Hello,
What I will be detailing here is not intended to announce a DAC, but as I explained over here... https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15756.0/all.html
There doesn't seem to be an "announce your company" area, so this is where I promised to bring the discussion.
Please note that this is not intended as an announce.
It is just a way to quickly answer questions that the community has had regarding us.
I am posting here because I promised I would give a complete rundown detailing.
#1 Who we are
#2 What we have planned
#3 Why we are planning it
#4 How far along we are
#5 What we still need to do
#6 It's expected impact
#7 Roles that remain to be filled
I try to always keep my promises, and I'm usually really good about meeting deliverables.
My goal was to have this thread opened for discussion about 24 hrs ago.
That did not happen, because the domain we were using for internal email exchange went offline due to an ICANN related issue.
The actual issue was resolved almost immediately, but it appears that the internal communications within our company are still disrupted due to DNS caching of the previous state. We've been using SMS alot, but there is only so much you can convey in 255 characters.
In case you're wondering about the ICANN issue, someone forgot to confirm something during the domain registration & renewal process, and it unexpectedly wiped us off the internet for a few hours. We are now waiting for the internet to catch up. Thank you clayop for bringing the matter to my attention so quickly.
Since there is no way for me to create a moderated thread, I would like to ask that everyone hold off on asking questions on this thread until I've had a chance to clean it up and go a bit more expository. I'm thinking I can do that by Monday assuming Murphy's law doesn't strike again.
That should give me enough time to work out several fundamental technical items still on my plate (domains still not resolving, email down, equipment move etc). Once those are out of the way, I will hopefully have more space to go into greater depth about things.
It will also allow me time to invite the other members of the project into the discussion, so we are all here standing together and then you can ask us anything.
In the meantime, let me give you the gloss of it, because you have been so patient with us.
As you know from the topic of the thread, we are called gemspace.
GEMspace stands for Global Electronic Marketspace.
We had tried to come up with an acronym for the "SPACE" portion, but everything we tried ended up feeling a bit tortured.
gemspace is our official registered name on the blockchain, we also use globalelectronicmarket. globalelectronicmarket is used for running test transactions, whereas gemspace is the live "official" business account.
The company name is Gemspace Holdings Inc, but the registration paperwork has not returned from the state yet, so there is a possibility that this may change. It is a joint venture between several other companies who are all smaller, closely held companies from Wyoming, Colorado & California and a few international players as well. For legal & tax purposes we are incorporating in Wyoming, I'll update this posting to provide a link to the business registration once it's confirmed with the state.
The purpose of gemspace is to provide the world's first fully SEC compliant platform for small business to access the US capital markets.
We are operating under the JOBS Act, mostly Title III.
What makes us different from other "crowdfund" platforms is that we are building new technology to allow you to create fully compliant offerings and leverage the power of the blockchain. In essence we will be turning the blockchain into the official "share transfer register", for any company that launches through our service.
Furthermore, we are building an exchange site where investors will be able to swap shares into and out of other bitAssets such as bitUSD.
The exchange site will ride directly on top of the decentralized exchange already built into bitshares. Thus the exchange site itself is really more or less there to attract people who would otherwise not have an interest in cryptocurrencies.
The final piece of the puzzle is a gateway. Our gateway is a bit different than most. It isn't a "website" where you put in banking details etc. Instead we are creating new firmware that will run on top of the most popular ATM platforms to allow existing "bitcoin" ATMs to offer the full range of bitshares & bitassets. The goal is that an end user can go to the ATM, and buy or sell their bitassets directly for cash, in addition to processing their regular bitcoin business.
The gateway firmware project is being developed as part of the gemspace project, but at the technical level it is tied to bitshares, not gemspace.
This is necessary, because each country has it's own laws regarding the sale of equities and gemspace itself only targets compliance with US & Canadian laws.
In otherwords, we don't want an ATM owner in Brazil or Zimbabwe to be hemmed in by US law.
We just want to ensure he/she has the best platform possible to increase their sales.
There are other pieces of this puzzle as well, but these are the most important and highest profile at this time.
As you can probably guess, this is a monstrously complex undertaking.
The technology to make this work is my primary job and 20hr days have been the norm since March 25th.
My name is Devin Luker, I am known here as tsaishen (chinese money deity) and I am the CIO. Because making the technology comply with SEC regs is a huge part of what I do here, I've found myself in a cycle of constantly pivoting between what we CAN do from a technical standpoint and what we are ALLOWED to do from a legal standpoint.
