I vote for steem like witness payouts to attract steem witnesses.
For several months they have developed a very strong witness following. Very few have ventured into bitshares in some part due to the lack of incentives to do so. Many witneses there are skilled developers and have contributed significant apps to the steem in order to win their approval.
I believe if rewards were high we would see the likes of @arhag come back.. and other new witnesses in steem who could take some of what they have done with steem and reapply it to bitshares.
I am quite confident this could be a significant turnaround.. it does however require more communication from the Chinese. If it is an uphill battle to gain votes from the chinese proxies who control the majority of voting power then they could be turned off.
Aside from attracting new blood, this provides considerable funds to consider incorporating paid price feed data from various sources. So with this I also think it raises the bar for witnesses in bitshares to improve on what they provide. This was what I talked about recently when there was discussion surrounding the feed data.
Raise the standards for bitshares, we raise the quality and increase our value prop.
So with that, as a Committee member, at present I am supporting a raise of 8BTS per /block payout for these reasons given primarily. If you wish to also support these types of reasons, then set your vote for Committee member to Bunkerchainlabs-com.
If the increase is only a doubling or a half measure, I don't believe we will see any significant changes at all. You can't catch your breath only making half effort from being underwater. We either go all the way to effect results or not get above the water at all.
This is my current thinking on the matter. I am open to listening to others take on this and to be swayed otherwise to be shown some other amount being able to breath air into bitshares.
I tend to disagree to increase witness pay, on the opposite, perhaps it's better to decrease it. Witnesses are investing into the system, they're not pure employees.
In many cases higher wage doesn't bring higher performance.
We need a HR department to review every employee's performance, including witnesses' and workers' and perhaps committee members', say, give them a basic wage, then a bonus depending on their performance.
I tend to disagree to increase witness pay, on the opposite, perhaps it's better to decrease it. Witnesses are investing into the system, they're not pure employees.
In many cases higher wage doesn't bring higher performance.
We need a HR department to review every employee's performance, including witnesses' and workers' and perhaps committee members', say, give them a basic wage, then a bonus depending on their performance.
An HR department type setup is something I have been encouraging for a while. Put the hiring, firing, management of the workers in their hands so that real measures can be done, and greater accountability.
I think the pay pressure is going to increase the need for accountability.. I think there will be less tolerance for 'lazy witnesses' after this while at the same time heating up the competition. If the objective is to get new blood, better feed data, and make being a witness something that people are striving to be best at because there is a clear reward for it, then this will help accomplish that. I think the change in the rate is going to change the culture significantly.
I agree that the wage of witness now is too low, but I suggest that the income should be adjusted automatically according to the current network load, say"work more, get more".
I agree that the wage of witness now is too low, but I suggest that the income should be adjusted automatically according to the current network load, say"work more, get more".
Interesting discussion about the witness pay. I would like to see the following:
- A financial breakdown how the witness pay increase will influence worker budgets
- Leasson learned from high Witness Pay on Steemit
- Active Witness Screening - Who is a "lazy" Witness? (Gchicken?)
- Recruit excited Witnesses here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1708476.0
As Committee Member I am supporting an increase in Witness Pay when we can define a clearer standard how witnesses should operate. Tools like Steemit could be used to showcase "lazy" witnesses and earn reward money for the research. I want to avoid to cut worker budget to pay more for lazy witnesses.
That also the BitShares community needs to come together and help us with creating a healthy network. The Graphene chain competition will force us all to react.
Additionally I will bring up this topic on the next BitShares Mumble on Friday for open discussion.
Interesting discussion about the witness pay. I would like to see the following:
- A financial breakdown how the witness pay increase will influence worker budgets
- Leasson learned from high Witness Pay on Steemit
- Active Witness Screening - Who is a "lazy" Witness? (Gchicken?)
- Recruit excited Witnesses here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1708476.0
As Committee Member I am supporting an increase in Witness Pay when we can define a clearer standard how witnesses should operate. Tools like Steemit could be used to showcase "lazy" witnesses and earn reward money for the research. I want to avoid to cut worker budget to pay more for lazy witnesses.
That also the BitShares community needs to come together and help us with creating a healthy network. The Graphene chain competition will force us all to react.
Additionally I will bring up this topic on the next BitShares Mumble on Friday for open discussion.
If I'm correct it's another guy used the similar name for that project.Interesting discussion about the witness pay. I would like to see the following:
- A financial breakdown how the witness pay increase will influence worker budgets
- Leasson learned from high Witness Pay on Steemit
- Active Witness Screening - Who is a "lazy" Witness? (Gchicken?)
- Recruit excited Witnesses here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1708476.0
As Committee Member I am supporting an increase in Witness Pay when we can define a clearer standard how witnesses should operate. Tools like Steemit could be used to showcase "lazy" witnesses and earn reward money for the research. I want to avoid to cut worker budget to pay more for lazy witnesses.
That also the BitShares community needs to come together and help us with creating a healthy network. The Graphene chain competition will force us all to react.
Additionally I will bring up this topic on the next BitShares Mumble on Friday for open discussion.
