To the Chinese community and Mess and any that I missed, do you realize that Invictus/Stan no longer have absolute control over PTS, because it is an opensource distributed network? So they no longer have the power to destroy or replace it with an upgrade, like an app in the appstore. Instead of screaming centralization and throwing around some rather serious allegations could you propose alternatives that would please you?

Incrementally updating PTS via consecutive hard forks and new wallets into the proposed DPOS PTS2.0 variant doesn't sound feasible to me. It would also take too long and cost too much.

They can't kill off PTS1, because they really can't, it's out of their hands, it is no longer theirs to kill.

So the quickest route to upgrade to DPOS (which is also the same as releasing the new tech you've been waiting for/investing in) is to go with the proposed snapshot-copy and release of PTS2.0 while effectively still leave all the power and choice to the community, because they do not have absolute control over you or the other participants. Now here's the thing with PoS, to work with the stake it needs to be there, you have to know the total amount to even be able to talk about a stake in the first place. So that leaves the issue with the remaining coins and how to solve that. What should be done with those extra coins that will give you the most return in the long run?

Distributing the remaining shares to PTS-holders is not fair to the would be miners, miningpools and electricity companies, because those are the one that would have earned that value. It also wouldn't be fair to all speculators, because they decided the price on the fact of there being a total of 2 million plus 1% inflation. It also isn't fair to AGS-investors, because they have really paid for the development of the tech and value of PTS and apparently misused it for speculation as well, which means the relative share-distribution can't change anymore either.

Distributing to AGS is unfair to PTS-holders.

So this leaves two options I can think of either distribute to both AGS and PTS holders evenly or use it in marketing and adding more value to your current investment. Pumping up the value of your worthless shares instead of giving you more worthless shares, doesn't sound to bad. As long as it doesn't pay for wages it sounds like Mess would be okay with it.

I'm not meaning to offend, but it sure does sound like people are complaining for all the wrong reasons and actually trying to hurt themselves more than they realize.

Quote from: shi512928605 on May 12, 2014, 10:51:45 am

感觉不错 马上要上网关了 BTC等其他货币可以交易了 去中心化的哦

去中心化只是个口号，难的是解决现实问题。

你花2000元法币，找个nxt网关买入2000元价值的nxt筹码，然后朋友约你出去吃个饭。回来后，你买到的nxt筹码变成了1600元了，咋办？你原来能买价值2000的btc，跟朋友吃饭后只能买1600元的btc了。
你在中心化交易所充值2000法币，两天后，还是2000法币啊。

没有锚定币值的去中心化，就是耍流氓。经济活动最基本的需求就是避免交易过程的损耗。没有锚定机制带来的波动远远超过了去中心化带来的便利。这也是虚拟币难以吸引大资金的原因，资金不敢停留太久