As broadly sweeping as they are, the technical aspects are actually only a small part of the puzzle.
There are also business, legal and financial matters, that make up the bulk of what is going on behind the scenes.
For example, our original goal was to launch with a "vote for your favorite company" community site. Then we would take the top 10 each month and join them with an attorney who would walk them through the SEC registration process, from there we would give them compliance tech and let them manage it.
We found out at the 11th hour, that the way the rules now read, would not really allow for that model. This caused a business model pivot, that resulted in changes to requirements and of course the fundamental tech needs to be adapted to match.
So those of you who were expecting the voting thing, just be advised that voting is no longer a thing we will be doing at all.
Instead each company interested in listing will be fully vetted upfront, the opportunity screened and listed with the SEC directly.
In otherwords, you can just vote with your wallet.
The newer model is cleaner and simpler though. Speaking from a technical standpoint, the new model is actually easier for us to implement. From a business standpoint though, the compliance burden went up dramatically and this will result in a much slower on-boarding process.
We have a real advantage in the fact that the new SEC guidelines don't go into effect until 60 days after they were published in the federal register. This gives us a little breathing time to allocate more resources to optimizing the compliance pipeline.
Honestly though, it's not much time, and for the moment I'm wearing more than just the CIO hat, a certain chunk of the business planning work now falls to me. This is one of the main reasons I was seeking to purchase bitUSD and pay people up front for their efforts in our launch. By getting payroll sized up and allocated, there would be no problems with at least ensuring that at the end of the day we had no "accidental" volunteers as I've seen happen in so many other companies during pre-launch.
So this is a very high level overview of the 7 items I promised to discuss in depth and I realize that it barely only even touches on half of them.
It's currently 5:00 AM, I started writing this at 2:00 AM, I have a meeting at 6:00 AM and then I am physically moving equipment the rest of the day. I don't expect to be back online until around 8 or 9 PM which is when I have a skype with the rest of the tech team. I expect that to run until midnight, mostly because we will be doing a team coding session.
Sunday I will be working to stand up the website so we at least have a proper landing page for you guys to check out, then I'll hand over the landing page to marketing. Once that is complete, I will come back here and update this posting. I will eventually need to sleep, but the rest of the team is busier than I am. I am inviting them to come here and at least make introductions. We want you to know who we are, we're just a bit busier than we expected to be at this stage.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, and I'll see you Monday.
Any reason why you would classify this as a scam?
Any reason why you would classify this as a scam?
several other companies who are all smaller, closely held companies from Wyoming, Colorado & California and a few international playersCan't name the names of the joint venture companies and he went ahead and listed states but couldn't list the countries. I bet he has a supermodel girlfriend back in New York too.
Since there is no way for me to create a moderated thread, I would like to ask that everyone hold off on asking questions on this thread until I've had a chance to clean it up and go a bit more expository. I'm thinking I can do that by Monday assuming Murphy's law doesn't strike again.In other words, "ask me questions so I can figure out a way to work around them and tell you what you want to hear and I am going to take until Monday to figure it out. But if I can't figure it out I am reserving the right to delay on behalf of Murphy's Law"
Just a guess.
Any reason why you would classify this as a scam?
Just a guess.
The "checks in the mail" excuses and the hesitation when asked for proof. Nobody is unplugged from the internet. Especially someone who lives in California or the pacific time zone.
20hour days is a crock of shit and you know it.
Oh, and Devin Luker from CA doesn't exist on Facebook. His writing style lumps him into a younger generation and a majority of young people at least have a FB account even if they don't use it. His name is probably fake.Quoteseveral other companies who are all smaller, closely held companies from Wyoming, Colorado & California and a few international playersCan't name the names of the joint venture companies and he went ahead and listed states but couldn't list the countries. I bet he has a supermodel girlfriend back in New York too.
And, he is a CIO of this new Company that doesn't exist yet and these "joint venture" companies are allowing the CIO to reach out and sell the idea to gain funds.
Not to mention, he/they are creating a crowdsource platform, a trading platform, and an "on-ramp". Might as well throw a solution to World hunger and Cold Fusion in there and we'll be set to go.