What is this? Moonstone has launched it's own graphene chain? Hmmm...
I've been running a witness node almost since the beginning of BTS-2, and I'm against increasing witness rewards at this time. The cost for running a sufficiently reliable node (or two) is covered by the rewards, even taking some hands-on time into account. I hope this will change in the future (meaning more network load), and if the BTS exchange rate does not rise along with its utilization we should talk about raising rewards, but not now.
I am, however, strongly in favour of separating the role of block producer from the role of submitting price feeds. As others have pointed out, running a reliable server requires different kinds of expertise than providing a "correct" (whatever that may be) feed.
I've been running a witness node almost since the beginning of BTS-2, and I'm against increasing witness rewards at this time. The cost for running a sufficiently reliable node (or two) is covered by the rewards, even taking some hands-on time into account. I hope this will change in the future (meaning more network load), and if the BTS exchange rate does not rise along with its utilization we should talk about raising rewards, but not now.
I am, however, strongly in favour of separating the role of block producer from the role of submitting price feeds. As others have pointed out, running a reliable server requires different kinds of expertise than providing a "correct" (whatever that may be) feed.
the poll ended, finally totally 20 for increasing to 3/5/8 BTS, 9 object and 2 for other choices.
now I tend to push 4 BTS as a compromise. hope that can be accepted by all the parties.
the poll ended, finally totally 20 for increasing to 3/5/8 BTS, 9 object and 2 for other choices.
now I tend to push 4 BTS as a compromise. hope that can be accepted by all the parties.
could you increase the network fees too?
I mean, chinese exchanges introduced trading fees, so chinese community should have no problem with adjusted fees, right?
the poll ended, finally totally 20 for increasing to 3/5/8 BTS, 9 object and 2 for other choices.
now I tend to push 4 BTS as a compromise. hope that can be accepted by all the parties.
could you increase the network fees too?
I mean, chinese exchanges introduced trading fees, so chinese community should have no problem with adjusted fees, right?
the poll ended, finally totally 20 for increasing to 3/5/8 BTS, 9 object and 2 for other choices.
now I tend to push 4 BTS as a compromise. hope that can be accepted by all the parties.
could you increase the network fees too?
I mean, chinese exchanges introduced trading fees, so chinese community should have no problem with adjusted fees, right?
however I haven't saw the necessity to increase trading fees.
Is there any numerical analyzes regarding financial effects of such change. It will certainly increase dilution rate. Buy what figure.
Is it going to be increased for certain amount of time or until curtain market evaluation reach.
If I may say so, there is no actual market set for witnesses. They all should compete for witness role. From recognizable names thru quality of produced blocks and price feeds, etc.. Standards of accomplishment should be rise so as the reword. Could it all be built in some kind of smart contract. Since they are payed in BTS their steady income flow depend of BTS market valuation. Probably best solution would be that
witnesses are paid in bitUSD or any other bitasset.
Those decisions should be carefully evaluated. I don't see any careful evaluation.
Is there any numerical analyzes regarding financial effects of such change. It will certainly increase dilution rate. Buy what figure.
Is it going to be increased for certain amount of time or until curtain market evaluation reach.
If I may say so, there is no actual market set for witnesses. They all should compete for witness role. From recognizable names thru quality of produced blocks and price feeds, etc.. Standards of accomplishment should be rise so as the reword. Could it all be built in some kind of smart contract. Since they are payed in BTS their steady income flow depend of BTS market valuation. Probably best solution would be that
witnesses are paid in bitUSD or any other bitasset.
Those decisions should be carefully evaluated. I don't see any careful evaluation.
when I wrote, the BTS supply is 2580740816(reserve pool not included), so 4BTS means 1.6% annual dilution rate.
today's total avaliable budget: 305566 BTS. in which 68961(22.6%) are paide to 3 real worker and the left is for one refund worker.
4BTS means 115200 BTS daily payment to witness.
the current competition is based on voting, it is not perfect, a smart contract sounds wonderful, but it's not easy and implement. for example, one critiria of how well the witness work is the accuracy of the price feeding, how to evaluate the accuracy of price feeding by smart contract? increasing witness payment is incentive to better witness work including more accuracy price feeding, and higher witness payment will make the proxy more strict on voting from more candidates.
for payment in BitUSD, there are already many discussion on pay BitUSD for worker proposal, but one problem is how to supply enough bitUSD. no satisfactory solution up to now. and as active witnesses is a dynamic group, the number and members of the group may change now and then, it is not a big problem to just pay in BTS.
we have done some discussion and evaluation, it is not accurate but senseful, and the conclusion is:
1. to encourage the witnesses to pay senseful more cost and effort on witness work, we need at least double the witness pay.
2. the dilution that a 4BTS witness pay bring is acceptable.
this may be not a perfect solution, but it is feasible, senseful and can be implemented in not long time.
Before I approve a higher pay for witnesses I demand some actions and willingness by the current witnesses to actually do more.
I dont want to pay witnesses more upfront .. neither do we pay workers upfront ..
