares PTSTM at the rate 1:1!
You are kidding about this right?
An often overlooked issue when attempting to establish credibility/branding is the quality of writing. Inviticus appears to have sharp, forward-looking, creative people, but their writing skills just aren't on the same level. Heck, the present company homepage wasn't even run through a spellchecker: "concensus" is not a word.
I'll admit I was initially turned off when I first started looking at the DAC concepts because the explanatory writing was not at a professional level. American idioms and metaphors are used and these are not going to play well with an international audience. Sloppy writing is not going to dissuade everybody (and I eventually became a Protoshare investor), but why add an additional barrier?
Impressions count for a lot. Going to a job interview wearing jeans, sneakers, and a T-shirt doesn't automatically dismiss you as an under-qualified candidate. Most potential employers, however, aren't going to make the extra effort to determine if you've got the desired skills if you present yourself poorly.
Cleaning up the writing will go a long way to promoting the company and its ideas.
(http://the-iland.net/static/images/BitSharesFinalTM.jpg)
BitShares - Reimagine Everything
Keyhotee - Own your Identity
PTS - Trade future BitShares
AGS - Build future BitShares
BitShares X - Save & Exchange Anything
Another Idea:
BitShares X - Earn 5% or MORE on ANYTHING
BitShares are any blockchain-based business and are what we would like to be the official 'brand name' to replace the technical term DAC. All DACs have bitshares and thus all DACs produced by Invictus are BitShares. BitShares X is the generic concept for all BitShares exchanges originally described by our white paper. X is symbolic of eXchange and also the variable x which indicates that there may be many different kinds of exchanges such as DOW, S&P, COMEX, FOREX, etc and these will be branded by the people who launch them. BitShares X is the brand of the system and generic open source software WE are producing. As BitShares X is an abstract class with no instantiations it has no 3 letter currency such as BEX, TEX, DMS, PTS, AGS, etc... these 3-letter extensions will be reserved for the specific instances.
The X will be styled after the arm of the 'b' and the tickmark on the 'i' in the BitShares logo.
As always we are rapidly working to refine our brand and doing so early, often, and publicly. We just wanted to share our latest thinking as I think we are converging on something that will be much easier for Brian to market. Feedback is appreciated.
Is that Bitshare logo final? Kinda looks like a snail trying to climb up a wall :-\
Bytemaster. I'm a huge fan of all of this. Especially the logo. Who made it?
Is that Bitshare logo final? Kinda looks like a snail trying to climb up a wall :-\
You just had to point that out to me didn't you... lol
I see in that logo a "B" that looks like a spiral staircase shaped conveyor that's 7 DACs coming onto a slide and out into the world one after another. The different shades give them a little individuality.
Stan,请注意中国这个巨大的新兴市场,这里有很多战略家和精英,请将中国的分公司提上日程,构建bitshares 全球布局。我们很多人持有pts ,还有ags .但和你们缺少沟通的平台。还有在中国的传统节日-春节,释放一些好消息,信心非常重要!持续的影响力是你们营销部门该思考的。
Stan,请注意中国这个巨大的新兴市场,这里有很多战略家和精英,请将中国的分公司提上日程,构建bitshares 全球布局。我们很多人持有pts ,还有ags .但和你们缺少沟通的平台。还有在中国的传统节日-春节,释放一些好消息,信心非常重要!持续的影响力是你们营销部门该思考的。
I am not sure if Stan can understand what you texted here. I would like to translate:
Please pay attention to Chinese huge new market, there are lots of strategist and elites in China. Could you please build a Chinese branch company and global layout of bitshares? We hold lots of PTS and AGS, but lack of communication platform in China. Moreover, it is very important to give people more confidence by issuing some good news during Chinese traditional new year - spring festival. You should pay more attention to the continuous influence of III company.
+1 for big picture and thinking globallyStan,请注意中国这个巨大的新兴市场,这里有很多战略家和精英,请将中国的分公司提上日程,构建bitshares 全球布局。我们很多人持有pts ,还有ags .但和你们缺少沟通的平台。还有在中国的传统节日-春节,释放一些好消息,信心非常重要!持续的影响力是你们营销部门该思考的。
I am not sure if Stan can understand what you texted here. I would like to translate:
Please pay attention to Chinese huge new market, there are lots of strategist and elites in China. Could you please build a Chinese branch company and global layout of bitshares? We hold lots of PTS and AGS, but lack of communication platform in China. Moreover, it is very important to give people more confidence by issuing some good news during Chinese traditional new year - spring festival. You should pay more attention to the continuous influence of III company.
Clarification: Doe PTS and AGS holders each get 50% in Bitshares x (meaning all Bitshares) or just in bitshares BEX?
Clarification: Doe PTS and AGS holders each get 50% in Bitshares x (meaning all Bitshares) or just in bitshares BEX?
We have promised exactly 1 chain to be 50/50; however, unless the other chains require significant extra R&D I can see no rationale to allocate other than 50/50 for all BitShares X chains.
BitShares CEX is our brand for our first Commodities EXchange. That would equal the colored coins idea?
BitShares CEX is our brand for our first Commodities EXchange. That would equal the colored coins idea?
Nope, colored coins are digital bearer bonds...
BitShares CEX is our brand for our first Commodities EXchange. That would equal the colored coins idea?
Nope, colored coins are digital bearer bonds...
Yes. Does I3 plan on something with colored coins? And what is CEX then? Where can I read about it?
BitShares CEX is our brand for our first Commodities EXchange. That would equal the colored coins idea?
Nope, colored coins are digital bearer bonds...
Yes. Does I3 plan on something with colored coins? And what is CEX then? Where can I read about it?
Every BitShares X chain has certain assets it trades, "CEX" was for commodity derivatives and is otherwise the same as every other BitShares X chain.
Oil corn copper lead etc.
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Oil corn copper lead etc.
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So same technology but different block chain for scaling purposes?
+1
New logo looks great.
This link is dead?
http://invictus.io/funding-angelshares.php