And the kicker is:QuoteSince there is no way for me to create a moderated thread, I would like to ask that everyone hold off on asking questions on this thread until I've had a chance to clean it up and go a bit more expository. I'm thinking I can do that by Monday assuming Murphy's law doesn't strike again.In other words, "ask me questions so I can figure out a way to work around them and tell you what you want to hear and I am going to take until Monday to figure it out. But if I can't figure it out I am reserving the right to delay on behalf of Murphy's Law"
Something tells me this is an alt-account created by someone who has been here awhile and they are attempting to pray on the desperate with the thoughts and dreams of success when BTS is at an all-time low in price and morale. It also seem that there are a few people blindly backing and accepting this guy despite the flags. This makes them either stupid, gullible, blind, or part of the scam. No offense of course.
Red flags continue to exist as I said in the other thread and you point out here.
He said he has engaged 27 (or was it 42) members (prepaid never the less) of this community. He said to them to speak and yet not a word from even a single one of them....
At least he is not asking for money anymore :) ... so let's wait and see where this things go.
Dear Bitsharestalk members,
Before this thread turn into a witch hunting flame throwing dragon spamming ulgstamonsta, let me chip in some words here to backup the stuff "tsaishen" is slapping around your heads the past days.
My name is Alec Hahn, CEO and founder of Bitcoin42 (www.bitcoin42.com) and the freshly titled CEO of Gemspace. Please everybody understand that this is indeed a very ambitious project, and we are working very hard to be first hitters. The email communication issue was indeed a bit dumb, since a email forwarder was not set correctly to get notified about the domain registration information update.
I will soon make a more elaborated post. So please practice some patience and enjoy the ride in the meanwhile.
Best regards,
Alec
Dear Bitsharestalk members,
Before this thread turn into a witch hunting flame throwing dragon spamming ulgstamonsta, let me chip in some words here to backup the stuff "tsaishen" is slapping around your heads the past days.
My name is Alec Hahn, CEO and founder of Bitcoin42 (www.bitcoin42.com) and the freshly titled CEO of Gemspace. Please everybody understand that this is indeed a very ambitious project, and we are working very hard to be first hitters. The email communication issue was indeed a bit dumb, since a email forwarder was not set correctly to get notified about the domain registration information update.
I will soon make a more elaborated post. So please practice some patience and enjoy the ride in the meanwhile.
Best regards,
Alec
It indeed seems you have a location and contact info. It just needs to be checked on.
I really hope this is the real deal.
Only a large-scale popular movement toward decentralization and self-help can arrest the present tendency toward statism...
Eager to know more about this project
Hello,
What I will be detailing here is not intended to announce a DAC, but as I explained over here... https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15756.0/all.html
There doesn't seem to be an "announce your company" area, so this is where I promised to bring the discussion.
Please note that this is not intended as an announce.
It is just a way to quickly answer questions that the community has had regarding us.
I am posting here because I promised I would give a complete rundown detailing.
#1 Who we are
#2 What we have planned
#3 Why we are planning it
#4 How far along we are
#5 What we still need to do
#6 It's expected impact
#7 Roles that remain to be filled
I try to always keep my promises, and I'm usually really good about meeting deliverables.
My goal was to have this thread opened for discussion about 24 hrs ago.
That did not happen, because the domain we were using for internal email exchange went offline due to an ICANN related issue.
The actual issue was resolved almost immediately, but it appears that the internal communications within our company are still disrupted due to DNS caching of the previous state. We've been using SMS alot, but there is only so much you can convey in 255 characters.
In case you're wondering about the ICANN issue, someone forgot to confirm something during the domain registration & renewal process, and it unexpectedly wiped us off the internet for a few hours. We are now waiting for the internet to catch up. Thank you clayop for bringing the matter to my attention so quickly.
Since there is no way for me to create a moderated thread, I would like to ask that everyone hold off on asking questions on this thread until I've had a chance to clean it up and go a bit more expository. I'm thinking I can do that by Monday assuming Murphy's law doesn't strike again.
That should give me enough time to work out several fundamental technical items still on my plate (domains still not resolving, email down, equipment move etc). Once those are out of the way, I will hopefully have more space to go into greater depth about things.
It will also allow me time to invite the other members of the project into the discussion, so we are all here standing together and then you can ask us anything.
In the meantime, let me give you the gloss of it, because you have been so patient with us.
As you know from the topic of the thread, we are called gemspace.
GEMspace stands for Global Electronic Marketspace.
