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Main => General Discussion => Topic started by: alt on April 28, 2015, 12:01:58 am

Title: don't change too much before we have enough user to join the market
Post by: alt on April 28, 2015, 12:01:58 am
no rules can work good before enough people join the market
I beg you don't change too much about the market engine, before you can release a real user friendly client.

now there are more people than before can join the wallet market, it's get better,
and the fiat gateway of CNY is much better
all we need is a user friendly client, then much more people can join.
Title: Re: don't change too much before we have enough user to join the market
Post by: alt on April 28, 2015, 12:06:17 am
if we release rule B,rule C
the users  will be split , I think we'll drop down continue
Title: Re: don't change too much before we have enough user to join the market
Post by: mike623317 on April 28, 2015, 12:14:27 am
no rules can work good before enough people join the market
I beg you don't change too much about the market engine, before you can release a real user friendly client.

now there are more people than before can join the wallet market, it's get better,
and the fiat gateway of CNY is much better
all we need is a user friendly client, then much more people can join.

I agree... evolution, not revolution. Slow, stable, concrete change that works without bugs build confidence.
Title: Re: don't change too much before we have enough user to join the market
Post by: clayop on April 28, 2015, 12:24:36 am
But recent problem seems an important issue. Someday we will meet bear market again, and bitAssets cannot achieve pegging again.
IMO, Moonstone will relieve eagerness for the stable client.
Title: Re: don't change too much before we have enough user to join the market
Post by: alt on April 28, 2015, 12:25:13 am
the full wallet is for delegate, for service  provider, not for normal users
so don't spent too much time at the UI, and don't complain it about UI,
I only wish it can provide stable RPC call service, and it's good enough for me.

normal user need a light wallet, a web wallet, a mobile wallet
we should spent much more time to improve the User Interface for these light wallet.
I have provide some demo service for this target:
1) a push service data gateway for BTS
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15762.new.html#new
2) a friendly order book for PC
https://btsbots.com/wmarket
3) a friendly order book for mobile
https://btsbots.com/mobile

I wish we can focus our energy to make a user friendly light client first.

Title: Re: don't change too much before we have enough user to join the market
Post by: alt on April 28, 2015, 12:26:58 am
I think version 0.9 have resolved  much.
If it's not, we can fixed it with few change, not build a new one at this time
and too few people join the market is a very important reason for this issue.

But recent problem seems an important issue. Someday we will meet bear market again, and bitAssets cannot achieve pegging again.
IMO, Moonstone will relieve eagerness for the stable client.
Title: Re: don't change too much before we have enough user to join the market
Post by: donkeypong on April 28, 2015, 12:29:28 am
We either need to pay for more users or pay for more infrastructure integration. Without one, the other won't happen, and vice versa. Sometimes, change is good and it's even necessary. The fundamental system is the same. Opportunity here is ripe for the picking.
Title: Re: don't change too much before we have enough user to join the market
Post by: clayop on April 28, 2015, 12:30:19 am
I think version 0.9 have resolved  much.
If it's not, we can fixed it with few change, not build a new one at this time

But recent problem seems an important issue. Someday we will meet bear market again, and bitAssets cannot achieve pegging again.
IMO, Moonstone will relieve eagerness for the stable client.

BitUSD is still not pegged... It's not the matter of stable version but the matter of market rules.
Title: Re: don't change too much before we have enough user to join the market
Post by: alt on April 28, 2015, 12:36:12 am
Bitshares based market consensus
enough people, enough market competition is the basic for Bitshares
I doubt there are 1/100 share holders have join the wallet market
I don't mean new user, I mean the user who  already have share.

without enough competition, the result is not make much sense, 
I don't think  we have much problem at the market engine,
but without a user friendly client is definitely a big problem


We either need to pay for more users or pay for more infrastructure integration. Without one, the other won't happen, and vice versa. Sometimes, change is good and it's even necessary. The fundamental system is the same. Opportunity here is ripe for the picking.
Title: Re: don't change too much before we have enough user to join the market
Post by: alt on April 28, 2015, 12:37:24 am
market engine for v0.9 still not launch, it will happen at 5.5
It have protect expired cover order at feed price, so I think it have resolved the issue much.
I think version 0.9 have resolved  much.
If it's not, we can fixed it with few change, not build a new one at this time

But recent problem seems an important issue. Someday we will meet bear market again, and bitAssets cannot achieve pegging again.
IMO, Moonstone will relieve eagerness for the stable client.

BitUSD is still not pegged... It's not the matter of stable version but the matter of market rules.