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General Discussion / Re: Wow. That was a shitty day for bitshares
« on: November 04, 2015, 04:04:50 am »
Im not gonna lie. This consistently low price is depressing.

I really don't think the price will instantly or magically increase. If it does, be suspicious of manipulative whales. What we all need to do is hit the ground and promote the hell out of this thing, fueling some greater adoption, and get the momentum rolling to where businesses and customers WANT to use BitShares for various functions. Then we will see the kind of sustainable growth that has been so elusive in BitShares (or crypto in general). It won't happen this week or next month. But in a few months or a year or two, our efforts should be rewarded.

Get on it, people. Promoting BitShares is a 'part-time job' now for all of us. Imagine working at Google (or insert your favorite startup success story here) when they first got started with the promise that your options might be worth a great deal more someday. And that your technology could make the world a much better place. We can make it happen.

Customers and merchants don't care about Bitshares. The market for Bitshares are people who want to speculate or loan or park their money and collect some kind of yield or interest.

There isn't another decentralized exchange where people can do that. There are plenty of coins competing to get merchants and customers. If you can store your earnings in gold or silver that is something nothing else can offer right now.


Good point:

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The market for Bitshares are people who want to speculate or loan or park their money and collect some kind of yield or interest.

Speculators buy bitshares.  They do not value bts as highly as we think they should, though it is the second most traded coin at poloniex.  Right now speculators value btc above the alts because it bitcoin is the backbone and rosetta stone for all other blockchains. Speculators know that when dollars and yuan flow into the digital economy, they will do through bitcoin. The broad decline in alt coin prices suggest that speculators are selling their alt coins to capitalize on bitcoin's latest assent. When bitcoin settles down, speculators will exhale, and value will flow back into the alts with a vengeance.

I agree with this. I've seen it happen many times before but this only tends to happen after the price of Bitcoin passes a certain psychological pressure point. When Bitcoin is seen as "too expensive" then people start looking for other crypto. Usually they look to Litecoin, then Litecoin eventually is seen as expensive, so they might look to Ethereum, and down the line, until they reach other coins.

This rally is different from the previous ones though. The previous rallies had centralized exchanges, limited ability to get capital in and out, etc. The current rally has institutional investment which can shift in and out, and these investors only care about Bitcoin and do not care at all about the other technologies yet.

This would mean the people investing might not be smart enough about it like the previous more tech oriented generations of investors. The new generation might only see Bitcoin because of the Bitcoin ETF and similar, and might not be able to figure out how to put a few billion dollars into Bitshares.

For Bitshares to be successful Bitcoin would have to go to an ATH and stay there for quite a while so that people have enough time to absorb the different technologies. When Bitcoin reached $1000 a lot of people did start to learn about Mastercoin, Counterparty, Bitshares and other altcoins despite the fact that Bitcoiners at the time would call them all shitcoins.

It's probably only a matter of time before millions of new people come into the space and that is what will boost the Bitshares price because most of them will come from Bitcoin to diversify.

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General Discussion / Re: Wow. That was a shitty day for bitshares
« on: November 04, 2015, 03:50:38 am »
Well the good news is we're global, not just within the US. The Chinese are behind the bitcoin rise according to zerohedge. They could but bitBTC or bitgold with us. The question is, why aren't they?

Bring equity ownership to the GLOBAL MASSES.

Asia, Europe, Africa, America. Everyone can own a piece of something.

Equity crowd funding!

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General Discussion / Re: Wow. That was a shitty day for bitshares
« on: November 04, 2015, 03:49:21 am »
Easy, let's bring equity ownership to the masses. Everyone can own some equity using Bitshares.

There is no centralized institution encouraging equity ownership for the masses. Crowd funding is just becoming legal and it's perfect timing for Bitshares 2.0 which was just released. Why not jump on it?

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General Discussion / Re: Wow. That was a shitty day for bitshares
« on: November 04, 2015, 03:37:55 am »
BTS needs to be promoted as a tool of freedom that it is.    It needs to develop its own mini economy of people that are passionate about a common goal. Unfortunately, growing a community in such a manner is much slower than most would like.