We had tried to come up with an acronym for the "SPACE" portion, but everything we tried ended up feeling a bit tortured.
gemspace is our official registered name on the blockchain, we also use globalelectronicmarket. globalelectronicmarket is used for running test transactions, whereas gemspace is the live "official" business account.
The company name is Gemspace Holdings Inc, but the registration paperwork has not returned from the state yet, so there is a possibility that this may change. It is a joint venture between several other companies who are all smaller, closely held companies from Wyoming, Colorado & California and a few international players as well. For legal & tax purposes we are incorporating in Wyoming, I'll update this posting to provide a link to the business registration once it's confirmed with the state.
The purpose of gemspace is to provide the world's first fully SEC compliant platform for small business to access the US capital markets.
We are operating under the JOBS Act, mostly Title III.
What makes us different from other "crowdfund" platforms is that we are building new technology to allow you to create fully compliant offerings and leverage the power of the blockchain. In essence we will be turning the blockchain into the official "share transfer register", for any company that launches through our service.
Furthermore, we are building an exchange site where investors will be able to swap shares into and out of other bitAssets such as bitUSD.
The exchange site will ride directly on top of the decentralized exchange already built into bitshares. Thus the exchange site itself is really more or less there to attract people who would otherwise not have an interest in cryptocurrencies.
The final piece of the puzzle is a gateway. Our gateway is a bit different than most. It isn't a "website" where you put in banking details etc. Instead we are creating new firmware that will run on top of the most popular ATM platforms to allow existing "bitcoin" ATMs to offer the full range of bitshares & bitassets. The goal is that an end user can go to the ATM, and buy or sell their bitassets directly for cash, in addition to processing their regular bitcoin business.
The gateway firmware project is being developed as part of the gemspace project, but at the technical level it is tied to bitshares, not gemspace.
This is necessary, because each country has it's own laws regarding the sale of equities and gemspace itself only targets compliance with US & Canadian laws.
In otherwords, we don't want an ATM owner in Brazil or Zimbabwe to be hemmed in by US law.
We just want to ensure he/she has the best platform possible to increase their sales.
There are other pieces of this puzzle as well, but these are the most important and highest profile at this time.
As you can probably guess, this is a monstrously complex undertaking.
The technology to make this work is my primary job and 20hr days have been the norm since March 25th.
My name is Devin Luker, I am known here as tsaishen (chinese money deity) and I am the CIO. Because making the technology comply with SEC regs is a huge part of what I do here, I've found myself in a cycle of constantly pivoting between what we CAN do from a technical standpoint and what we are ALLOWED to do from a legal standpoint.
As broadly sweeping as they are, the technical aspects are actually only a small part of the puzzle.
There are also business, legal and financial matters, that make up the bulk of what is going on behind the scenes.
For example, our original goal was to launch with a "vote for your favorite company" community site. Then we would take the top 10 each month and join them with an attorney who would walk them through the SEC registration process, from there we would give them compliance tech and let them manage it.
We found out at the 11th hour, that the way the rules now read, would not really allow for that model. This caused a business model pivot, that resulted in changes to requirements and of course the fundamental tech needs to be adapted to match.
So those of you who were expecting the voting thing, just be advised that voting is no longer a thing we will be doing at all.
Instead each company interested in listing will be fully vetted upfront, the opportunity screened and listed with the SEC directly.
In otherwords, you can just vote with your wallet.
The newer model is cleaner and simpler though. Speaking from a technical standpoint, the new model is actually easier for us to implement. From a business standpoint though, the compliance burden went up dramatically and this will result in a much slower on-boarding process.
We have a real advantage in the fact that the new SEC guidelines don't go into effect until 60 days after they were published in the federal register. This gives us a little breathing time to allocate more resources to optimizing the compliance pipeline.
Honestly though, it's not much time, and for the moment I'm wearing more than just the CIO hat, a certain chunk of the business planning work now falls to me. This is one of the main reasons I was seeking to purchase bitUSD and pay people up front for their efforts in our launch. By getting payroll sized up and allocated, there would be no problems with at least ensuring that at the end of the day we had no "accidental" volunteers as I've seen happen in so many other companies during pre-launch.
So this is a very high level overview of the 7 items I promised to discuss in depth and I realize that it barely only even touches on half of them.
It's currently 5:00 AM, I started writing this at 2:00 AM, I have a meeting at 6:00 AM and then I am physically moving equipment the rest of the day. I don't expect to be back online until around 8 or 9 PM which is when I have a skype with the rest of the tech team. I expect that to run until midnight, mostly because we will be doing a team coding session.
