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Title: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: bluebit on January 16, 2015, 02:42:14 am
Apparently, this guy has been making predictions that have come true like he knew about the Bitstamp hack before it happened. Bitcoin price could skyrocket tomorrow which means Bitshares will go up as well.

See this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=924474.0
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: roadscape on January 16, 2015, 02:55:20 am
I think it's one of three potential ruses:

 - Create buzz around the conference
 - To take credit for something that turns out to be newsworthy at the conference
 - Or maybe he just enjoys watching people freak out?
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: islandking on January 16, 2015, 02:56:32 am
Don't bank on this guys information being correct.
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: xeroc on January 16, 2015, 07:25:18 am
Only Chuck Norris knows the future like it was yesterday
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: fuzzy on January 16, 2015, 07:33:17 am
Only Chuck Norris knows the future like it was yesterday

Chuck Norris builds the future before it happens. 
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: liondani on January 16, 2015, 09:42:12 am
Only Chuck Norris knows the future like it was yesterday

Chuck Norris builds the future before it happens.

He has already 101 chuck.delegates voted in but we don't know it yet, because we are still assuming we are on the right fork...
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: cass on January 16, 2015, 09:45:29 am
(http://i.imgur.com/HKm7LS6.png)

Only Chuck Norris knows the future like it was yesterday

Chuck Norris builds the future before it happens.

He has already 101 chuck.delegates voted in but we don't know it yet, because we are still assuming we are on the right fork...

LOL  +5%
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: graffenwalder on January 16, 2015, 10:30:37 am
Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:
Quote
@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: xeroc on January 16, 2015, 11:03:15 am
Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:
Quote
@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long
Oh ... that changes the perspective completely ... i trust that guy
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: Empirical1.1 on January 16, 2015, 11:25:21 am
Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:
Quote
@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long
Oh ... that changes the perspective completely ... i trust that guy

From what I've seen of him, I don't think it's psychologically plausible that he'd falsely pump/bluff that there is market moving news coming. My only concern is that he's more technology than market minded so it's possible he could misinterpret the impact 'X' news will have.

So I'm inclined to think there is reasonably significant news coming.
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: merlin0113 on January 16, 2015, 11:30:45 am
Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:
Quote
@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long

CH's account has been deleted from this forum. I noticed this several days ago. I like him actually.
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: Empirical1.1 on January 16, 2015, 11:37:14 am
Probably the Bitcoin ETF thing or secondmarkets investment trust thing
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: CLains on January 16, 2015, 11:56:45 am
Probably the Bitcoin ETF thing or secondmarkets investment trust thing

I bet on this. Hopefully something like that..

*Bracing for impact.*
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: graffenwalder on January 16, 2015, 11:59:26 am
Probably the Bitcoin ETF thing or secondmarkets investment trust thing

I bet on this. Hopefully something like that..

*Bracing for impact.*
It seems that Adam guy and Charles are on other sides. Adam said watch ok coin, which has some big dumps at the moment. And Charles says to go long
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: inarizushi on January 16, 2015, 12:19:05 pm
I really hope a good news is coming, because on the bad news side... : http://www.coindesk.com/research-hackers-install-backdoor-bitcoin-cold-storage/

Can someone evaluate the significance of this ? That doesn't smell good...
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: xeroc on January 16, 2015, 12:21:56 pm
I really hope a good news is coming, because on the bad news side... : http://www.coindesk.com/research-hackers-install-backdoor-bitcoin-cold-storage/

Can someone evaluate the significance of this ? That doesn't smell good...
FUD news ... old issue ..

from #bitcoin

Quote
12:49:11 |  op_mul> coindesk is pushing more nonsense about ECDSA flaws
12:49:30 |  op_mul> "Each time a bitcoin transaction is signed, the signature is generated partly from a random number known as 'k'. The compromised ECDSA uses a specific formula to select 'k' .."
12:49:35 |  op_mul> no fucking shit.
12:50:26 |  Anduck> so.. nothing new there?
12:50:36 |  op_mul> nothing new at all.
12:50:40 |  Anduck> also can't you do the k-pickin in a deterministic way?
12:51:19 |  op_mul> you can, but with bitcoin's ECDSA you can't prove it was picked deterministically without the private key.
12:51:53 |  Anduck> so re-using 'k' is impossible if done right
12:52:06 |  op_mul> improbable.
12:52:36 |  op_mul> there's ~2^128 possible nonces. if you've made the same one twice you've got bigger problems than signatures.
12:53:21 |  op_mul> ie, you used the same RNG to make the private key in the first place.
12:55:15 |  wumpus> an ecdsa *implementation* flaw
12:56:18 |  op_mul> wumpus: point was it's being presented as some new wild attack.
12:56:26 |  wumpus> but yes, old well-known problem
12:56:38 |  wumpus> recycling old problems is very much like FUD
12:56:48 |  op_mul> I'm aware of at least one claimed attack where it has actually been used, though I wasn't able to confirm it.
12:57:48 |  wumpus> broken wallet impementations that reused nonces, sure, I don't know of any cases where it was done intentionally
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: inarizushi on January 16, 2015, 12:30:20 pm
I really hope a good news is coming, because on the bad news side... : http://www.coindesk.com/research-hackers-install-backdoor-bitcoin-cold-storage/

