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Quote from: Tuck Fheman on March 29, 2015, 01:16:54 amWell, that escalated quickly ...https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4/status/581671922640924672I'll be very interested to see if Hosk finds a way to make a better bitshares. His post here basically tells me that he respects the work done here and it also makes me think Ethereum is not looking so hot. Really a bit on the skeptical side of seeing a "better" bitshares being built though. I mean we already have bitshares...and if something comes out that implements a new feature or tweaks a few things here or there...and it ends up being better, then bitshares will just adopt it too. Just my opinions, but who knows.
Well, that escalated quickly ...https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4/status/581671922640924672
He is obviously feeling pretty down (and poor)...
Quote from: Douge on March 26, 2015, 12:03:52 amQuote from: uniqlo on March 24, 2015, 08:59:45 pmyou should thank me for opening this threadThank you injecting your profound wisdom into these discussions at our forum uniqlo. I'm sure that Dan is several lifetimes more enlightened now having read your pearls of wisdom. In fact, I hereby propose that the BitShares community officially vote to change our name from BitShares to UniquloShares. You should run for 100 delegates, you are certain to get awarded full pay due to the immense value that you provide our community and the world around us. I also propose that Dan take a hiatus from any affiliation with the uniquloShares project to to go on sabbatical to enlighten his soul with the great teachings of uniqulo. I also propose that we destroy any posts in this forum that are not originated by uniqulo.here here!All in favor say aye! Hare Uniqulo, Hare uniqulo, Rama Rama, Rama Hare, Hare Hare, Uniqulo Hare. (Singing it all day waiting for enlightment)
Quote from: uniqlo on March 24, 2015, 08:59:45 pmyou should thank me for opening this threadThank you injecting your profound wisdom into these discussions at our forum uniqlo. I'm sure that Dan is several lifetimes more enlightened now having read your pearls of wisdom. In fact, I hereby propose that the BitShares community officially vote to change our name from BitShares to UniquloShares. You should run for 100 delegates, you are certain to get awarded full pay due to the immense value that you provide our community and the world around us. I also propose that Dan take a hiatus from any affiliation with the uniquloShares project to to go on sabbatical to enlighten his soul with the great teachings of uniqulo. I also propose that we destroy any posts in this forum that are not originated by uniqulo.here here!All in favor say aye!
you should thank me for opening this thread
IIRC, this NDA was about the reason he was forced to leave, that it not ever be discussed. A Chinese partner of I3 made that clear here in the forum when CH was talking too much about it, but much of that discussion was retracted.
"The way Dan runs that company is it's a referendum on his political philosophy.""We're not here to prove Ludwig von Mises right or wrong, we're here to build a company. So we kind of butt heads a lot and at the end of the day one of us had to go.""By the way, Stan Larimer and Pam are some of the nicest people I have ever met in my life."
Quote from: Tuck Fheman on March 24, 2015, 09:55:18 pmQuote from: TurkeyLeg on March 24, 2015, 09:38:50 pmThank you Dan. Please continue your work and know that there is a large community of supporters who share you vision. We also share your desire to see BTS become a wild success!There will always be a vocal minority, and they have their own role to play. Onward and Upward!All I know is, I'm even more fired up about BitShares after hearing why Charles Hoskinson left. I missed all of that in the early days.Could you summarize his reason again? I doubt he would EVER reveal the true reason he left.
Quote from: TurkeyLeg on March 24, 2015, 09:38:50 pmThank you Dan. Please continue your work and know that there is a large community of supporters who share you vision. We also share your desire to see BTS become a wild success!There will always be a vocal minority, and they have their own role to play. Onward and Upward!All I know is, I'm even more fired up about BitShares after hearing why Charles Hoskinson left. I missed all of that in the early days.
Thank you Dan. Please continue your work and know that there is a large community of supporters who share you vision. We also share your desire to see BTS become a wild success!There will always be a vocal minority, and they have their own role to play. Onward and Upward!
Quote from: bitsharesblog.com on March 25, 2015, 07:09:42 pmWhat we do know is that CH signed a non-disclosure agreement when he left I3, so anything he said in that Youtube video is in fact not the actual reason he left.Not necessarily.. NDAs are generally about business itself.. personal opinions and fair comment on relationships and ideas are ok to go on and discuss at his pleasure. NDA might have taken issue if he had perhaps revealed some kind of details regarding some trade secret.. trade secret in the business vernacular that is.I did notice through out the hangout of all the things he discussed.. he gave praise to bitshares on a number of occasions.. and only noted one thing he thought could be done better.. the voting for delegates in our network. That's not news to us.. we all know there is room for improvement but there are more critical functions to deal with now.CH brought up a lot of things about bitcoin that you could tell in the hangout they did not like hearing. Someone even tried to suggest how 10 years from now people are still going to want to use bitcoin.. but CH shot down that idea.. I can see why they would not like to have him speak at conferences.. it's not unlike why these bitcoin conferences don't want to have bitshares on the scene.
What we do know is that CH signed a non-disclosure agreement when he left I3, so anything he said in that Youtube video is in fact not the actual reason he left.