Sunday I will be working to stand up the website so we at least have a proper landing page for you guys to check out, then I'll hand over the landing page to marketing. Once that is complete, I will come back here and update this posting. I will eventually need to sleep, but the rest of the team is busier than I am. I am inviting them to come here and at least make introductions. We want you to know who we are, we're just a bit busier than we expected to be at this stage.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, and I'll see you Monday.
Scam.
How many total BTC ATM have you sold + installed?
Sorry if this is too intrusive. Just trying to get insight as to what have you done so far ( i.e. for about 1y ), and figure out how much time this project gonna take from now till actual results.
EDIT: Ps. I have been raised in Germany, so please forgive my grammar and spelling. Thanks
EDIT: Ps. I have been raised in Germany, so please forgive my grammar and spelling. Thanks
Hehe, keine Problem ;)
& Welcome on board Alec!
Dear Bitsharestalk members,
My name is Alec Hahn, CEO and founder of Bitcoin42 (www.bitcoin42.com) and the freshly titled CEO of Gemspace. Please everybody understand that this is indeed a very ambitious project, and we are working very hard to be first hitters. The email communication issue was indeed a bit dumb, since a email forwarder was not set correctly to get notified about the domain registration information update.
I will soon make a more elaborated post. So please practice some patience and enjoy the ride in the meanwhile.
Best regards,
Alec
Alec or tsaishen, can you elaborate how Gemspace has to do with BTS demand?
PS. Oh I'm really confused with Gemspace and Moonstone, calling Gemspace as Gemstone, and Moonstone as Moonspace. :P
Something tells me this is an alt-account created by someone who has been here awhile and they are attempting to pray on the desperate with the thoughts and dreams of success when BTS is at an all-time low in price and morale. It also seem that there are a few people blindly backing and accepting this guy despite the flags. This makes them either stupid, gullible, blind, or part of the scam. No offense of course.
Thanks. Just one more question. Are entrepreneurs supposed to create their IPO shares in short-name assets (3 to 5 character), which require 500k BTS? Or do they have an option to choose long company acronym, say 6 to 8 character?
Something tells me this is an alt-account created by someone who has been here awhile and they are attempting to pray on the desperate with the thoughts and dreams of success when BTS is at an all-time low in price and morale. It also seem that there are a few people blindly backing and accepting this guy despite the flags. This makes them either stupid, gullible, blind, or part of the scam. No offense of course.
Your advice is timely and should be well heeded. It is better to be careful then to regret later.
The OP should answer the questions raised by NewMine.
I think this sounds awesome.. +5%
These are some of my qustions:Looking forward to your reply!
- You say compliance with Canada.. however, the securities compliance for crowdfunds in Canada are provincial and not federal.. will that be the level of compliance you will accomplish?
- You say maw paw shops.. that suggests to me you are going to need boots on the ground so to speak to act as gateways/hand holders to these businesses that otherwise know nothing about this opportunity to crowdfund. does the business model incorporate regional partners?
- You mention seeking out existing ATM operators.. I have a friend in my area that owns many in this area and manages them from top to bottom. What would be the advantage to him to incorporate this into his existing ATMs..can he?
- I have tens of thousands of sq/ft of space in the bunker that would be ideal for assembly and/or distribution... need a Canadian distributor? Guaranteed to keep inventory safe under all conditions! ;D
Dear Bitsharestalk members,
Before this thread turn into a witch hunting flame throwing dragon spamming ulgstamonsta, let me chip in some words here to backup the stuff "tsaishen" is slapping around your heads the past days.
My name is Alec Hahn, CEO and founder of Bitcoin42 (www.bitcoin42.com) and the freshly titled CEO of Gemspace. Please everybody understand that this is indeed a very ambitious project, and we are working very hard to be first hitters. The email communication issue was indeed a bit dumb, since a email forwarder was not set correctly to get notified about the domain registration information update.
I will soon make a more elaborated post. So please practice some patience and enjoy the ride in the meanwhile.
Best regards,
Alec
if you or Alec Hahn could send a mail from bitcoin42's domain or if it checks you hold the number +52 664 235 777 3 (presented on bitcoin42's site) people would calm down and believe you :) at least you would have some kind of proof here, it could ease some minds
Dear Bitsharestalk members,
Before this thread turn into a witch hunting flame throwing dragon spamming ulgstamonsta, let me chip in some words here to backup the stuff "tsaishen" is slapping around your heads the past days.