Can someone evaluate the significance of this ? That doesn't smell good...
FUD news ... old issue ..

from #bitcoin

Quote
12:49:11 |  op_mul> coindesk is pushing more nonsense about ECDSA flaws
12:49:30 |  op_mul> "Each time a bitcoin transaction is signed, the signature is generated partly from a random number known as 'k'. The compromised ECDSA uses a specific formula to select 'k' .."
12:49:35 |  op_mul> no fucking shit.
12:50:26 |  Anduck> so.. nothing new there?
12:50:36 |  op_mul> nothing new at all.
12:50:40 |  Anduck> also can't you do the k-pickin in a deterministic way?
12:51:19 |  op_mul> you can, but with bitcoin's ECDSA you can't prove it was picked deterministically without the private key.
12:51:53 |  Anduck> so re-using 'k' is impossible if done right
12:52:06 |  op_mul> improbable.
12:52:36 |  op_mul> there's ~2^128 possible nonces. if you've made the same one twice you've got bigger problems than signatures.
12:53:21 |  op_mul> ie, you used the same RNG to make the private key in the first place.
12:55:15 |  wumpus> an ecdsa *implementation* flaw
12:56:18 |  op_mul> wumpus: point was it's being presented as some new wild attack.
12:56:26 |  wumpus> but yes, old well-known problem
12:56:38 |  wumpus> recycling old problems is very much like FUD
12:56:48 |  op_mul> I'm aware of at least one claimed attack where it has actually been used, though I wasn't able to confirm it.
12:57:48 |  wumpus> broken wallet impementations that reused nonces, sure, I don't know of any cases where it was done intentionally

Thanks xeroc, I'm glad to hear that
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: cass on January 16, 2015, 01:45:09 pm
Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:
Quote
@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long

CH's account has been deleted from this forum. I noticed this several days ago. I like him actually.

why this ? Any news? Pity IMO
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: vlight on January 16, 2015, 02:22:49 pm
Where are all the leaks when you need them ?  :D
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: toast on January 16, 2015, 04:34:13 pm
Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:
Quote
@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long

CH's account has been deleted from this forum. I noticed this several days ago. I like him actually.

why this ? Any news? Pity IMO

I think he ragequit. The thread about testing / dev process is where he declared that he's out
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: jsidhu on January 16, 2015, 05:44:24 pm
good news happened already with swiss bank move
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: Thom on January 16, 2015, 06:23:44 pm
Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:
Quote
@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long

CH's account has been deleted from this forum. I noticed this several days ago. I like him actually.

why this ? Any news? Pity IMO

Yeah, I was watching when he did. Fuzz noticed he deleted his own account minutes after posting his last.
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: fuzzy on January 16, 2015, 06:40:54 pm
Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:
Quote
@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long

CH's account has been deleted from this forum. I noticed this several days ago. I like him actually.

why this ? Any news? Pity IMO

Yeah, I was watching when he did. Fuzz noticed he deleted his own account minutes after posting his last.

Don't worry.  Charles is still frequenting the forums.  Just not likely under his name :)
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: cass on January 18, 2015, 01:25:08 pm
Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:
Quote
@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long

CH's account has been deleted from this forum. I noticed this several days ago. I like him actually.

why this ? Any news? Pity IMO

Yeah, I was watching when he did. Fuzz noticed he deleted his own account minutes after posting his last.

Don't worry.  Charles is still frequenting the forums.  Just not likely under his name :)

yup guess so also :)
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: fuzzy on January 18, 2015, 02:48:53 pm
Last tweet from someone we all know, Charles Hoskinson

2hours ago:
Quote
@nprojectcharles: Major bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long

CH's account has been deleted from this forum. I noticed this several days ago. I like him actually.

why this ? Any news? Pity IMO

Yeah, I was watching when he did. Fuzz noticed he deleted his own account minutes after posting his last.