Before I approve a higher pay for witnesses I demand some actions and willingness by the current witnesses to actually do more.
I dont want to pay witnesses more upfront .. neither do we pay workers upfront ..
IMO it is pointless to expect witnesses to produce a "better" or "more accurate" or "more stable" pricefeed as long as there is no agreement about what that means.
The reality is that the prices differ on the exchanges, and not even in a consistent way (e.g. the price BTS -> CNY may be different from BTS -> USD -> CNY or BTS -> BTC -> CNY).
IMO it is pointless to expect witnesses to produce a "better" or "more accurate" or "more stable" pricefeed as long as there is no agreement about what that means.
The reality is that the prices differ on the exchanges, and not even in a consistent way (e.g. the price BTS -> CNY may be different from BTS -> USD -> CNY or BTS -> BTC -> CNY).
Very disappointed the meat of the discussion & debate is being held on Telegram and not here. I have tried to be involved there but it's difficult and time consuming scrolling through all the discussions that are intermixed over the course of hours.This and this and .... THIS!
I saw your comment there @bitcrab about their fickle response to increase, ask for 3 BTS option then they recant and say none. I'm specifically referring to @kenCode. Shit I can't even prove he did that since it's ancient history on Telegram. Is that why he won't discuss here on the forum?
I think it's ridiculous, especially in light of the increase in DEX use, and long time working for essentially poverty level wages. Everyone wants "more passion" More work but aren't willing to say what that means; you are an exception @bitcrab, tho IMHO the criteria should be even broader than you've expressed.
I think I saw @tbone mention the inclusion on the testnet as a witness requirement. Not a bad idea, especially for standby witnesses. I have refrained from participation on the testnet due to the cost of an additional VPS, a high end VPS of AT LEAST 8GB and more likely to be realistic at least 16GB or more for performance testing.
I approve testnet participation as a requirement for witnesses, however I will probably have to cut out half of my seed nodes. If the 3BTS increase is voted in, I will re-evaluate. Asking me to support 4 nodes plus a high end node for testnet is a bit much for 3BTS. Also consider the significant increase of time required to participate in the testnet.
This witness pay issue and the "secret room" nature of it being conducted PRIMARILY in real time on Telegram and not for the wider community here on the forum (and for people in the future) is very sad. I've been hanging in there waiting for more activity in general, and @kenCode and his team have been one of the most aggressive in moving forward with further development, but I'm barely making any profit maintaining 4 full nodes.
I believe he refuses to consider the bigger picture of global witness concerns. To push an agenda of lower witness pay (by not keeping up with increasing costs) without consideration for the range of costs involved IN ALL AREAS OF THE GLOBE, INCLUDING NORTH AMERICA, is not good. He has refused to respond to my post that challenges him to show how HE could sustain HIS lifestyle on witness pay alone. He can't. Subsidizing a witness "business" is necessary for all but wage earners in the poorest economies. I see it similarly to the US subsidizing corporations through incentives to outsource their operations to countries with lower labor costs. Some things that makes perfect sense to do, for others it's cost cutting, profit seeking, short sided, near term thinking and the future be damned.
As for all those "silent" witnesses that fail to participate or provide feeds, the only recourse I can see to get their attention is voting them out. For all potential standby witnesses I really want to see them participate in the testnet, especially since that is the only way standby's can publish price feeds and perfect their scripts.
Thank you @bitcrab and @tbone for a reasonable voice in all this.
I think it's ridiculous, especially in light of the increase in DEX use, and long time working for essentially poverty level wages.
Sorry @Thom I didn't know you were expecting a reply from me. You had stated your case, and I stated mine, so I figured there was no sense in me spending any more time in the discussion. Sorry man, was not trying to avoid you or anything, have just been very busy.
Thanks @Thom for what you have done as witness, but anyway please calm down.
many discussion happened in Telegram as it is an instand messenger so many people like the convenience, however it is just discussion, to make decision we always need open discussion and voting.
I have also considered 5BTS or 8BTS as an option, after some open discussion and the poll I decided to propose 4BTS. then I found many shareholder prefer 3BTS, I think it is good to let the community select from no change, 3BTS and 4BTS by voting, that's what had happened.
now 3BTS get most support, however we still have 9 days for voting, 4BTS option still has chance to win. if you believe 4BTS is better, you can try to talk with proxies to get support from them.