I try and promote this as "Why save in USD in your Bank of America account when you can save diversified in Gold, Silver, Oil, USD etc with BitShares" or "Are you concerned about your currency being devalued or bail-ins? Try crypto and bank on yourself."

I think its a mistake to get too political. Look how poorly the libertarians do in elections these days. For some reason people dont care about liberty so much as what they think they're entitled to. The US is becoming a police state yet no one protested after snowdon's revelations, but they sure did in Berlin, Germany. Not in DC though.

I agree. At the same time Bitshares has to just work, and the bond market feature is missing which is perhaps more important to mass adoption than any other.

BTS needs to be promoted as a tool of freedom that it is.    It needs to develop its own mini economy of people that are passionate about a common goal.

Unfortunately, growing a community in such a manner is much slower than most would like.
A lot of people don't know what freedom is, and only half of Americans own stocks. Maybe focus on the half of Americans who don't own any stocks. Most Americans don't own any equity and you don't really have to appeal to ideology other than to look at the demographics that dont own and show them an easy way to acquire equity.

Maybe gamers for example who spend all day getting some digital item can now own digital property and acquire real wealth. This is an opportunity that never existed before for gamers or for people of the millennial demographic.

Focusing on politics is a mistake because a lot of young people aren't political or they just don't like politics. People see politics are involved and often run away from it because a lot of people don't want to have to deal with what comes along with politics, the risk of their lives being destroyed, the risk of upsetting the status quo. I think politics really limit the potential of any project when it's put into the branding of the project and it is why Bitcoin is replaced by Blockchain.

The reasoning being that most Americans aren't anarchists. Most Americans misunderstand what anarchist means, they don't have to be libertarians, they could be mainstream independents, or Bernie Sanders supporters, and still use an app if it's in their self interest. Why not appeal to self interest?




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General Discussion / Re: Wow. That was a shitty day for bitshares
« on: November 04, 2015, 03:36:13 am »
Im not gonna lie. This consistently low price is depressing.

I really don't think the price will instantly or magically increase. If it does, be suspicious of manipulative whales. What we all need to do is hit the ground and promote the hell out of this thing, fueling some greater adoption, and get the momentum rolling to where businesses and customers WANT to use BitShares for various functions. Then we will see the kind of sustainable growth that has been so elusive in BitShares (or crypto in general). It won't happen this week or next month. But in a few months or a year or two, our efforts should be rewarded.

Get on it, people. Promoting BitShares is a 'part-time job' now for all of us. Imagine working at Google (or insert your favorite startup success story here) when they first got started with the promise that your options might be worth a great deal more someday. And that your technology could make the world a much better place. We can make it happen.

Customers and merchants don't care about Bitshares. The market for Bitshares are people who want to speculate or loan or park their money and collect some kind of yield or interest.

There isn't another decentralized exchange where people can do that. There are plenty of coins competing to get merchants and customers. If you can store your earnings in gold or silver that is something nothing else can offer right now.

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General Discussion / Re: Short Term Roadmap
« on: November 04, 2015, 02:48:07 am »
Should brown excrements be offered in any thread you guys dare to post in?

This is the best news after 2.0  launched, and in many respects ever since 2.0 was announced. [in my as usual - not humble (but correct) opinion]
Most of the time like with Linux or anything when you have x.0 you're going to have a lot of bugs. It's usually not until x.1 or x.2 that you get a long term stable release. Just look at KDE 2.0, KDE 3.0, Gnome 2.0, Linux 2.0, and you'll see what I mean.

Improvements can be made to Bitshares and through iterative improvement it will grow in users.

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General Discussion / Re: Short Term Roadmap
« on: November 04, 2015, 02:46:13 am »
1.  Prevent margin call from being triggered unless the price feed is less than call price  (popular demand)
2.  Refund 99% of order placement fees on cancel
3.  Split order-fill fees with referrers for all trades involving BTS
4.  Launch a Demo/Dev chain that gives all signups a significant balance and an opportunity to play with all of the features.
+5%


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With all the new money flowing into BTC there will be corrections, crashes and profit taking, this is when the opportunity for BitAssets will present itself.