Don't worry.  Charles is still frequenting the forums.  Just not likely under his name :)

yup guess so also :)

The dude abides, cass, the dude abides.
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: donkeypong on January 18, 2015, 06:34:59 pm
We'll know him when we see him. True to pattern, he'll remind us that HE started and built BitShares, before someone else compromised it. Name dropping ensues, followed by a mention of Etherum's might. And then an opinion or two on what we should do next, which generally has some really abstract, experimental, no-value-added concept attached to it.

Believe it or not, I like him too.
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: fuzzy on January 19, 2015, 01:07:26 am
We'll know him when we see him. True to pattern, he'll remind us that HE started and built BitShares, before someone else compromised it. Name dropping ensues, followed by a mention of Etherum's might. And then an opinion or two on what we should do next, which generally has some really abstract, experimental, no-value-added concept attached to it.

Believe it or not, I like him too.

I have to admit I am harder on him than I like to be.  But I think Donkeypong is generally on point here. 
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: fluxer555 on January 19, 2015, 03:24:00 am
So.. was there any big news?
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: toast on January 19, 2015, 03:42:41 am
So.. was there any big news?

No, the tweeter followed up with a video mocking the people who believed him. Don't remember his twitter unfortunately.
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: fluxer555 on January 19, 2015, 05:59:28 am
So, Charles trolled us too?
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: toast on January 19, 2015, 06:06:10 am
So, Charles trolled us too?

Link?
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: cube on January 19, 2015, 06:44:57 am
So.. was there any big news?

No, the tweeter followed up with a video mocking the people who believed him. Don't remember his twitter unfortunately.

Yes, he made a video out of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoUTuM5WC2c&feature=youtu.be
and wanted his followers to know this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=924474.msg10181739#msg10181739

BTC had a good run.
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: bobmaloney on January 19, 2015, 06:54:06 am
So, Charles trolled us too?

Link?

https://twitter.com/nprojectcharles/status/555994779347984384
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on January 19, 2015, 07:51:34 am
Rotten from inside.
Sad.
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: xeroc on January 19, 2015, 08:42:45 am
Rotten from inside.
Sad.
The people you can trust in crypto are getting fewer and fewer :(
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on January 19, 2015, 08:51:24 am
I was writing from the mobile and it scrambles the text after a few words. I didn*t mean Charles with it, maybe he just forwarded someones words but people who have fun by makiing others disappointed.

Xeroc, you no more than me and I believe you because you are stable and not full of s like some people out there.

A little question: Bytemaster said that it would be very difficult to maintain several KeyIDs. My listener asked me why it is difficult, do you know?
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: xeroc on January 19, 2015, 10:42:15 am
A little question: Bytemaster said that it would be very difficult to maintain several KeyIDs. My listener asked me why it is difficult, do you know?
not 100% sure as the DNS features are not discussed alot atm .. assuming keyIDs are "domains" in the BitShares DNS space .. there will be an auctioning style purchase to elaborate the "real" value of a "domain" .. also there was a discussion about if a "domain" can be expanded for a new lease of if it has to go through an auction again after a max-use time ...
not sure if the docs at
https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/wiki/DNS-.p2p-Auction-Specification
are still valid ..

also read through
http://www.indolering.com/universal-p2p-resolution
.. not sure if it answers your question as I didn't manage to read all of it yet :(
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: Empirical1.1 on January 19, 2015, 11:00:00 am
So, Charles trolled us too?

Link?

https://twitter.com/nprojectcharles/status/555994779347984384

Disappointing.
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: nomoreheroes7 on January 19, 2015, 11:29:43 am
Charles wasn't trolling, check out his updated response:

https://twitter.com/nprojectcharles/status/556305652281139202
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: Empirical1.1 on January 19, 2015, 12:30:02 pm
Charles wasn't trolling, check out his updated response:

https://twitter.com/nprojectcharles/status/556305652281139202

'Major Bitcoin news coming very soon. Hope you're long. '

Imo. Major News/Very soon/be Long and just before Miami - meant imminent market moving news.

Deferring to tech coming out and saying lets see how the next three months play out, is completely different to that imo.



Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: donkeypong on January 19, 2015, 04:25:45 pm
Please close this thread. It's idiotic.
Title: Re: Rumor Has It - Big News Coming Out Tomorrow at BTC Miami
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on January 20, 2015, 09:28:06 pm
Thanks xerox, I thought KeyID is something used for account names and that it would also be a KeyID for sending messages later.