There has always been talk about adding additional price feeds such as stocks. If we raise the block reward what about requiring these additional feeds? Being able to play with stocks would be a nice incentive to use BitShares!Creating indices for stock (market pegged asset) is a business opportunity and can make the issuer a profit from trading fees. Thus I would think that it should be in his interest to set his own feed producers (which he can) and pay them for the service of providing an accurate feed
There has always been talk about adding additional price feeds such as stocks. If we raise the block reward what about requiring these additional feeds? Being able to play with stocks would be a nice incentive to use BitShares!Creating indices for stock (market pegged asset) is a business opportunity and can make the issuer a profit from trading fees. Thus I would think that it should be in his interest to set his own feed producers (which he can) and pay them for the service of providing an accurate feed
And thats why it is a business opportunity. Someone willing to work on providing liquidity for his own market pegged asset can make a profit from trading fees ... committee owned mpas dont have a market fee and no one that benefits from marketing them (except for outside fees)There has always been talk about adding additional price feeds such as stocks. If we raise the block reward what about requiring these additional feeds? Being able to play with stocks would be a nice incentive to use BitShares!Creating indices for stock (market pegged asset) is a business opportunity and can make the issuer a profit from trading fees. Thus I would think that it should be in his interest to set his own feed producers (which he can) and pay them for the service of providing an accurate feed
I think @Brekyrself was referring to adding additional network-issued MPAs and expecting/requiring witnesses to provide feeds for those assets in order to help justify higher pay.
I like this idea in theory. But unfortunately there isn't enough focus on liquidity, so I'm not confident we're making enough progress on that front to expect additional MPAs will ever become viable.
There has always been talk about adding additional price feeds such as stocks. If we raise the block reward what about requiring these additional feeds? Being able to play with stocks would be a nice incentive to use BitShares!Creating indices for stock (market pegged asset) is a business opportunity and can make the issuer a profit from trading fees. Thus I would think that it should be in his interest to set his own feed producers (which he can) and pay them for the service of providing an accurate feed
I think @Brekyrself was referring to adding additional network-issued MPAs and expecting/requiring witnesses to provide feeds for those assets in order to help justify higher pay.
I like this idea in theory. But unfortunately there isn't enough focus on liquidity, so I'm not confident we're making enough progress on that front to expect additional MPAs will ever become viable.
I am sure now the service will be improved...lol..If nothing changes to the service provided and feeds are wrong again I hope that you guys consider to go back to the 1.5bts and fire some bad witnesses..
Better get the 10 others here sooner than later.I am sure now the service will be improved...lol..If nothing changes to the service provided and feeds are wrong again I hope that you guys consider to go back to the 1.5bts and fire some bad witnesses..
+5% +5% +5%
Line'm up, I'm happy to do the firing.
Where there's a slacker, I can always find 10 others hungry to prove themselves.
I doubt there are more person who want to join.So, increase the pay more?
I'm very surprised even business team such as openledger or blockpay don't interested in these things.
no vote proxy, no community, no witness.
Recent activity (export to .csv)
OPERATION INFO
TRANSFER
delegate.btsnow sent 35,999 BTS to btsnow
last year - 42.10936 BTS
CREATE WITNESS
delegate.btsnow was upgraded to become a witness
last year - 5,000 BTS
CLAIM BALANCE
delegate.btsnow claimed a balance of 1.52398 BTS
last year - 0 BTS
CLAIM BALANCE
delegate.btsnow claimed a balance of 41,039.91616 BTS
last year - 0 BTS
I am sure now the service will be improved...lol..If nothing changes to the service provided and feeds are wrong again I hope that you guys consider to go back to the 1.5bts and fire some bad witnesses..
+5% +5% +5%
Line'm up, I'm happy to do the firing.
Where there's a slacker, I can always find 10 others hungry to prove themselves.
I doubt there are more person who want to join.How about chainsquad.com?
I'm very surprised even business team such as openledger or blockpay don't interested in these things.
no vote proxy, no community, no witness.
increase pay more? are you kidding me?I probably just missed him .. have a link where i can find more about him?
tell me how much pay will delegate.btsnow give the feed price?
and I want to ask xeroc why you vote for this witness but not witness.yao, xn-delegate?Code: [Select]Recent activity (export to .csv)
OPERATION INFO
TRANSFER
delegate.btsnow sent 35,999 BTS to btsnow
last year - 42.10936 BTS
CREATE WITNESS
delegate.btsnow was upgraded to become a witness
last year - 5,000 BTS
CLAIM BALANCE
delegate.btsnow claimed a balance of 1.52398 BTS
last year - 0 BTS
CLAIM BALANCE
delegate.btsnow claimed a balance of 41,039.91616 BTS
last year - 0 BTS
the question is who is delegate.btsnow and why do you support him even he never publish one price feed?increase pay more? are you kidding me?I probably just missed him .. have a link where i can find more about him?
tell me how much pay will delegate.btsnow give the feed price?
and I want to ask xeroc why you vote for this witness but not witness.yao, xn-delegate?Code: [Select]Recent activity (export to .csv)
OPERATION INFO
TRANSFER
delegate.btsnow sent 35,999 BTS to btsnow
last year - 42.10936 BTS
CREATE WITNESS
delegate.btsnow was upgraded to become a witness
last year - 5,000 BTS
CLAIM BALANCE
delegate.btsnow claimed a balance of 1.52398 BTS
last year - 0 BTS
CLAIM BALANCE
delegate.btsnow claimed a balance of 41,039.91616 BTS
last year - 0 BTS
Agreed. Price feeds are what makes settlements and margin calls work as intended.
I will take down my votes from lazy witnesses when i am back at the office next year.