The best thing we can do now is create 'An idiots guide to trading BitAssets' (With pictures)

I also still think we need an internal market maker for BitUSD and BitCNY, even if the spread is REALLY wide.  People need confidence that they can exit easily even if they take a fairly big hit.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/
Why not make a post on How Stuff Works? Add pictures and explanations on how a person can make a legitimate profit using BitAssets.

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General Discussion / Re: Lets talk about fees again
« on: November 03, 2015, 09:30:58 am »
Imo, the make order/cancelled order fee should be made as low as possible (only nonzero to prevent spam).  For ALL users, not just lifetime.

I disagree.

Why even have a lifetime membership option if everyone gets the perks?

Such perks are the reason to buy the lifetime membership.

It also says, "Hey BTS Community, I'm here to stay!".


"Perks" should level up slowly and some perks should be unlocked by doing various tasks (like retweeting a bitshares advertisement each day you log in).  You should be able to earn perks as well as paying for them...and there should be a couple tiers.  This might not be achievable via blockchain, but it wont need to be if a third party service offers it and uses the referral income to help level things out...


this is a great post.
+5%

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If the blockchain can issue such IOU and lock up the real BTC,
How is 'the blockchain' supposed to lock up real BTC?

What about https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_burn ? But I am not sure whether this kind of irreversible lock will have economical sense

Second approach: I am also wandering whether multisig could help. Real BTC funds would be secured by two private keys. One private key would be from the issuer, who would send his public key to the network. The second public key... would come somehow from the bitshares network.

Is it possible, that each witness would have only some part of private key? I am thinking about the way... that private key of bitshares network would be used only when witnesses will have consensus...i.e. that there was a transaction, and the issuer want to withdraw his bitcoins.

To be honest, I am not 100% sure, how multisig works... so please be gentle and explain me, what in this idea is wrong, if this is actually impossible.

Time lock encryption does make it possible to lock up Bitcoins in the blockchain for a period of time. It could probably be modified to be a list of conditions which unlock it but still because Bitcoin is a separate blockchain it's not so easy to do this.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Tokenly Merchant Ecosystem Worker Proposal
« on: November 01, 2015, 05:57:43 pm »
Support!  +5%

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General Discussion / Re: We could develop a bitshares_mmm to help fuzzy
« on: November 01, 2015, 01:52:25 pm »
Hello! Do you want to help fuzzy with MMM?
- What is MMM?
  - What is all about?
  - What is it (MMM)?
  - How much (money) can I get / recieve / earn?
MMM — is a mutual network, where people provide money help directly to
  each other in automatic Private Offices via internet with growing help
  index Mavro. The Power of Giving lets you receive in 23 times more than
  you gave to others in a year!!!
        - I want to join.
  - I want to get help / money.
  - How to join? / How to get registered?
Do you have friend who invited you to MMM or his/her referral link?
  Give me, please, your e-mail and Name, and I will send you all instructions to your e-mail, register you in the System and will help you with all steps. Your WeChat, QQ and Skype will be very usefull too. IT IS ABSOLUTELY FREE OF CHARGE!
        - What's next?
  - How to give help?
  - How to get help?
  - How to get / earn money?
Your registration is done. Check your mail (spam folder too) — there you will find the letter with password setting link. And I will sent you the e-mail with all the instructions from me and my contacts.- How to... ?

Isn't this exactly what Bytemaster and others mentioned with the mutual aid society idea? Why hasn't Bytemaster commented on it since? It might now be possible to implement it and it's a good time to do it.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=3810.0

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General Discussion / Re: If you are a Brownie holder
« on: November 01, 2015, 01:49:54 pm »
Please reply to this thread.
Yes.

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SEC Approves Title III of JOBS Act, Equity Crowdfunding with Non-Accredited

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chancebarnett/2015/10/30/sec-approves-title-iii-of-jobs-act-equity-crowdfunding-with-non-accredited/
I wonder what Bytemaster and Stan think of this?

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Tauchain is supposed to interact with Agoras and Agoras has a token. Although it doesn't require a token to run, having a token seems necessary to provide incentive for humans and machines to evolve the network.

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