My name is Alec Hahn, CEO and founder of Bitcoin42 (www.bitcoin42.com) and the freshly titled CEO of Gemspace. Please everybody understand that this is indeed a very ambitious project, and we are working very hard to be first hitters. The email communication issue was indeed a bit dumb, since a email forwarder was not set correctly to get notified about the domain registration information update.
I will soon make a more elaborated post. So please practice some patience and enjoy the ride in the meanwhile.
Best regards,
Alec
Hello Alec, I would suggest you give an emergency interview through Mumble. Fuzzy can help you introduce yourself to the community in a professional manner and give you an opportunity to expose your company and answer questions.
If you're not ready to do this then please don't be surprised by skepticism. Many people in the Bitcoin community have been burned by scams in the past.
If the Bitshares community determines Gemspace are legit then your company will receive a lot of support.
Dear Bitsharestalk members,
Before this thread turn into a witch hunting flame throwing dragon spamming ulgstamonsta, let me chip in some words here to backup the stuff "tsaishen" is slapping around your heads the past days.
My name is Alec Hahn, CEO and founder of Bitcoin42 (www.bitcoin42.com) and the freshly titled CEO of Gemspace. Please everybody understand that this is indeed a very ambitious project, and we are working very hard to be first hitters. The email communication issue was indeed a bit dumb, since a email forwarder was not set correctly to get notified about the domain registration information update.
I will soon make a more elaborated post. So please practice some patience and enjoy the ride in the meanwhile.
Best regards,
Alec
Hello Alec, I would suggest you give an emergency interview through Mumble. Fuzzy can help you introduce yourself to the community in a professional manner and give you an opportunity to expose your company and answer questions.
If you're not ready to do this then please don't be surprised by skepticism. Many people in the Bitcoin community have been burned by scams in the past.
If the Bitshares community determines Gemspace are legit then your company will receive a lot of support.
if you or Alec Hahn could send a mail from bitcoin42's domain or if it checks you hold the number +52 664 235 777 3 (presented on bitcoin42's site) people would calm down and believe you :) at least you would have some kind of proof here, it could ease some minds
was about to ask the same.
I'll verify you - askfav -at- gmail.com
Plus I'd like to know more about open positions and how you want to fill them.
if you or Alec Hahn could send a mail from bitcoin42's domain or if it checks you hold the number +52 664 235 777 3 (presented on bitcoin42's site) people would calm down and believe you :) at least you would have some kind of proof here, it could ease some minds
if you or Alec Hahn could send a mail from bitcoin42's domain or if it checks you hold the number +52 664 235 777 3 (presented on bitcoin42's site) people would calm down and believe you :) at least you would have some kind of proof here, it could ease some minds
this +5%
if you or Alec Hahn could send a mail from bitcoin42's domain or if it checks you hold the number +52 664 235 777 3 (presented on bitcoin42's site) people would calm down and believe you :) at least you would have some kind of proof here, it could ease some minds
this +5%
We both had a skype with Cryptoprometheus last week that resulted in the nullstreet journal article. In that interview we went to great lengths to explain who we are, what we are doing and we even demo'd one of the ATMs.
Alec verified the bitcoin42 domain with Favedesu too.
+5%if you or Alec Hahn could send a mail from bitcoin42's domain or if it checks you hold the number +52 664 235 777 3 (presented on bitcoin42's site) people would calm down and believe you :) at least you would have some kind of proof here, it could ease some minds
was about to ask the same.
I'll verify you - askfav -at- gmail.com
Plus I'd like to know more about open positions and how you want to fill them.
bitcoin42 sent an email confirming their identity.
if you or Alec Hahn could send a mail from bitcoin42's domain or if it checks you hold the number +52 664 235 777 3 (presented on bitcoin42's site) people would calm down and believe you :) at least you would have some kind of proof here, it could ease some minds
was about to ask the same.
I'll verify you - askfav -at- gmail.com
Plus I'd like to know more about open positions and how you want to fill them.
bitcoin42 sent an email confirming their identity.
Something tells me this is an alt-account created by someone who has been here awhile and they are attempting to pray on the desperate with the thoughts and dreams of success when BTS is at an all-time low in price and morale. It also seem that there are a few people blindly backing and accepting this guy despite the flags. This makes them either stupid, gullible, blind, or part of the scam. No offense of course.