I will alao work on a tool that makes it easier for witbesses to provide manual feeds ... but for now, i am on vacation :)
Witness.yao (http://cryptofresh.com/u/witness.yao) on standby!
I need your vote, thx.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,23628.0.html (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,23628.0.html)
I doubt there are more person who want to join.How about chainsquad.com?
I'm very surprised even business team such as openledger or blockpay don't interested in these things.
no vote proxy, no community, no witness.
we have
* a proxy (me)
* a committee member (me)
* a worker (multisig)
* a bitshares webpage
* a faucet
* plenty of code written for the public
* still no witness .. for a single reason: more conflicting interests.
the question is who is delegate.btsnow and why do you support him even he never publish one price feed?Missed that .. not publishing feeds is a no go .. thanks for letting me know
but you vote for roadscape and delegate-clayop, no price feed from them too.the question is who is delegate.btsnow and why do you support him even he never publish one price feed?Missed that .. not publishing feeds is a no go .. thanks for letting me know
喂价 – BITCNY/BTS 汇率 – BITCNY/BTS 维持保证金比例 强制平仓比例上限 发布人 发布时间
0.02410173 0.02537054 175% 110% datasecuritynode 1分钟前
0.0261194 0.02749411 175% 110% rnglab 15分钟前
0.02638632 0.02777535 175% 110% in.abit 17分钟前
0.02633984 0.02772748 175% 110% xman 20分钟前
0.02633984 0.02772748 175% 110% abc123 22分钟前
0.0264 0.02778947 175% 110% bhuz 24分钟前
0.02633984 0.02772748 175% 110% fox 26分钟前
0.026085 0.02745789 175% 110% wackou 28分钟前
0.026 0.02736842 175% 110% delegate.ihashfury 29分钟前
0.0260845 0.02745737 175% 110% verbaltech2 48分钟前
0.02611154 0.02637266 175% 110% witness.yao 2小时前
0.02610618 0.02636724 175% 110% delegate.baozi 2小时前
0.02611425 0.02637539 175% 110% jerryliu 2小时前
0.026058 0.02631858 175% 110% delegate.freedom 2小时前
0.025957 0.02621657 175% 110% xn-delegate 6小时前
0.0262398 0.0265022 175% 110% elmato 7小时前
0.02620277 0.0264648 175% 110% xeldal 8小时前
0.02620613 0.0264682 175% 110% witness.still 8小时前
0.02624258 0.026505 175% 110% harvey-xts 22小时前
0.0265 0.02789474 175% 110% spartako 22小时前
but you vote for roadscape and delegate-clayop, no price feed from them too.the question is who is delegate.btsnow and why do you support him even he never publish one price feed?Missed that .. not publishing feeds is a no go .. thanks for letting me know
you vote for datesecuritynode who always publish a price more lower than others, others's feed is 0.0261 CNY/BTS, his is 0.024CNY/BTS now
it's really a question: what's the guideline??Quote喂价 – BITCNY/BTS 汇率 – BITCNY/BTS 维持保证金比例 强制平仓比例上限 发布人 发布时间
0.02410173 0.02537054 175% 110% datasecuritynode 1分钟前
0.0261194 0.02749411 175% 110% rnglab 15分钟前
0.02638632 0.02777535 175% 110% in.abit 17分钟前
0.02633984 0.02772748 175% 110% xman 20分钟前
0.02633984 0.02772748 175% 110% abc123 22分钟前
0.0264 0.02778947 175% 110% bhuz 24分钟前
0.02633984 0.02772748 175% 110% fox 26分钟前
0.026085 0.02745789 175% 110% wackou 28分钟前
0.026 0.02736842 175% 110% delegate.ihashfury 29分钟前
0.0260845 0.02745737 175% 110% verbaltech2 48分钟前
0.02611154 0.02637266 175% 110% witness.yao 2小时前
0.02610618 0.02636724 175% 110% delegate.baozi 2小时前
0.02611425 0.02637539 175% 110% jerryliu 2小时前
0.026058 0.02631858 175% 110% delegate.freedom 2小时前
0.025957 0.02621657 175% 110% xn-delegate 6小时前
0.0262398 0.0265022 175% 110% elmato 7小时前
0.02620277 0.0264648 175% 110% xeldal 8小时前
0.02620613 0.0264682 175% 110% witness.still 8小时前
0.02624258 0.026505 175% 110% harvey-xts 22小时前
0.0265 0.02789474 175% 110% spartako 22小时前
喂价 – BITCNY/BTS 汇率 – BITCNY/BTS 维持保证金比例 强制平仓比例上限 发布人 发布时间
0.02474438 0.02604675 175% 110% xman 6分钟前
0.02474406 0.02604662 175% 110% abc123 8分钟前
0.0228698 0.02407373 175% 110% datasecuritynode 10分钟前
