Have a great vacation! You've done fantastic work these last few weeks!

So much going on in marketing right now and I see LiteCoin looks like it's dipping below a $100 million and looking vulnerable.

I hope we can get the NullStreet guys a decent budget ASAP & let us see what they're capable of with some decent funds in the next few months.

Quote from: Thom on December 17, 2014, 07:32:57 pm

What other people do with the tools you create is their responsibility, not the one who creates the tools; tools may be used for both good and evil. It is the intent of the one wielding the tool who is liable for their own actions.

I fail to see how Oppenheimer's "tool" could be used for anything but mass murder. It's a long way from Einstein over knife makers and gunsmiths to Oppenheimer.

Obviously. If all of us had a button we could push at will and destroy the rest of humanity, we'd all be dead.

Good poem. Nelson Mandela's favourite.

I see Paco Rabanne was so inspired by BitShares they decided to name a new male fragrance after you guys... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8lxGGx0R04   

Quote from: jsidhu on December 16, 2014, 02:33:07 pm

Quote from: vlight on December 16, 2014, 11:56:27 am

So all those smart people at Ripple forums who said that Ripple is the next big thing were right after all... so much for it being centralized to fail...

Price rallies and its next big thing?? really?

Yes, thats how it works.

*Looks at price*

Yeah, its up 20% again.  Not only that, but every other crypto is getting destroyed today.
Ripple's real supply is 100B XRP, which means ripple is already at 40% of bitcoin right now.
No other alt has gotten anywhere near that close. 


Every time BTS goes up, it follows with a 100% retracement in a slow bleed over the following week, and then a big dump back to the bottom. 
Every time XRP goes up...it goes up again the next day, and the next. 

Ripple is in a bull market and pretty much every other crypto is stuck in the bear.

Too bad we didnt have marketing these past 3 months.

Yeah it's the number 2 effect, it gives you a big spotlight and a lot of attention. You become hard to ignore when Bitcoin is in a bear market. The value of any positive news they release is amplified ten fold. I actually think the marketing team did understand the power of getting to number two. Unfortunately the merger was the minority fork from a CAP perspective and now we have to get our CAP up the hard way. I'm not sold on the Ripple business model so I wouldn't be surprised to see them crash still.

I remember the days that I had a lot of XRPs bought @ $0.003 and sold them all @ 0.005 to buy BTS @ market cap $65 mil if I remember correctly...
I never thought XRP would be $0.02 again and I never thought to see BTS market cap @ $40 mil ever again...
That was another smart trading experience of mf-tzo...Well done to XRP!!

It was a smart trading move at the time, BTSX was in a position to leave Ripple in its dust imo.

We had $4 million + trading days at times. The money is out there when the market believes you get it right. We just have to prove to them the merits of BTS.

Quote from: Troglodactyl on December 16, 2014, 01:00:30 am

Also, everyone please bear in mind that agreements already made with Brian Page are effectively a sunk cost. 

Yes, this is important. 

The other important thing to remember is that bitshares can still be very successful even if the value we get out of this sunk cost ends up being zero, because there are now a number of initiatives that are in progress, and some of them will likely succeed.

I'd like to see Nullstreet given a decent marketing budget and incentives. Personally, I'd also like to retain the services of MethodX and he would be my choice for Western marketing director.

This could be done with a 50% re-allocation of the resources that were given to Brian to do the job, but getting 10, 100% paid delegates would be a tougher ask. There's also the psychological problem that a few people will be busting their arse to get BitShares Western marketing to the level it should be, but it will be the person who was ineffective at their job that will reap the big bonuses for the community marketing team's and a few key people's hard work.

 

Quote from: Empirical1.1 on December 15, 2014, 12:45:24 am

Quote from: NewMine on December 14, 2014, 07:59:26 pm

All I know is, the Ron Paul, Alex Jones crowd as it seems Bytemaster and FMV are going to pander to will NOT get mass adoption but it will get you a one way ticket to the conspiracy nut job bin the masses will toss you in.  The "9-11 inside job" crowd aka Alex Jones followers, are the worst people you could possibly want to associate with. And the Right Wing quasi Libertarian folk would more likely bend to the idea of a bitUSD campaign.

I think you must be an accountant in real life as you are forensic with the financials which I like.

I disagree with you on most marketing stuff though. Appealing to the Ron Paul or Alex Jones crowd would be fantastic and wouldn't alienate you from other markets, despite Alex Jones being pretty out there. It would just be a platform to advertise BitShares to a big audience who may in turn spread it to others who are looking for the advantages it offers.

However it's actually BitAssets which disposess the banks and are out of the control of over reaching governments that will grab the alternative media's attention as they grow and become more consumer friendly. While VOTE will be a nice additional talking point, ironically it will only actually be by driving mass adoption of BitAssets, that VOTE will gain enough of a user base to attract any interest, warrant media attention or have the opportunity to be taken seriously as a potential, disruptive voting alternative, not the other way around.

No man.  The Alex Jones and Ron Paul crowd believe in hard money and gold, they dont believe in technology or ways to buy gold cheaply.  The spread is not wide enough, they want physical gold.

I was in gold in 2007 and made money, I had physical gold, thats where its at.  I WOULD NEVER buy bitGOLD as I wanted physical and most people do.

Yes there's many 'Go phyzz or go home' guys among them. But you, me and many of the crypto-currency crowd actually come from that kind of background as we're looking for credible alternatives to the flawed and corrupt financial and banking system. (45% of Bitcoin users are 'Libertarian', I.e Ron Paul Crowd - http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4874727 )