Your advice is timely and should be well heeded. It is better to be careful then to regret later.
The OP should answer the questions raised by NewMine.
Sorry what questions? I read his post and I saw accusations that I felt really baseless. Never saw a single question, very few facts and just a lot of assertions.
Perhaps if he has a question he could post his question, like everyone else did.
Also nothing to regret, no one is asking for anything, not even credibility or permission.
We'll do as we like on our own schedule and structure our business according to our own needs.
I started this to explain who we are, what we are doing and how we plan to do it and what we've done so far.
It's a convenience to the community so they aren't caught off guard. I wish people would quit acting like we're trying to run a scam here, there's no scam. A scam would involve asking for something and I don't recall asking for anything but patience.
Despite the fact it's in the DAC section, we aren't a DAC and aren't seeking anything at all from the community.
Your expertise would be helpful as individuals and there are open positions that need to be filled. Filling those from within the community would be ideal, but it's still up to members to choose whether or not they are interested in having the employment.
It's in the DAC thread because there literally doesn't appear to be any place on this forum for anyone who wants to build a business around bitshares to announce themselves. If I'm wrong please point me in the proper direction or just move the thread to where it belongs.
Something tells me this is an alt-account created by someone who has been here awhile and they are attempting to pray on the desperate with the thoughts and dreams of success when BTS is at an all-time low in price and morale. It also seem that there are a few people blindly backing and accepting this guy despite the flags. This makes them either stupid, gullible, blind, or part of the scam. No offense of course.
Your advice is timely and should be well heeded. It is better to be careful then to regret later.
The OP should answer the questions raised by NewMine.
Sorry what questions? I read his post and I saw accusations that I felt really baseless. Never saw a single question, very few facts and just a lot of assertions.
Perhaps if he has a question he could post his question, like everyone else did.
Also nothing to regret, no one is asking for anything, not even credibility or permission.
We'll do as we like on our own schedule and structure our business according to our own needs.
I started this to explain who we are, what we are doing and how we plan to do it and what we've done so far.
It's a convenience to the community so they aren't caught off guard. I wish people would quit acting like we're trying to run a scam here, there's no scam. A scam would involve asking for something and I don't recall asking for anything but patience.
Despite the fact it's in the DAC section, we aren't a DAC and aren't seeking anything at all from the community.
Your expertise would be helpful as individuals and there are open positions that need to be filled. Filling those from within the community would be ideal, but it's still up to members to choose whether or not they are interested in having the employment.
It's in the DAC thread because there literally doesn't appear to be any place on this forum for anyone who wants to build a business around bitshares to announce themselves. If I'm wrong please point me in the proper direction or just move the thread to where it belongs.
I hate to say it, but if it bothers syou that you are looked at as a scam it is probably because you are in crypto, and preparing to do a crowdfunding campaign for a project. I am going to go out on a limb and say that everyone here has lost money to a scammer in crypto at some point so people offering services in this industry should have thick skin and be prepared to prove and defend themselves or consider something not so bleeding edge and unregulated.
Just like I've said in our background conversations, gaining trust is very important for every project. We are not bitcointalk.org where someone just posts an [ANN] and gets a hundred bitcoin thrown their way free of charge without questions or putting their rep on the line.
We have the structures in place that we have in place...for a reason.
With that said...Newmine is about as rough around the edges as it gets...but it does play it's own (oddly chaos invoking) role. I don't like admitting it all the time though...because I have learned a little bit of goes a long way :/
if you or Alec Hahn could send a mail from bitcoin42's domain or if it checks you hold the number +52 664 235 777 3 (presented on bitcoin42's site) people would calm down and believe you :) at least you would have some kind of proof here, it could ease some minds
was about to ask the same.
I'll verify you - askfav -at- gmail.com
Plus I'd like to know more about open positions and how you want to fill them.
bitcoin42 sent an email confirming their identity.
Any update on the gemspace website? I need something to look at and get hyped about. :P
Dear Bitshares Community,
I just sent out a msg to Fuzzy that we would like to join the mumble transmission not this, but coming Friday the 1.Mai. An fitting day to announce, and answer any questions the community might have.
All the best,
Alec from Bitcoin42
Ps. Please excuse the spacyness of our landing page currently. Like other, we don't want to got to the moon. We came from distant galaxies and want to land our ship on earth. ;)
We came from distant galaxies and want to land our ship on earth. ;)
Some of us prefer to be polite and hospitable to everyone when we first meet them.