0.025023 0.02634 175% 110% verbaltech2 10分钟前
0.02457212 0.02586595 175% 110% delegate.ihashfury 22分钟前
0.025023 0.02634 175% 110% wackou 52分钟前
0.024442 0.02468642 175% 110% xn-delegate 2小时前
0.0250837 0.02640405 175% 110% in.abit 2小时前
0.02457916 0.02482495 175% 110% harvey-xts 2小时前
0.0251 0.02642105 175% 110% bhuz 2小时前
0.02511595 0.02643786 175% 110% rnglab 2小时前
0.024341 0.02458441 175% 110% xeldal 2小时前
0.02460977 0.02485587 175% 110% delegate.baozi 3小时前
0.02464999 0.02489649 175% 110% jerryliu 3小时前
0.02465878 0.02490537 175% 110% witness.yao 3小时前
0.024 0.0252738 175% 110% roadscape 4小时前
0.024745 0.02499245 175% 110% delegate.freedom 5小时前
0.02634532 0.02773213 175% 110% fox 7小时前
0.0262398 0.0265022 175% 110% elmato 19小时前
0.02620613 0.0264682 175% 110% witness.still 20小时前
currently price
polo: 294 sat/BTS 1196 USDT/BTC
btc38: 0.0248 CNY/BTS
look at the feed price, from 0.0228 to 0.0263
I suggest you fire these witness unless they give the reason and tell us how they will fix it:
delegate.clayop, datasecuritynode, fox, elmato, witness.stillQuote喂价 – BITCNY/BTS 汇率 – BITCNY/BTS 维持保证金比例 强制平仓比例上限 发布人 发布时间
0.02474438 0.02604675 175% 110% xman 6分钟前
0.02474406 0.02604662 175% 110% abc123 8分钟前
0.0228698 0.02407373 175% 110% datasecuritynode 10分钟前
0.025023 0.02634 175% 110% verbaltech2 10分钟前
0.02457212 0.02586595 175% 110% delegate.ihashfury 22分钟前
0.025023 0.02634 175% 110% wackou 52分钟前
0.024442 0.02468642 175% 110% xn-delegate 2小时前
0.0250837 0.02640405 175% 110% in.abit 2小时前
0.02457916 0.02482495 175% 110% harvey-xts 2小时前
0.0251 0.02642105 175% 110% bhuz 2小时前
0.02511595 0.02643786 175% 110% rnglab 2小时前
0.024341 0.02458441 175% 110% xeldal 2小时前
0.02460977 0.02485587 175% 110% delegate.baozi 3小时前
0.02464999 0.02489649 175% 110% jerryliu 3小时前
0.02465878 0.02490537 175% 110% witness.yao 3小时前
0.024 0.0252738 175% 110% roadscape 4小时前
0.024745 0.02499245 175% 110% delegate.freedom 5小时前
0.02634532 0.02773213 175% 110% fox 7小时前
0.0262398 0.0265022 175% 110% elmato 19小时前
0.02620613 0.0264682 175% 110% witness.still 20小时前
the feed price is used for margin call and settle, it's about money for the traders.
you can publish any price you think reasonable, and everybody have a judgement if it's reasonable
you really should not follow my suggest without your thought. if you follow me without your thought, you are untrusted to be a witness.
and anybody else should vote for you if they think your price is acceptable of course.
but the problem is anybody must choose one between 0.024 and 0.026, not both. or the MPA have no meaning.
alt - fire this guy he isn't following everyone else and doing what I wantthis is what I said or this is what you thought I have said?
alt - you should not be trusted for following everyone else and doing what I want
Raise reward, witnesses get even more to dump, price hits 100, raise again, witnesses dump more, price hits 50. :D
0.0246984 0.02599832 175% 110% verbaltech2 3分钟前
0.02454205 0.02454205 175% 110% delegate-clayop 12分钟前
0.02469839 0.026 175% 110% datasecuritynode 36分钟前
0.0247 0.026 175% 110% bhuz 41分钟前
0.0246984 0.02599832 175% 110% wackou 45分钟前
0.02469839 0.026 175% 110% xman 46分钟前
0.02469836 0.02599845 175% 110% in.abit 50分钟前
0.02469836 0.02599845 175% 110% abc123 50分钟前
0.02469836 0.02599845 175% 110% rnglab 51分钟前
0.02469836 0.02599845 175% 110% fox 51分钟前
0.0247928 0.02504073 175% 110% jerryliu 1小时前
0.02477613 0.02502389 175% 110% witness.yao 1小时前
0.02474674 0.02499421 175% 110% delegate.baozi 1小时前
0.0247 0.026 175% 110% delegate.ihashfury 2小时前
0.024543 0.02478843 175% 110% xn-delegate 3小时前
0.0246777 0.02492447 175% 110% harvey-xts 3小时前
0.02463869 0.02488508 175% 110% delegate.freedom 4小时前
0.0245667 0.02481237 175% 110% witness.still 4小时前
0.0246 0.02589474 175% 110% roadscape 5小时前
0.0262398 0.0265022 175% 110% elmato 12小时前