Quote from: TurkeyLeg on March 25, 2015, 01:14:41 pmQuote from: bytemaster on March 25, 2015, 12:57:28 pmQuote from: Tuck Fheman on March 24, 2015, 09:55:18 pmQuote from: TurkeyLeg on March 24, 2015, 09:38:50 pmThank you Dan. Please continue your work and know that there is a large community of supporters who share you vision. We also share your desire to see BTS become a wild success!There will always be a vocal minority, and they have their own role to play. Onward and Upward!All I know is, I'm even more fired up about BitShares after hearing why Charles Hoskinson left. I missed all of that in the early days.Could you summarize his reason again? I doubt he would EVER reveal the true reason he left.CH said he was not interested in: DACSVolunteerismProving Austrian EconomicsCH said he was more concerned with:I3 InvestorsFiduciary ObligationGrowthROIQuotes:"The way Dan runs the company is that it is a referendum on his political philosophy.""We're not here to prove Mises right or wrong, we are here to grow a company. So we kind of butt heads a lot and one of us had to go.""By the way, Stan and Dan Larimer are some of the nicest people I have ever met in my life."He went on to praise DPOS, bitUSD, DEX and paid delegates quite a bit.If these points are in fact correct, I agree with CH on this. HIs focus is the more effective focus for the management of the organization in my opinion. I don't know what happened personally, but professionally I was concerned for BSTX when he left. He seemed to add a lot of solid business thinking, structure and strategy to the organization which we are currently sorely lacking. It seems like my concerns with his departure were quite well founded.
Quote from: bytemaster on March 25, 2015, 12:57:28 pmQuote from: Tuck Fheman on March 24, 2015, 09:55:18 pmQuote from: TurkeyLeg on March 24, 2015, 09:38:50 pmThank you Dan. Please continue your work and know that there is a large community of supporters who share you vision. We also share your desire to see BTS become a wild success!There will always be a vocal minority, and they have their own role to play. Onward and Upward!All I know is, I'm even more fired up about BitShares after hearing why Charles Hoskinson left. I missed all of that in the early days.Could you summarize his reason again? I doubt he would EVER reveal the true reason he left.CH said he was not interested in: DACSVolunteerismProving Austrian EconomicsCH said he was more concerned with:I3 InvestorsFiduciary ObligationGrowthROIQuotes:"The way Dan runs the company is that it is a referendum on his political philosophy.""We're not here to prove Mises right or wrong, we are here to grow a company. So we kind of butt heads a lot and one of us had to go.""By the way, Stan and Dan Larimer are some of the nicest people I have ever met in my life."He went on to praise DPOS, bitUSD, DEX and paid delegates quite a bit.
if bts has a capable team, bts will have gone much far. The biggest problem is too many ideas but only little execution.EDIT:I mean we need concern to finish the core things, no more new things before we stable the wallet and market tool.
I work every day from 8:30AM to 7PM along with 5 other developers to make BTS a success and that is just the developers.No one has more to lose from BTS failing than me and when people like wings are upset because they gave money to support a vision that is harder than they thought to achieve. If this were a "pump and dump" as wings has claimed then I would have sold when we hit $100M rather than held. I am not going to give up and continue to fight and learn.
you should thank me for opening this thread,otherwise he will never speak this and cheer you up.-5%
We're closer than ever to v1, we have a web wallet, a lightwallet, better marketing team, cleaner website, other promising projects like moonstone coming along. Forget the price, the market is clearly being irrational - those who understand Bitshares and its potential are quietly accumulating. Yes my Bitshares are making a "loss" but I believe in this projects success which is why I see it as an all or nothing scenario to be in.
Quote from: bytemaster on March 24, 2015, 12:52:21 pmI work every day from 8:30AM to 7PM along with 5 other developers to make BTS a success and that is just the developers.No one has more to lose from BTS failing than me and when people like wings are upset because they gave money to support a vision that is harder than they thought to achieve. If this were a "pump and dump" as wings has claimed then I would have sold when we hit $100M rather than held. I am not going to give up and continue to fight and learn. Wow... ..You have responded to a stupid post by someone who has less than 10 posts in the whole forum... I would have just responded very impolitely to the OP if I were you or would have just ignored it...That shows to me strong and good character! Keep fighting, you are not the only one..
Funny how folks are blind to the acceleration of the development cycle over the past month.The community needs to realize the current level of interaction is both normal and healthy.A weekly shareholder conference call and monthly newsletter is far more community interaction than the vast majority of start ups are willing to support.I am very happy to see the core devs focused and making a hard push to 1.0.As to the price of BTS, it's either an opportunity or a disaster. The difference is the amount of due diligence completed by the investor.
I am around and working harder than ever to add value.
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Are the principals on which BitShares were founded still relevant and being adhered to? More so than ever.Are the technological innovations represented by BitShares still relevant to the market? More so than ever.Is there a need to continue to innovate and evolve? More so than ever.Are the developers and community members (including BM) working their asses off to develop BitShares and prepare for the networking to come? More so than ever.Is any investor owed anything by this project in the short term? Absolutely not and it is utterly ridiculous to suggest otherwise.When BitShares is ready, the tiny group of parties within crypto that would like BitShares to fail will be irrelevant.Hard work, patience and resolve.
Quote from: speedy on March 24, 2015, 12:13:51 pmEverything Ive seen has shown BM is committed to creating value. These allegations of dumping are unfounded. I just have doubts about the direction of the project.As far as i can see,he didn't submit any commits since Mar 14.https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/commits/devshares?author=bytemaster
Everything Ive seen has shown BM is committed to creating value. These allegations of dumping are unfounded. I just have doubts about the direction of the project.
Mr Larimer should read his PMs.
http://thevalueswan.com/is-bitshares-undervalued-by-60-times-60x/
Wow, I may have to hand over my favorite motto...