There is plenty of time to vet a project and calmly declare "scam" later, if that's how it turns out.
(Screaming it at every new arrival is just what troll saboteurs want to do to keep us from growing.)
But there is only one chance to make a good first impression.
So the rest of us need to quickly steer them into our Welcome Center as soon as we see them.
Please help us refer newcomers to the new BitShares Chamber of Commerce where they will find a receptive and polite audience interested in hearing them out and helping them to make their case to the general forum.
First encounters are not where we want everyone to show how tough and suspicious they are.
We came from distant galaxies and want to land our ship on earth. ;)
Now you're speaking my language :) welcome!Some of us prefer to be polite and hospitable to everyone when we first meet them.
There is plenty of time to vet a project and calmly declare "scam" later, if that's how it turns out.
(Screaming it at every new arrival is just what troll saboteurs want to do to keep us from growing.)
But there is only one chance to make a good first impression.
So the rest of us need to quickly steer them into our Welcome Center as soon as we see them.
Please help us refer newcomers to the new BitShares Chamber of Commerce where they will find a receptive and polite audience interested in hearing them out and helping them to make their case to the general forum.
First encounters are not where we want everyone to show how tough and suspicious they are.
I'm not super familiar with the logistics of a reputation system, but we're trying to build a world where everyone starts out with a flawless reputation until they prove otherwise are we not?
You either believe everyone starts out at 100% reputation or 0% right? Perhaps there's a 50% option?
I'm personally really excited by what GEMSPACE is up to, and want to see it succeed at it's stated goals!
Reputations must be earned.
Civility to strangers is a Best Practice.
... but we're trying to build a world where everyone starts out with a flawless reputation until they prove otherwise are we not?
@fuzzy yes! :) From me no news for now. Got a horrible flu after a 22h flight from San Diego to Munich. But I will attend the first Munich Bitshares Meetup this Sunday, if anyone is interested to join there aswell. ;)Cool .. see you in munich .. hope you recover quickly!
any progress?Hi,
any progress?Hi,
Sorry everyone that our Gemspace Mumble hangout failed today due to connection issues. Anyhow, we'll be present next week.
Nevertheless, I would like to at least give a short status update.
Gemspace.net, the community driven platform for company presentations and initial evaluation will be online and ready for registration by end of next week.
Gemspace.io, the SEC database tied to decentralized Blockchain trading platform will follow soon after. This is the most challenging part to bring compliance, regulation and blockchain tech all together. We experience some issues with Bitshares, but Taulant showed up from Bitsapphier akf Moonstone and we had a first meet and greet. We found common grounds on at least one topic. We hope that this together with the upcoming Bts release will flatten out the pathways for Bitshares integration and a timely release.
Stay tuned and latest until next Friday.
Best,
Alec
Waiting for the update 8)Hi Fuzzy, Clayop and everyone else reading this.
Waiting for the update 8)Hi Fuzzy, Clayop and everyone else reading this.
We experienced a bunch of difficulties and delays. We are restructuring our team, and we hope this will bring us forward.
I will keep you in the loop, as soon we make some serious progress. There is at this point no sense blubbering around details.
Best regards,
Alec
Taulant from Moonstone offered his help, but there seemed to be a communication issue. We've been in contact with Daniel and co too, but they seem to be pretty overloaded as well.Waiting for the update 8)Hi Fuzzy, Clayop and everyone else reading this.
We experienced a bunch of difficulties and delays. We are restructuring our team, and we hope this will bring us forward.
I will keep you in the loop, as soon we make some serious progress. There is at this point no sense blubbering around details.
Best regards,
Alec
Are these difficulties BitShares related? Maybe we can be of assistance?!
Taulant from Moonstone offered his help, but there seemed to be a communication issue. We've been in contact with Daniel and co too, but they seem to be pretty overloaded as well.I am not 100% sure but I though there will be a public testing of the new version (testnet) also in June maybe early July .. but I may be mistaken here ..
But please feel free to get in contact with our magical code genie to find out how to help. devlux@gemspace.net (if he does not respond after 12h send the email again, because he most likely didn't get it in that case.)
It would be in fact very useful if we could get a a newer version built pre release. It should not face an issue since an NDA has been signed between Invictus Innovation and Gemspace.
Best,
Alec