0.024341 0.02458441 175% 110% xeldal 19小时前
喂价 – BITUSD/BTS 汇率 – BITUSD/BTS 维持保证金比例 强制平仓比例上限 发布人 发布时间
0.00354432 0.00354432 175% 110% delegate-clayop 1分钟前
0.00356257 0.00359819 175% 110% jerryliu 2分钟前
0.00349436 0.00367827 175% 110% in.abit 7分钟前
0.00356528 0.00360093 175% 110% witness.still 12分钟前
0.0035662 0.00360186 175% 110% xn-delegate 21分钟前
0.0034786 0.00366172 175% 110% bhuz 30分钟前
0.0035389 0.00372516 175% 110% wackou 32分钟前
0.00346558 0.00364798 175% 110% delegate.ihashfury 35分钟前
0.00354431 0.00373088 175% 110% fox 51分钟前
0.00347002 0.00365267 175% 110% rnglab 51分钟前
0.00346825 0.00365082 175% 110% datasecuritynode 52分钟前
0.00350679 0.0036914 175% 110% xman 54分钟前
0.00358092 0.00376939 175% 110% verbaltech2 55分钟前
0.00352871 0.00371446 175% 110% roadscape 56分钟前
0.00352926 0.00371502 175% 110% abc123 58分钟前
0.00358582 0.00362168 175% 110% witness.yao 1小时前
0.00365685 0.00369342 175% 110% xeldal 17小时前
0.00391769 0.00395687 175% 110% elmato 21小时前
0.00358828 0.00362416 175% 110% delegate.baozi 23小时前
0.00358621 0.00362207 175% 110% harvey-xts 23小时前
0.00358608 0.00362194 175% 110% delegate.freedom 23小时前
喂价 – BITEUR/BTS 汇率 – BITEUR/BTS 维持保证金比例 强制平仓比例上限 发布人 发布时间
0.00332914 0.00350436 175% 110% verbaltech2 51秒钟前
0.00334939 0.00334939 175% 110% delegate-clayop 3分钟前
0.00336427 0.00339793 175% 110% harvey-xts 7分钟前
0.00336914 0.00340283 175% 110% xn-delegate 23分钟前
0.00328695 0.00346021 175% 110% bhuz 32分钟前
0.00334346 0.00351943 175% 110% wackou 33分钟前
0.00326772 0.00343973 175% 110% delegate.ihashfury 37分钟前
0.00334011 0.00351597 175% 110% fox 52分钟前
0.00326953 0.00344169 175% 110% rnglab 53分钟前
0.00327968 0.00345232 175% 110% datasecuritynode 54分钟前
0.00331045 0.00348473 175% 110% in.abit 55分钟前
0.00330968 0.00348394 175% 110% xman 56分钟前
0.00333177 0.00350716 175% 110% abc123 1小时前
0.00338753 0.0034214 175% 110% witness.yao 12小时前
0.00344885 0.00348334 175% 110% xeldal 18小时前
0.00370241 0.00373944 175% 110% elmato 21小时前
0.0033794 0.00341319 175% 110% delegate.baozi 23小时前
0.00337733 0.0034111 175% 110% delegate.freedom 23小时前
0.00337077 0.00340448 175% 110% witness.still 23小时前
@ElMato can you check? it seems your feeding price in bitCNY is much higher than the real market price.
@ElMato can you check? it seems your feeding price in bitCNY is much higher than the real market price.
It seems that i'm having problems getting prices from btc38/okcoin/huboi
Error fetching book from btc38!
Error fetching ticker from okcoin cn!
Error fetching ticker from huobi!
SETTLEMENT PRICE – BITCNY/BTS CER – BITCNY/BTS MCR MSSR PUBLISHER PUBLISHED
0.02537498 0.02537498 175% 110% delegate-clayop 44 seconds ago
0.0259 0.02726316 175% 110% bhuz 44 seconds ago
0.02565747 0.02700878 175% 110% delegate.ihashfury 4 minutes ago
0.02570694 0.02596407 175% 110% delegate.baozi 4 minutes ago
0.0258966 0.02725984 175% 110% in.abit 6 minutes ago
0.0258966 0.02725971 175% 110% fox 11 minutes ago
0.0258966 0.02725971 175% 110% xman 13 minutes ago
0.0258966 0.02725971 175% 110% datasecuritynode 15 minutes ago
0.0258966 0.02725971 175% 110% abc123 16 minutes ago
0.0258966 0.02725971 175% 110% rnglab 20 minutes ago
0.0257013 0.027054 175% 110% wackou 31 minutes ago
0.0257512 0.02710653 175% 110% verbaltech2 52 minutes ago
0.026 0.02736842 175% 110% roadscape 54 minutes ago
0.02569912 0.02595611 175% 110% jerryliu 1 hour ago
0.02568869 0.02594558 175% 110% witness.yao 1 hour ago
0.02568308 0.02593991 175% 110% delegate.freedom 1 hour ago
0.0259142 0.02617332 175% 110% xn-delegate 1 hour ago
0.02559645 0.02585241 175% 110% witness.still 1 hour ago
0.02552013 0.02577533 175% 110% harvey-xts 2 hours ago
0.024846 0.02509446 175% 110% elmato 3 hours ago
0.024341 0.02458441 175% 110% xeldal 9 hours ago
@Xeldal seems your witness provide obviously lower price for CNY/BTS for long time, can you check that?
I unvoted the witness and will revote when the feeding price be ok.
would you like to explain to your supporter why you react so late?+5%@ElMato can you check? it seems your feeding price in bitCNY is much higher than the real market price.
It seems that i'm having problems getting prices from btc38/okcoin/huboi
Error fetching book from btc38!
Error fetching ticker from okcoin cn!
Error fetching ticker from huobi!
last CNY feed price from xman is one day ago11 days?? Far too long
from fox is two days ago
from public-witness-one is two days ago
from elmato is 11 days ago
last CNY feed price from xman is one day ago
from fox is two days ago
from public-witness-one is two days ago
from elmato is 11 days agoox
oh, as the NO.1,But I'm wise enough to know that xeroc is smarter than me.
you even don't have the ability to vote by yourself, that's really sadly
Donald Trump doesn't fly Air Force One either.
:)
0.0334629 0.03522427 175% 110% xman 14秒钟前
0.03375834 0.03553529 175% 110% abc123 9分钟前
0.03375822 0.03553704 175% 110% rnglab 13分钟前
0.03379955 0.03557864 175% 110% public-witness-one 16分钟前
0.03375964 0.03553652 175% 110% datasecuritynode 17分钟前
0.0336 0.0353714 175% 110% bhuz 22分钟前
0.0338089 0.03558832 175% 110% wackou 24分钟前
0.0326 0.03431579 175% 110% delegate.ihashfury 27分钟前
0.0338578 0.03563979 175% 110% verbaltech2 48分钟前
0.03287343 0.03320216 175% 110% xn-delegate 49分钟前
0.03252238 0.03252238 175% 110% delegate-clayop 53分钟前
0.03385834 0.03564041 175% 110% in.abit 1小时前
0.03295587 0.03328542 175% 110% xeldal 1小时前
0.03318888 0.03352077 175% 110% witness.still 4小时前
0.03312741 0.03345868 175% 110% witness.yao 4小时前
0.03309281 0.03342373 175% 110% delegate.baozi 4小时前
0.03309697 0.03342793 175% 110% delegate.freedom 4小时前
0.03311998 0.03345118 175% 110% jerryliu 4小时前
0.0314 0.03305263 175% 110% roadscape 10小时前
0.03270754 0.03303461 175% 110% harvey-xts 12小时前
Dear Alt, I've stopped feeding prices on purpose and started to write my own feed script, but its taking me longer so i will fallback to xeroc script with abit patchIs this an acceptable excuse?
Dear Alt, I've stopped feeding prices on purpose and started to write my own feed script, but its taking me longer so i will fallback to xeroc script with abit patchI'm reviewing the patch. I think it has some issues.
Dear Alt, I've stopped feeding prices on purpose and started to write my own feed script, but its taking me longer so i will fallback to xeroc script with abit patchElmato, I am sorry I am so mean like this, but this is what witness need to do.
0.03846532 0.04049002 175% 110% xman 2分钟前
0.03834898 0.03873246 175% 110% xeldal 3分钟前
0.03817109 0.04018045 175% 110% datasecuritynode 6分钟前
0.03817109 0.04018045 175% 110% in.abit 7分钟前
0.038566 0.04059579 175% 110% verbaltech2 11分钟前
0.03846607 0.04049085 175% 110% abc123 12分钟前
0.04002791 0.04002791 175% 110% delegate-clayop 15分钟前
0.0385 0.04052632 175% 110% bhuz 15分钟前
0.0384627 0.03884733 175% 110% delegate.freedom 16分钟前
0.03875256 0.04079261 175% 110% delegate.ihashfury 19分钟前
0.03846781 0.04049278 175% 110% rnglab 25分钟前
0.03859566 0.03898162 175% 110% harvey-xts 45分钟前
0.03859371 0.03897964 175% 110% jerryliu 47分钟前
0.03864139 0.03902781 175% 110% delegate.baozi 50分钟前
0.0388623 0.04090768 175% 110% wackou 50分钟前
0.042 0.04421053 175% 110% roadscape 3小时前
0.03904159 0.039432 175% 110% xn-delegate 3小时前
0.03870454 0.03909159 175% 110% witness.yao 4小时前
0.03869559 0.03908255 175% 110% witness.still 4小时前
@alt I have reconfigured my script to publish accurately and timely once again. Respectfully requesting your support.voted, thanks.
Best,
Fox
TRANSFER
delegate-clayop sent 130,000 BTS to poloniexwallet
8 days ago
WITHDRAW VESTING BALANCE
delegate-clayop withdrew vesting balance of 134,094 BTS
8 days ago
WITHDRAW VESTING BALANCE
delegate-clayop withdrew vesting balance of 1,281.92893 BTS
8 days ago
PUBLISH FEED
delegate-clayop published feed price of 0.00859566 bitUSD/BTS
12 days ago